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The liberal Afghan road map to blaming Trump

BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 5,357
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We have all seen and heard snippets from talking heads where they are testing the waters by attempting to blame Trump for this biden mess. They kept throwing rocks at the Trump dam looking for a weak spot, anything they could find to take the blame off of that fucking idiot biden and his giant mess. That fucking idiot biden lied and the left ignored it. The fix was in, they just didn't know how to shift it all onto Trump.

This article is a classic example of that attempt to shift blame. To bolster their claim that the fucking idiot biden did nothing wrong and everything right, they try the old "this is about ending a war, not about how biden did it". You have all heard the bullshit "everyone agrees that this war had to end" in their attempts to deflect.

What kind of a man takes no credit for his fuck ups? Our president biden. The corrupt pussy we all knew he was. A world wide confirmed embarrassment. According to this left wing msm nut job, nothing was biden's fault. Nothing that went wrong had anything to do with biden. What this is telling you is that rats will defend the indefensible. The power over people due to politics is more important that humanity itself.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/08/29/afghanistan-war-exit-joe-biden-critics-wrong/5639051001/

There's chaos and risk in Afghanistan exit, but Biden critics are getting it mostly wrong
We have no ongoing security interest in Afghanistan, and we don't send troops everywhere to protect women and human rights. We do that in other ways.

But some of the arguments we are hearing are indefensible. Among the worst:

1. Biden owns this.

No. The authors of 20 years of war own this. The corrupt Afghan government and the Afghan military who stood down own this. The Trump administration that set the deadlines, drew down the troops, left behind the materiel and released up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners owns this.

2. Well, at least he owns the chaos surrounding our exit.

No. There's no way that the Taliban regaining control would not have led to chaos with many thousands of Afghans seeking to escape the rule of a thug regime. Whenever we began to airlift folks out, it would have started.

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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,893
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    edited August 2021
    20 years of endless war can be blamed on at least four Presidents.

    Leaving behind $385 BILLION of arms, thousands of Americans (bullshit on less than 100) and allies is on one and one only POTUS.

    And his name is Cho Bai Den.

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,895
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    But he shipped out a shit ton of terrorists and future dem voters! Left behind allies and citizens.
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    20 years of endless war can be blamed on at least four Presidents.

    Leaving behind $385 BILLION of arms, thousands of Americans (bullshit on less than 100) and allies is on one and one only POTUS.

    And his name is Cho Bai Den.

    So the story goes, we picked Taliban leaders to trust. We left equipment, cash, support-not all Americans want to come home- to fight Isis. Taliban wants to legitimize. Taliban will use PR to make themselves and Biden look good in the near Term. Big guy lauded as a Hero. GOP and Trump stay fractured.

    Janet Reno.

    Profit.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    edited August 2021
    The Retired Generals have got the band back together. I'm old enough to remember when the media and the Biden voters hung on their every word of criticism of Trump

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    doogie said:

    20 years of endless war can be blamed on at least four Presidents.

    Leaving behind $385 BILLION of arms, thousands of Americans (bullshit on less than 100) and allies is on one and one only POTUS.

    And his name is Cho Bai Den.

    So the story goes, we picked Taliban leaders to trust. We left equipment, cash, support-not all Americans want to come home- to fight Isis. Taliban wants to legitimize. Taliban will use PR to make themselves and Biden look good in the near Term. Big guy lauded as a Hero. GOP and Trump stay fractured.

    Janet Reno.

    Profit.
    I think we left the shit there so the Taliban can blow up the Chi Coms when they come in to give it a go
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,978
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    China has paid off Pakistan already and supports them against India. Clear difference between USSR and the US wars is that there will be support from Pakistan. Uyghars are gonna man the mines like the Incas did for the Spanish. Taliban will guard the mines and wet their beaks.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    Bob_C said:

    China has paid off Pakistan already and supports them against India. Clear difference between USSR and the US wars is that there will be support from Pakistan. Uyghars are gonna man the mines like the Incas did for the Spanish. Taliban will guard the mines and wet their beaks.

    I really don't think so. China was be just as fucked as The US or USSSR

    The Taliban is tanned rested and well armed. They don't give a shit about geopolitical realities. They want pure Islam not pure communism.

    Ahmed don't need no smart phone or the minerals to build it

    Everyone goes in to the Afghanistan game expecting a nice scrimmage to get ready for the season.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,978
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    Maybe. The biggest issue with the US and USSR was their failures to get Pakistani border under control. Pakistan cares about India more than anything. We haven’t seen a version of this war where Pakistan was invested in not actively helping the Taliban to attack the imperialists.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    If some Taliban started working with China there would be splinter groups immediately attacking them

    Thanks to Joe they need a lot less support from Pakistan

    Afghanistan doesn't really do central government

    We'll see
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,476
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    If some Taliban started working with China there would be splinter groups immediately attacking them

    Thanks to Joe they need a lot less support from Pakistan

    Afghanistan doesn't really do central government

    We'll see

    China doesn't really do body counts, they'll play to win the game and not be deterred by the green hairs on tiktok.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,496
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    Doogles said:

    If some Taliban started working with China there would be splinter groups immediately attacking them

    Thanks to Joe they need a lot less support from Pakistan

    Afghanistan doesn't really do central government

    We'll see

    China doesn't really do body counts, they'll play to win the game and not be deterred by the green hairs on tiktok.
    The Russians dropped children's toys containing high explosives

    Tuff communists who would blow your kids up
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