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We have a DB Coach for an HC and can't recruit DBs

We have an LB coach for a DC and can't recruit LBs.

This whole time I've felt like Jimmy would be able keep the defense elite long term but I'm starting to have serious second thoughts about that.

Unless we? completely master the portal we are in serious trouble.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    Win 10 games and all the talent will be doing everything In their power to come here.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    That was blatant sarcasm. Uw won 10 games 3 years in a row and had an off year. The train should not have fallen off the rails in program perception. This staff sucks at everything off the field. On field is the most important and they may do fine there but roster holes will catch up with them.

    Glad it was a whoosh
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    And we have a coach who seems to believe his quickest route to the NFL is to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by winning with MWC level recruiting.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    Yeah, not great.

    And the portal talk is getting tiresome. You might be able to get a good QB occasionally from the portal, but most of those guys are transfers for a reason.

    If you're Oregon State, and can't get talent, using the portal is a legitimate strategy to build out your roster. If you're UW, its much easier to build a talented roster by putting more effort into recruiting. You also don't have to recruit poorly to use the portal, you will still have room for transfers if you recruit well!

    If our coaches strength is player development, you would think they would want players in the program to develop. The portal strategy is silly because you know who else tries to get talent from the portal? It’s the same schools that out recruit you right now.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Yeah, not great.

    And the portal talk is getting tiresome. You might be able to get a good QB occasionally from the portal, but most of those guys are transfers for a reason.

    If you're Oregon State, and can't get talent, using the portal is a legitimate strategy to build out your roster. If you're UW, its much easier to build a talented roster by putting more effort into recruiting. You also don't have to recruit poorly to use the portal, you will still have room for transfers if you recruit well!

    What????
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,304 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    We have a DB Coach for an HC and can't recruit DBs

    We have an LB coach for a DC and can't recruit LBs.

    This whole time I've felt like Jimmy would be able keep the defense elite long term but I'm starting to have serious second thoughts about that.

    Unless we? completely master the portal we are in serious trouble.


  • Bonedog
    Bonedog Member Posts: 650
    We suck until we don’t suck
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    Like a lot of people, I assumed Jimmy would recruit really well. I expected a Byron Murphy level recruit every year. I think we have 9 win Jimmy instead of Seven Win Sark. I suppose that's an improvement though.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    hardhat said:

    Like a lot of people, I assumed Jimmy would recruit really well. I expected a Byron Murphy level recruit every year. I think we have 9 win Jimmy instead of Seven Win Sark. I suppose that's an improvement though.

    Ehh I'm not confident we'll win 9 games even in this dreck conference. I expect the defense to take a step back without PK and the offense will suck as long as we run this antiquated system.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,793

    hardhat said:

    Like a lot of people, I assumed Jimmy would recruit really well. I expected a Byron Murphy level recruit every year. I think we have 9 win Jimmy instead of Seven Win Sark. I suppose that's an improvement though.

    Ehh I'm not confident we'll win 9 games even in this dreck conference. I expect the defense to take a step back without PK and the offense will suck as long as we run this antiquated system.
    Defense sucked last year against mediocre offenses and UW got some big, game-changing, turnovers that kept them in games.

    An athletic and talented offense would put 35 on UW no problem IMO. Need the offense to make major progress.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club

    We wont let you back on the bandwagon

    Likewise. You’re not allowed off. Choices have been made. lines have been drawn.


    Team Jimmy
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,553 Swaye's Wigwam

    And we have a coach who seems to believe his quickest route to the NFL is to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by winning with MWC level recruiting.

    Or is going to try and show the NFL how good he is at navigating the College Version of Free Agency with the transfer portal.

    The recruiting for this class is essentially over. We could go 12-0 and would be lucky to flip 1-2 guys max from other places.

    Through yesterday Jimmy has taken a total of 28 recruits +/-. Of them a quarter are reaches/fliers/diamonds in the rough.



  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,553 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    We have a DB Coach for an HC and can't recruit DBs

    We have an LB coach for a DC and can't recruit LBs.

    This whole time I've felt like Jimmy would be able keep the defense elite long term but I'm starting to have serious second thoughts about that.

    Unless we? completely master the portal we are in serious trouble.

    Here's all you need to know about the 3 (4 if you include Lake) guys responsible for DB recruiting.

    We took a kid for the 21 class a month ago who had NO current offers and a week later was enrolled at UW to start fall camp.

    Our OC can't recruit anyone.

    Our RB coach can't recruit anyone w/ said OC and Head Coach who want to Run the Damn Ball.

    You can see where this is going, and (fingers crossed) if it doesn't, still is wrong. It would be like hitting on 17 at the blackjack table. You can get on a hot streak where it works for a little while, but over time your going to lose.

  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,553 Swaye's Wigwam

    hardhat said:

    Like a lot of people, I assumed Jimmy would recruit really well. I expected a Byron Murphy level recruit every year. I think we have 9 win Jimmy instead of Seven Win Sark. I suppose that's an improvement though.

    Ehh I'm not confident we'll win 9 games even in this dreck conference. I expect the defense to take a step back without PK and the offense will suck as long as we run this antiquated system.
    9 is top end, no injuries, 3 cupcake OOC games at home, 5 conf. home games scenario falling into place.

    Stanford under Shaw is a L until proven otherwise, Mario may be a shitty game day coach, but the talent diff. they are building is going to be tough for him to screw up. Cal w/ Wilcox is more than happy to play us in a 20-17 game which our Offensive Philosophy seems to be, Whittingham has snatched defeat from victory the last two games up here, and if just never throws a pass in either 2nd half walks away with the win, and SC is always just a coach away.

  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    edited August 2021
    godawgst said:

    And we have a coach who seems to believe his quickest route to the NFL is to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by winning with MWC level recruiting.

    Or is going to try and show the NFL how good he is at navigating the College Version of Free Agency with the transfer portal.

    The recruiting for this class is essentially over. We could go 12-0 and would be lucky to flip 1-2 guys max from other places.

    Through yesterday Jimmy has taken a total of 28 recruits +/-. Of them a quarter are reaches/fliers/diamonds in the rough.



    With the Latu and Ah You couch sales we now have at least 7-8 more spots in this year's class. Unfortunately other than Conerly I don't think we're in it for any other blue chips. Expect to see more Finau/Heims type projects and low end MWC level recruits to fill out the rest of the class. The roster in 2-3 years is going to look more like WSU or OSU than Oregon or USC.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    godawgst said:

    And we have a coach who seems to believe his quickest route to the NFL is to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by winning with MWC level recruiting.

    Or is going to try and show the NFL how good he is at navigating the College Version of Free Agency with the transfer portal.

    The recruiting for this class is essentially over. We could go 12-0 and would be lucky to flip 1-2 guys max from other places.

    Through yesterday Jimmy has taken a total of 28 recruits +/-. Of them a quarter are reaches/fliers/diamonds in the rough.



    With the Latu and Ah You couch sales we now have at least 7-8 more spots in this year's class. Unfortunately other than Conerly I don't think we're in it for any other blue chips. Expect to see more Final/Heims type projects and low end MWC level recruits to fill out the rest of the class. The roster in 2-3 years is going to look more like WSU or OSU than Oregon or USC.
    Kanu hasn't dropped us yet
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    dnc said:

    godawgst said:

    And we have a coach who seems to believe his quickest route to the NFL is to prove he's the smartest guy in the room by winning with MWC level recruiting.

    Or is going to try and show the NFL how good he is at navigating the College Version of Free Agency with the transfer portal.

    The recruiting for this class is essentially over. We could go 12-0 and would be lucky to flip 1-2 guys max from other places.

    Through yesterday Jimmy has taken a total of 28 recruits +/-. Of them a quarter are reaches/fliers/diamonds in the rough.



    With the Latu and Ah You couch sales we now have at least 7-8 more spots in this year's class. Unfortunately other than Conerly I don't think we're in it for any other blue chips. Expect to see more Final/Heims type projects and low end MWC level recruits to fill out the rest of the class. The roster in 2-3 years is going to look more like WSU or OSU than Oregon or USC.
    Kanu hasn't dropped us yet
    He'll commit to us and then flip to Oregon. Rip is Big Joe's bitch until proven otherwise.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,793

    When you lose PDF.. @CallMeBigErn

    Sounds like he has a narrative.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,553 Swaye's Wigwam

    When you lose PDF.. @CallMeBigErn

    Sounds like he has a narrative.
    PDF is one of the most posi-doogs left over there. They will give him a free pass owing it to him having a moment of truthful...... er lapse in judgement and getting caught up in the vocal minorities agenda that wants to bring down the program.

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,673 Swaye's Wigwam
    godawgst said:

    When you lose PDF.. @CallMeBigErn

    Sounds like he has a narrative.
    PDF is one of the most posi-doogs left over there. They will give him a free pass owing it to him having a moment of truthful...... er lapse in judgement and getting caught up in the vocal minorities agenda that wants to bring down the program.

    Purp, the way I remember him, was always the first to suck up to the LPT and defend them when they'd get called on something. He's had meltdowns before but talks himself down and they let him.
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited August 2021

    When you lose PDF.. @CallMeBigErn

    Purp sounds like an overreacting cunt on the rag like lots of others.