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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,067
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    HuskyJW said:

    Before 2019 everyone here loved her.

    A bad Hopkins streak and now everyone hates her.

    El oh el.

    I hated the hire

    Then changed my mind and liked it

    Now I just hate myself
    This
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    whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,312
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    I agree with PGOS that we'll be ok, but the main concern is how that happens, which requires a competent, forward thinking and risk taking AD. Uhhhhhhh.........

    Because the way this plays out there is either a massive gap between #1 SEC and #2 B1G, with further huge gaps down to #3 ACC and #4 P12, with a cliff below that, or a manageable gap between #1 SEC and 1b + 1c, followed by a big ass cliff down to the rest.

    B1G is going to be the driver of 1b. ACC is stuck with a 25 year grant of rights unless they add someone, and their best options are WVU and Kansas, I guess. Maybe Cincinnati. Maybe Colorado if the Pac falls apart.

    B1G plus some combo of the best of the P12 is a clear 1b; it keeps the SEC from being too far out in front of them, and opens up a very sizable gap on the ACC. It would be nice for the B1G to lose some of its dead weight. But getting there requires the UW AD to go against the majority of its longstanding partner institutions and to drag the plan forward against what will be some very vocal opposition. To this point, Cohen has hired a football coach from within and retained a losing basketball coach. Bold decisions against the grain are not her thing so far.

    A B1G/P12 strategic partnership/scheduling alliance/pooling of rights etc isn't going to keep pace.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,044
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    FireCohen said:

    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    This. We are NOT a Top 10 blue blood. Never have been. We ARE a legit top 20 program rather easily. No other program west of Austin could put 65,000 to 69,000 in Husky Stadium after Owen 12.
    Maybe Nebraska
    Good lord Fire Pete you ignorant wretch. Austin is 97.0 degrees W. Lincoln is 96.4 degrees W.

    Keep this guy away from the navigatior’s seat fellas.
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    I laugh at you cowards who think the SEC is some kind of untenable mountain to overcome. It doesn't matter how strong a conference is you just need to be a good team to beat the teams in that conference. The only reason the southern chant has embedded so deeply in your heads is the fact that Saban is at Alabama.

    If Saban leaves so goes the majority of your nightmares as you're reminded that there has been dominant teams and conferences throughout the entire history of cfb that change decade to decade.
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    AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 6,994
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    Canadawg said:

    I laugh at you cowards who think the SEC is some kind of untenable mountain to overcome. It doesn't matter how strong a conference is you just need to be a good team to beat the teams in that conference. The only reason the southern chant has embedded so deeply in your heads is the fact that Saban is at Alabama.

    If Saban leaves so goes the majority of your nightmares as you're reminded that there has been dominant teams and conferences throughout the entire history of cfb that change decade to decade.

    11 of the last 15 titles are from that conference. 2 of bama’s 6 titles are over conference opponents. Take those away and they still are 7/15. Going forward they also have biggest budgets to outpay and Poach coaches which IMO is the biggest issue.

    You’re right that saban swings the pendulum further for them, but it’s not like it’s a bama thing alone.

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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    Did you say the same thing about Nebraska?
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,601
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    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
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    SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,817
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    UW is a top 20 program despite it's efforts to fuck everything up. We'll find a way to disappoint, it's the script
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    FireCohen said:

    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    This. We are NOT a Top 10 blue blood. Never have been. We ARE a legit top 20 program rather easily. No other program west of Austin could put 65,000 to 69,000 in Husky Stadium after Owen 12.
    Maybe Nebraska
    Good lord Fire Pete you ignorant wretch. Austin is 97.0 degrees W. Lincoln is 96.4 degrees W.

    Keep this guy away from the navigatior’s seat fellas.
    Hey deepshit, 0.7 degrees off pretty good by my standards
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
    Why would UW give a single fuck what happens to WSU? Lol
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,601
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    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
    Why would UW give a single fuck what happens to WSU? Lol
    It would be "mean" to leave behind WSU. That's the kind of mentality that pervades at UW. There are no mercenaries in positions of power, at least not in terms of athletics.
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,309
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    Pretty sure I was right about how the NCAA ruling should favor a big brand media market team but that we'd fuck it up anyways. I won't hold my breath that sweater puppies is going to go all in on paying players(like we need to) and sully the good name of UW academics with minor league football branding.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,044
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    FireCohen said:

    FireCohen said:

    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    This. We are NOT a Top 10 blue blood. Never have been. We ARE a legit top 20 program rather easily. No other program west of Austin could put 65,000 to 69,000 in Husky Stadium after Owen 12.
    Maybe Nebraska
    Good lord Fire Pete you ignorant wretch. Austin is 97.0 degrees W. Lincoln is 96.4 degrees W.

    Keep this guy away from the navigatior’s seat fellas.
    Hey deepshit, 0.7 degrees off pretty good by my standards
    *dipshit

    Speak Engrish.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
    Why would UW give a single fuck what happens to WSU? Lol
    It would be "mean" to leave behind WSU. That's the kind of mentality that pervades at UW. There are no mercenaries in positions of power, at least not in terms of athletics.
    And this is based off of what? Hiring Jimmy?

    Seems like a stretch
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,572
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    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
    Why would UW give a single fuck what happens to WSU? Lol
    They wouldn't. Fucking clown thoughts.

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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,601
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    edited July 2021

    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
    Why would UW give a single fuck what happens to WSU? Lol
    It would be "mean" to leave behind WSU. That's the kind of mentality that pervades at UW. There are no mercenaries in positions of power, at least not in terms of athletics.
    And this is based off of what? Hiring Jimmy?

    Seems like a stretch
    Based off of the political culture at the university. Based off of how Jenn was hired, how Jimmy got the job, lack of aggressive marketing outside of "greatest setting" and sustainability awards, hiring Duck grads to run AD marketing in to the ground, forfeiting the P12 North title and P12 Championship game spot while also wishing your hated rival "good luck." Do you not understand the culture in Western Washington?
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    FireCohen said:

    FireCohen said:

    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    This. We are NOT a Top 10 blue blood. Never have been. We ARE a legit top 20 program rather easily. No other program west of Austin could put 65,000 to 69,000 in Husky Stadium after Owen 12.
    Maybe Nebraska
    Good lord Fire Pete you ignorant wretch. Austin is 97.0 degrees W. Lincoln is 96.4 degrees W.

    Keep this guy away from the navigatior’s seat fellas.
    Hey deepshit, 0.7 degrees off pretty good by my standards
    *dipshit

    Speak Engrish.
    Touché
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,610
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    This website is ridiculous.

    UW is a top 20 program by all metrics. It brings a massive media market, history of success, big fanbase, legit stadium etc.

    There is not a world that exists where UW gets fucked out of a "superconference" merger.

    Too much money is at stake for the University, which has shown a commitment to improving the program since the Ty Willingham cratering.

    A lot of poasters have the perception that UW is a top 10 blueblood from an expectations perspective, while on the other hand treating UW like the KSU, okie lites, and WVUs of the world when it comes to realignment.

    Yall need to get your shit together, grab the significant other, and take a walk on the beach

    We will be in the shitty, second-tier "superconference."
    A pac 12 b1g merger would be a 1b at worst
    You have more faith than I that UW would leave Couglet behind. I don't think UW actually joins. I think they try to piece together the scraps of the PAC.
    Why would UW give a single fuck what happens to WSU? Lol
    It would be "mean" to leave behind WSU. That's the kind of mentality that pervades at UW. There are no mercenaries in positions of power, at least not in terms of athletics.
    And this is based off of what? Hiring Jimmy?

    Seems like a stretch
    Based off of the political culture at the university. Based off of how Jenn was hired, how Jimmy got the job, lack of aggressive marketing outside of "greatest setting" and sustainability awards, hiring Duck grads to run AD marketing in to the ground, forfeiting the P12 North title and P12 Championship game spot while also wishing your hated rival "good luck." Do you not understand the culture in Western Washington?
    I see you're confusing some cringey decision making with willingly cutting off millions of dollars of income

    Hiring from within is a devil you know tactic, and the UW marketing department needs improvement no doubt.

    Neither of those things mean UW is voluntarily going to take a ~25 million haircut over fucking cuog
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