Save the Pac?
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I’ve seen a view of the mock pods and for the most there aren’t more than 2 really strong teams in any single podgodawgst said:10 years ago the thought was there would be 4 16 team superconferences and either the Pac would get OU/Texas or the Big12 would take SC/UCLA, and the winner of that was the 4th along with SEC/Big10/ACC
With SEC going Nuclear and grabbing them, at best you will have three with now both the Remaining B12 and P12 sol.
Now that it's come out SEC and OU/Texas have been talking between 6 months and year, it makes much more sense why Playoffs suddenly went from 4 to 12 teams (led in large part by SEC commish Mike Sankey).
A simple but telling way you will see that the SEC just cares more..... In all the different realignment scenarios for the Pac/B12 it's based on geography. In the SEC however they decide to group teams (quads/pods/divisions/etc) it will be done to spread out the dreck evenly so that they can maximize their chances to have as many teams as possible with high win totals and hence get in the playoffs. In essence you won't see Kentucky and Vandy in the same 4 team pod.
There’s a clear division even within the SEC of the have’s and have not’s -
PAC 12 branding sucks big time - I just went to CBS CFB and there is not one article about the PAC 12, ESPN had 3 - WSU coach is not vaccinated and two about the new PAC 12 commissioner not being interested in expanding (but willing to discuss).
All this realignment talk is every where except west of the Rockies. and on some obscure college football bored
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I’m withholding comment until Cohen tweets out for them to rep the PAC!dnc said:
Mike says it's happening but with Colorado instead of UWgreenblood said:I’d prefer UW, UO, USC, and UCLA just rush to the Big 10.
Texas A&M, Okie St, Nebraska, and TCU aren’t saving this conference.
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I know you’re being sarcastic but their problem wasn’t building the bonfire, their problem was keeping it upright.RatherBeBrewing said:TAMU isn’t coming. They think that everyone here is a heroin junkie communist that sometimes cheers on their effeminate football team, the anteefas, if they’re not busy with sodomy and ballet. They’re not entirely wrong, but I refuse to listen to a school that couldn’t even build and decent bonfire like some type of slow cavemen.
The age of the super conference is upon us. There is no saving the Pacific Whatever Conference League. Or maybe it’s the opposite, don’t listen to me - I’m usually very wrong on these things.
A chance this kick starts the 16-24 team super league, and the leftovers scramble for tallest midget. A relegation system could create a real Hunger Games type spectacle.
I really thought that Texas and Oklahoma were just doing the hustle again, the one that leads the rest of the conference to spread ‘em and give then whatever they want. They used Orangebloods dot com and Larry Scott last time, it seemed like version II. But maybe it’s for real.
I’ve suggested Oregon and Washington going to the Big Ten for years.
As for saving the Pac... Why? Tradition? History? A chance to be pourer than Mizzou? Fuck that, I know we go all the way back to 1994 and Oregon is a founding member, but I say fuck everyone in the conference. Unless there is no better alternative and no invitation - in which case let’s see what we can do to preserve our shared history and future viability. -
That’s the kind of cynicism that college football has inspired in many fans.1to392831weretaken said:
In my opinion, college football was the greatest sport ever. Takes arguably the most exciting and complex team sport ever created and displays it at the perfect level: A high enough level that you're still watching freaks be freaks but not such a high level that you might as well be watching robots play. In college football, there is still big money and pressure on the line, but not so much that conservatism reigns. Every NFL team looks exactly like every other NFL team, to the point where a player can be traded and be starting for the new team a week later. Most football innovations start at the high school or college levels, usually out of necessity, as the playing field can be so tilted. There are years where OSU (west) or WSU are legit good, and that's amazing! Rivalries are regional and accessible. Players stay on the same team throughout their career--they choose their team just like the fan does, so they're more relatable and likeable than a pro mercenary.RatherBeBrewing said:
The problem is that nearly all of these reasons that college football is great have either already been thrown in the trash or are about to be. The transfer portal has already brought free agency. (Hell, all the hand-wringing here over the total cuckery of wishing Oregon well in repping the north was closing the barn door after the horse was already out: Just the prior season, UW cried in a corner while watching Georgia fuck their girl, then took their sloppy seconds and let him start at quarterback. All for 8-5.) Now NIL is bringing the mercenary nature of the players into the light of day.
And this imbalance is tilting the playing field so far toward the haves that even the ingenuity and variety that used to keep the game interesting is no longer sufficient. You're not going to beat Alabama's 40 5-stars no matter how clever your scheme and no matter how much you care about the kids and develop them. Besides--you're just developing some portion of them so they can transfer to a lower school if they're impatient for playing time or a higher school if they were using you as a stepping stone to greater exposure in the SEC.
And then the final nail in the coffin: Traveling 3000 miles to take on a "conference rival," because that's all a "lowly" program like the fucking University of Washington can do to have a prayer in the future of keeping a top-100 kid who lives five miles from campus from losing 20 pounds and moving to Columbus, Ohio to be closer to home.
I didn't realize how close I was to the edge, but I'm right there with @MikeDamone and @TommySQC: I already don't watch the NFL, and I can not watch college football as well if it's just going to be another NFL only without the parity.
The playoff isn’t devaluing Bowel Games in the way the pundits like to write about. It is just dickslapping reality into fans. The Rose, Sun, and Redbox Bowls that the grandfathers of the current players bled for are now the scraps that have fallen from the tables of the landed gentry. Those bowl payouts will allow the peasants to harvest another season of crops, so the plump goose at the table of Alabama, Ohio State, and other aristocrats can have gross carrots as decoration. You need those vegetables like you need a game on the 8:30 PST ESPN2 time slot; it rounds out the table, but it isn’t vital.
More and more people are realizing they are carrots. They pay to be carrots. Time, money, effort, and hope. Alabama feeds off the hope, like some kind of Saturday afternoon carrot munching Bugs Bunny Nesferatu. It’s what sustains the whole thing. Playing Clemson is not an accomplishment. Playing Clemson while 60 other carrot fan bases envy them, and wish for a generational talent for a chance to be like them - if just for one brief year, that is what sustains them.
The tiers are stratifying even further. I know it’s a played out trope here but it is true; some schools care and will try to not be left behind. The depressing thing is even if the school cares the vast majority has no chance of keeping up. Shaking up the conferences in such a manor is as big of a change as there could be to speed up the process. -
Whatever happens with the big 12, again, I don't see anything materializing for the Pac only for the fact that their new commissioner is riding around promising a massively improved TV contract and whatever his plan is for the P12N. Champ games in Vegas, etc. There's enough on the table that I don't think any school is a serious threat except maybe Colorado whose roots aren't Pac.
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No expansion without a guarantee one division would be the pac8. Put the Arizona and mountain schools in the other division with whatever 4 shitheads get added.
But the real answer imho
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Big 12 will raid AAC, probably picking up SMU and Houston. Probably won't get adventurous, but if they do, BYU, Boise State, SDSU, and UNLV offer new markets and would put them at 14ntxduck said:No expansion without a guarantee one division would be the pac8. Put the Arizona and mountain schools in the other division with whatever 4 shitheads get added.
But the real answer imho -
Big 12 will be try and take those and Memphis for sure.whatshouldicareabout said:
Big 12 will raid AAC, probably picking up SMU and Houston. Probably won't get adventurous, but if they do, BYU, Boise State, SDSU, and UNLV offer new markets and would put them at 14ntxduck said:No expansion without a guarantee one division would be the pac8. Put the Arizona and mountain schools in the other division with whatever 4 shitheads get added.
But the real answer imho
Question is is that an upgrade from the AAC? -
dnc said:
Big 12 will be try and take those and Memphis for sure.whatshouldicareabout said:
Big 12 will raid AAC, probably picking up SMU and Houston. Probably won't get adventurous, but if they do, BYU, Boise State, SDSU, and UNLV offer new markets and would put them at 14ntxduck said:No expansion without a guarantee one division would be the pac8. Put the Arizona and mountain schools in the other division with whatever 4 shitheads get added.
But the real answer imho
Question is is that an upgrade from the AAC?
