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Thoughts on coming 12 team playoff?

godawgst
godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,553 Swaye's Wigwam
1) It's a money grab above all else no matter what the NCAA says
2) See #1

Overall thoughts is the Regular Season becomes watered down, devalued and is now about seeding

There are 15-20 P5 AD's (including Jen Cowen) who should be fired for financial maleficence if they ever schedule any non-conference game that isn't a lay-up

If you lose 0-2 games your in, and even if you lose three you will be on the bubble.

New Pac-12 Commissioners 1st order of business even above next TV deal is to try and convince Presidents of stepping back to 8 conference games. Playing the 9th one is even more of a suicide mission now versus the ACC and specifically the SEC
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club
    lol.

    There's 12 regular season games. 9 conference games.

    It's not the NBA/MLB/NHL. People are tuning in.

    And that's with scheduling FCS.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    The AAC making the playoff more than the Pac-12 will be fun
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Big picture it’s a good thing
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club

    The AAC making the playoff more than the Pac-12 will be fun

    Pac 12 will always get at least one team in every year just for the sake of getting West Coast eye balls. Pac 12 will probably get 2 teams every year, minimum. What the fuck is the AAC?

    What this is actually going to kill is the conference championships. They won't mean a thing unless one team involved thinks they're on the bubble.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    edited June 2021
    If 9-3 Alamo participants are given automatic bids, I could probably get behind it. @PostGameOrangeSlices
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    haie said:

    The AAC making the playoff more than the Pac-12 will be fun

    Pac 12 will always get at least one team in every year just for the sake of getting West Coast eye balls. Pac 12 will probably get 2 teams every year, minimum. What the fuck is the AAC?

    What this is actually going to kill is the conference championships. They won't mean a thing unless one team involved thinks they're on the bubble.
    In the Stanford and Oregon teams there would be two PAC 12 teams in. In 2016 and 2017, USC and UW probably both get in. The past few years, there would only be one Pac 12 team in.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,698
    I like it. With 4 team playoff, in a power 5 conference, lose one game and TSIO. By having 12 teams, winning the division and conference matter, getting into playoff a reality even if you lose 2-3 gaymes. Mor teams have moar to play for.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,193 Standard Supporter
    4 team playoff was killing interest in the sport. This will help recruiting for non-Alabama/Clemson schools. Could be a final pitch from Jimmy to keep JTT at home.

    There will probably be some blowouts in the first few years until recruiting starts to balance out. I could easily see a 12 beating a 5 in round 1 and then getting blown out by 50 against the 1 seed.

    Very interesting to see Notre Dame sign off on this because the highest seed they can get is a 5 due to not being in a conference. Unless this portends them now joining a conference.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    edited June 2021
    Way fucking better. 8 would be ideal, but whatever, at least now every NY6 bowl will mean something, even if the RB becomes even more bastardized.

    Edit - nevermind, with the first round bye format there would still be an NY6 rotation. Or we can just tell peach and cotton to fuck off.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    It should be 16 and fuck the first round byes.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    The playoff is an abomination. 4 teams? 12 teams? 16 teams? Kill it all with fire.

    It’s not an option sadly. I’d gladly return to the old ways. Barring that, 12 is better than 4 which is killing the sport.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    TTJ said:

    The playoff is an abomination. 4 teams? 12 teams? 16 teams? Kill it all with fire.

    My mind isn't made up, but I lean the same way.

    I dont want to devalue regular season games, BUT, diminishing the fear of a single loss could lead to better regular season matchups. The need to go 12-0 with a +40 margin of victory makes college football pretty boring for me. Maybe that's why I pay more attention to dumb shit like recruiting and roster battles than final scores these days.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club
    I miss the bowl games with the season ending on Jan 1. But I realize that those are never, ever coming back the way they were
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    The best part about the proposal is getting on-campus playoff games, IMO. Will bring a special kind of electric energy to those 1st round games. And the games should actually be good because the skullfucker elite teams will have byes. It’ll also lead to a lot of good matchups that would never happen otherwise because the OOC scheduling system is so broken
  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Playoff + CTE = no CFB in 20 years
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    NEsnake12 said:

    The best part about the proposal is getting on-campus playoff games, IMO. Will bring a special kind of electric energy to those 1st round games. And the games should actually be good because the skullfucker elite teams will have byes. It’ll also lead to a lot of good matchups that would never happen otherwise because the OOC scheduling system is so broken

    I’d be 100% ok with ending the charade of neutral site games and make all games on campus until the National Championship Game ... which takes on more of a Super Bowl feel
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,194
    Baseman said:

    If 9-3 Alamo participants are given automatic bids, I could probably get behind it. @PostGameOrangeSlices

    Gotta beat Sark in the Alamo to get to 10 wins.

    Its the script
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2021

    Way fucking better. 8 would be ideal, but whatever, at least now every NY6 bowl will mean something, even if the RB becomes even more bastardized.

    Edit - nevermind, with the first round bye format there would still be an NY6 rotation. Or we can just tell peach and cotton to fuck off.

    There should be no bowls or no playoff. HTH
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    TTJ said:

    Playoff + CTE = no CFB in 20 years

    If white upper middle class progressive have there way it will be replaced with Lacrosse and soccer.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,700 Founders Club
    edited June 2021
    Yeah the old BCS system was best. Because schools are not created equal, and succes is therefore relative, so alums and fans were pumped up for all the bowl games.

    Even in 2015 when WSU was in a shit bowl and so was UW, it was fun being in that environment and talking shit back and forth for what are essentiallly post season exhibition games (because they happened at roughly the same time if I remember correctly)

    My Beavlet inlaws talk about all the bowls they've been to and those experiences. It's great. It separates the sport from Pro sports, for sure.

    But they killed that in 2014 anyways, and the FCS system is okay, so if you're going to pivot may as well pivot to that instead of this top 4 thing.

    Top 4 helped Oregon, helped UW (maybe, not). But it's not very interesting for a variety of reasons.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,270
    There are over 120 teams….how do you have a 4 team playoff

    Either expand the field or reduce the teams
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    8 is great imo. Every P5 gets their Champ? in and the best G5 team gets in. Leaving 2 spots for what would no doubt be the highest draws.

    No teams have an advantage of playing less gaymes to get to the Natty this way as well.

  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925

    TTJ said:

    Playoff + CTE = no CFB in 20 years

    If white upper middle class progressive have there way it will be replaced with Lacrosse and soccer.
    Their*
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,334
    edited June 2021
    godawgst said:

    1) It's a money grab above all else no matter what the NCAA says
    2) See #1

    Overall thoughts is the Regular Season becomes watered down, devalued and is now about seeding

    There are 15-20 P5 AD's (including Jen Cowen) who should be fired for financial maleficence if they ever schedule any non-conference game that isn't a lay-up

    If you lose 0-2 games your in, and even if you lose three you will be on the bubble.

    New Pac-12 Commissioners 1st order of business even above next TV deal is to try and convince Presidents of stepping back to 8 conference games. Playing the 9th one is even more of a suicide mission now versus the ACC and specifically the SEC

    I like it. The only problem is it adds the potential for three games for teams finishing 5-12.

    What makes it work is that it only adds one game (potentially) for the highest four finishers.

    I understand that some FCS teams play a fuckton of games but we are dealing with some really fucktarded ADs in some of the non SEC conferences.

    Its an abomination if it takes away from the 12 game existing schedule.

    It doesn't really do away with the good non-conference match ups it just moves them to the post season.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,334

    TTJ said:

    Playoff + CTE = no CFB in 20 years

    If white upper middle class progressive have there way it will be replaced with Lacrosse and soccer.
    Their*
    *their ---- (its in the middle of the sentence, dickweed.


    HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    As long as it doesn’t impact the Weedeater Bowl I’m good.