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Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now. -
Captive of the moment. Luka is playing in the 1st round of the playoffs in a league where everyone is allergic to playing defense and the rules are geared towards offense. Bird could post up and was a million times better shooter from distance than Luka. He also won championships and mvps (and was even all-defense a few times). Hell, he still scored 20 a game as a 35 year old cripple.RoadDawg55 said:
Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now.
Save the Luka is better stuff for 10 years from now when he has a body of work to compare. -
This is such a dumb take. Scoring isn’t up because guys don’t play defense, it’s up because teams realized how valuable 3 point shots are and that more 3 point shooters creates space. Guys play harder on defense than ever before with having to rotate around to shooters.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Captive of the moment. Luka is playing in the 1st round of the playoffs in a league where everyone is allergic to playing defense and the rules are geared towards offense. Bird could post up and was a million times better shooter from distance than Luka. He also won championships and mvps (and was even all-defense a few times). Hell, he still scored 20 a game as a 35 year old cripple.RoadDawg55 said:
Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now.
Save the Luka is better stuff for 10 years from now when he has a body of work to compare.
The glory teams of yesteryear played great defense because there were always two giant oafs standing in the paint. Not because they tried harder or cared more. -
They try hard rotate on D so much that most 3 pt attempts are uncontested. There are still great defensive players in the league. But no great defensive teams.TheKobeStopper said:
This is such a dumb take. Scoring isn’t up because guys don’t play defense, it’s up because teams realized how valuable 3 point shots are and that more 3 point shooters creates space. Guys play harder on defense than ever before with having to rotate around to shooters.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Captive of the moment. Luka is playing in the 1st round of the playoffs in a league where everyone is allergic to playing defense and the rules are geared towards offense. Bird could post up and was a million times better shooter from distance than Luka. He also won championships and mvps (and was even all-defense a few times). Hell, he still scored 20 a game as a 35 year old cripple.RoadDawg55 said:
Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now.
Save the Luka is better stuff for 10 years from now when he has a body of work to compare.
The glory teams of yesteryear played great defense because there were always two giant oafs standing in the paint. Not because they tried harder or cared more.
You either hit the 3 and win or don’t and lose.
Good NBA “defense” is a game of chance nowadays. -
They don't play defense, and the league has changed the rules to inhibit a defender's ability to stop penetration. Guys walk down the lane unimpeded because you can't hand check anymore. Guys play harder on defense than ever before...LMAO. Okay, dude.TheKobeStopper said:
This is such a dumb take. Scoring isn’t up because guys don’t play defense, it’s up because teams realized how valuable 3 point shots are and that more 3 point shooters creates space. Guys play harder on defense than ever before with having to rotate around to shooters.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Captive of the moment. Luka is playing in the 1st round of the playoffs in a league where everyone is allergic to playing defense and the rules are geared towards offense. Bird could post up and was a million times better shooter from distance than Luka. He also won championships and mvps (and was even all-defense a few times). Hell, he still scored 20 a game as a 35 year old cripple.RoadDawg55 said:
Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now.
Save the Luka is better stuff for 10 years from now when he has a body of work to compare.
The glory teams of yesteryear played great defense because there were always two giant oafs standing in the paint. Not because they tried harder or cared more. -
Pippen and Jordan are laughing their asses off at @TheKobeStopper assertion.BleachedAnusDawg said:
They don't play defense, and the league has changed the rules to inhibit a defender's ability to stop penetration. Guys walk down the lane unimpeded because you can't hand check anymore. Guys play harder on defense than ever before...LMAO. Okay, dude.TheKobeStopper said:
This is such a dumb take. Scoring isn’t up because guys don’t play defense, it’s up because teams realized how valuable 3 point shots are and that more 3 point shooters creates space. Guys play harder on defense than ever before with having to rotate around to shooters.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Captive of the moment. Luka is playing in the 1st round of the playoffs in a league where everyone is allergic to playing defense and the rules are geared towards offense. Bird could post up and was a million times better shooter from distance than Luka. He also won championships and mvps (and was even all-defense a few times). Hell, he still scored 20 a game as a 35 year old cripple.RoadDawg55 said:
Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now.
Save the Luka is better stuff for 10 years from now when he has a body of work to compare.
The glory teams of yesteryear played great defense because there were always two giant oafs standing in the paint. Not because they tried harder or cared more.
Dudes got out and flat locked opponents down.
See also Gary Payton.
Nobody defends like that today. The defensive player of the year this season was Rudy fucking Gobert, for Christ’s sake.
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Okay Mr Front-RunnerRaceBannon said:
I believe the kids would say - stay in your laneDerekJohnson said:
You think I'm watching the NBA? The only time I've seen Luka was the clip of him flirting with the female refRaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
NBA is my wheelhouse -
They desperately need to change the foul calling. When stars are hunting for fouls instead of just trying to make shots, you have a rapidly degrading product.
Fouls should just be if you hit a shooter's hand/arm hard enough to actually change their dribble or shot. You should be able to set a precedent of consistency with that. You should be able to touch the goddamn ball handler.
Biggest example was the Blazers Suns game at the end of the season. Powell touches Booker's hand, doesn't change his shot whatsoever, he just flat misses, and gets game winning free throw attempts. -
Ok and I could name Kawhi, Lebron and Chris Paul who were lockdown guys in their prime. You’re just naming outlier defenders.PurpleThrobber said:
Pippen and Jordan are laughing their asses off at @TheKobeStopper assertion.BleachedAnusDawg said:
They don't play defense, and the league has changed the rules to inhibit a defender's ability to stop penetration. Guys walk down the lane unimpeded because you can't hand check anymore. Guys play harder on defense than ever before...LMAO. Okay, dude.TheKobeStopper said:
This is such a dumb take. Scoring isn’t up because guys don’t play defense, it’s up because teams realized how valuable 3 point shots are and that more 3 point shooters creates space. Guys play harder on defense than ever before with having to rotate around to shooters.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Captive of the moment. Luka is playing in the 1st round of the playoffs in a league where everyone is allergic to playing defense and the rules are geared towards offense. Bird could post up and was a million times better shooter from distance than Luka. He also won championships and mvps (and was even all-defense a few times). Hell, he still scored 20 a game as a 35 year old cripple.RoadDawg55 said:
Luka is better.RaceBannon said:
People forget that Larry Bird was at Indiana State losing to Magic when he was 23DerekJohnson said:
You tell people to pick and then when they do you tell them to LIPORaceBannon said:
I think its close at 23. LIPOKaepsknee said:
Larry.RaceBannon said:You can start a team with 23 year old Luka or 23 year old Larry.
Pick
And it’s not close.
@WilburHooksHands in 3....2.....
Inconsistent messaging
Luka has been a pro since he was 14 and is in his second playoff run with historical numbers that compare to players like MJ
To say its not close is not right
At all
Whoever thinks he will have a short prime hasn’t watched him play. His game isn’t based on athleticism. The size, strength, and skill aren’t going anywhere. If anything, they will continue to improve.
We are watching a potentially all time great. Nobody that is currently in the league, including LeBron was as good at 22 as Doncic is now.
Save the Luka is better stuff for 10 years from now when he has a body of work to compare.
The glory teams of yesteryear played great defense because there were always two giant oafs standing in the paint. Not because they tried harder or cared more.
Dudes got out and flat locked opponents down.
See also Gary Payton.
Nobody defends like that today. The defensive player of the year this season was Rudy fucking Gobert, for Christ’s sake.
In 2011 Lebron would guard reigning MVP Derrick Rose at the end of games and Rose couldn’t do shit. Do you know why? Because the Bulls had Gibson and Noah clogging up the paint.
In 2015 Andre Igoudala won the Finals MVP for guarding Lebron and holding him to 39% shooting. The next year Lebron shot 50% against the same team. You want to know why?
Because in 2015 Kevin Love was hurt and the Cavs played Mozgov and Tristan Thompson a ton. In 2016 those minutes were replaced with Kevin Love and Richard Jefferson. Shooters.
And like I said, you just named outliers. Most defense back then was standing around and watching. I’m not taking anything away from the great defenders but the “nobody cares” narrative is bullshit. Good defense now bust their asses running around. -
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