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Pac 12 North Craft Beer Championship
YellowSnow
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Which state produces better craft beers?
Pac 12 North Craft Beer Championship 16 votes
Washington
43%
7 votes
Oregon
56%
9 votes
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My favorite all time session beer style is the classic German/Czech Pils and I've never been able to find a great one by an American craft brewer (Trummer is decent, but nothing speshial). It sounds like it's hard to get the right euro fag malt on this side of the pond.
Alas, I stumbled onto the Zoiglhaus Pils from PDX and it is fantastic. Pfreim's Pils is pretty solid as well.
@haie
If you live in a non-shithole town in either state, there is a brewer nearby with something for you. The end.
(Yella, for German beers, see if you can find something from Chuckanut. That's their thing.)
Fast forward to today living in Lexington and I’ve got 2 breweries within a mile of my house and another half dozen or so in the city. I was Charleston, SC last week and that town has about a dozen or more breweries.
You can argue about which state has better beer but I think it’s splitting hairs at this point. You can find good beer just about anywhere in this country. After living through some dark tims circa 2004-2005 I am certainly thankful.
Generally I agree with you about the market being saturated, though. Beer 10 years ago to today was like going through an industrial revolution phase.
Ever since Bud Grant died, there hasn't been a Scotch/Scottish Ale worth shit brewed anywhere in the PNW, but for two very good ones from Bridgeport, which is now closed thanks to Portland Antifa Faggots, and Cold Smoke from Montana. Washington has no Scottish Ale worth shit anymore, and that chaps my Scottish Brogue Ass to no end. One more reason I spend much time East of the Mountains, as I can buy Kettle House Cold Smoke in Cle Elum.
My son BTW had as tuff as a Scottish name as it gets. I’ll tell you some time over whiskey at Tumalo happy hour with @dflea
https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2019/2/12/oregons-oldest-brewery-bridgeport-has-closed
Seems like there ain't nobody, wants to come down here no more.
They're closing down the textile mill across the railroad track.
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back,
To your hometown. Your hometown.
Always wound up in the cocktail lounge at that McMenamins, even though I'm not crazy about their beer, so downed as many Whisky Sours or Bourbons as possible before seeing the in-laws.
Anyhow, Bend still has some good beer joints, and even the ones by the roundabouts on Century don't suck. But hitting Bridgeport in Portland for lunch at the midpoint between Seattle and Bend was a family ritual I miss.
Washington makes better lite/crushable beer.
Fremont
Matchless
Fortside (my favorite in this state)
Heathen
Grains of Wrath
OR:
Great Notion
Zoiglehaus
Oregon City Brewing
Gigantic (my favorite in this state)
Ecliptic
Cascadia Brothers in WA for Crazy 88 Lager (low abv, gameday beer), and Loowit (they do 9%+ beer very well)
Hopworks, Fort George, and Crux in OR (they all put out random, excellent shit every year)
A lot of breweries in the South Sound region have locations I really want to visit this summer if I have time, such as Silver City and Valholl
Mostly these kinds of lists come down to what style of beer you prefer.
My favorite beer is out of St. Louis of all places (Abraxas), but it's $20 per bottle, so special occasions only. Firestone Walker, like Pumpy: good at everything. Used to be into The Abyss from Deschutes, but they've gone too heavy with the bourbon and priced it stupid like Fremont. Way back in the day, Pikop Andropov from Hales was the shit--thickest blackest beer money could buy at the time. Anymore, it's hard to say which brewery is better than which when the stuff I usually like best is all small release and comes and goes. I know it's hard to beat some of the specialty stouts from Evil Twin in New York, but they're hard to find here. I've walked into Cloudburst to find three stouts on tap that all rocked my balls, but the most recent time, they didn't have a stout on at all. Ditto Structures (although they have one now that's fucking amazing). Wander's base stout is meh, but when they do something special, it's usually right up there. My brother just turned me on to Great Notion, and they're a similar kind of brewery that tries big things and can seemingly do no wrong.
It's splitting hairs, and at this point it just comes down to where you live, therefore what's readily available, and what style you're into. One thing's for sure is that you get what you pay for, and once you have some of this big specialty stuff, it's harder to appreciate the off the shelf beer. My drinking habit has gotten car-payment expensive!...
Like we say, fuck off.
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