Appears the reality is that nobody ever really listens to the "talk"

SFGbob

The "talk" must be like telling your kids not to eat the ice cream or to clean up after themselves.

On the plus side they did shoot him in the leg so Lebron shouldn't have a problem with this one.

https://youtu.be/ag08EwM7jJM

MikeDamone

When is the riot?

Pitchfork51

First off there aren't any dad's.

Second off the talk is most likely about not goin out like a punk and to stop snitchin

TurdBomber

The Talk is mostly bullshit. I don't doubt some parents, black, brown, white and Asian give it, but the idea that it's a special concern unique to black parents only, and part of their ongoing oppression and suffering, is demonstrably false as the parade of these incidents continues, unabated.

But why not lie about it? The media lies about shit daily, politicians can't tell the truth with a gun to their heads, melodrama and juvenile delinquency runs rampant on 90% of our college campuses, and thrives within academia, where bias, lies and projection rule the day.

So why not lie and dupe people into giving you special treatment and free shit? There's a sucker born every minute, right?

SFGbob

TurdBomber said:

The Talk is mostly bullshit. I don't doubt some parents, black, brown, white and Asian give it, but the idea that it's a special concern unique to black parents only, and part of their ongoing oppression and suffering, is demonstrably false as the parade of these incidents continues, unabated.

But why not lie about it? The media lies about shit daily, politicians can't tell the truth with a gun to their heads, melodrama and juvenile delinquency runs rampant on 90% of our college campuses, and thrives within academia, where bias, lies and projection rule the day.

So why not lie and dupe people into giving you special treatment and free shit? There's a sucker born every minute, right?

I never called it the "talk" but I did inform all three of my boys that they should never mouth off to the police. There's no upside to it. I also tried to give them what I just considered to be common sense advice. Keep your hands on the wheel, don't go digging under the seat or in the glove box and be respectful and polite. Didn't feel I had to do this because my kids are black did it because it just seemed like good advice.

None of my boys are angels. But knock on wood nobody has ever been arrested or in any legal trouble.

Kaepsknee

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

The Talk is mostly bullshit. I don't doubt some parents, black, brown, white and Asian give it, but the idea that it's a special concern unique to black parents only, and part of their ongoing oppression and suffering, is demonstrably false as the parade of these incidents continues, unabated.

But why not lie about it? The media lies about shit daily, politicians can't tell the truth with a gun to their heads, melodrama and juvenile delinquency runs rampant on 90% of our college campuses, and thrives within academia, where bias, lies and projection rule the day.

So why not lie and dupe people into giving you special treatment and free shit? There's a sucker born every minute, right?

I never called it the "talk" but I did inform all three of my boys that they should never mouth off to the police. There's no upside to it. I also tried to give them what I just considered to be common sense advice. Keep your hands on the wheel, don't go digging under the seat or in the glove box and be respectful and polite. Didn't feel I had to do this because my kids are black did it because it just seemed like good advice.

None of my boys are angels. But knock on wood nobody has ever been arrested or in any legal trouble.

You teach your kids to not mouth off to the police by not allowing them to mouth off to you.

TurdBomber

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

The Talk is mostly bullshit. I don't doubt some parents, black, brown, white and Asian give it, but the idea that it's a special concern unique to black parents only, and part of their ongoing oppression and suffering, is demonstrably false as the parade of these incidents continues, unabated.

But why not lie about it? The media lies about shit daily, politicians can't tell the truth with a gun to their heads, melodrama and juvenile delinquency runs rampant on 90% of our college campuses, and thrives within academia, where bias, lies and projection rule the day.

So why not lie and dupe people into giving you special treatment and free shit? There's a sucker born every minute, right?

I never called it the "talk" but I did inform all three of my boys that they should never mouth off to the police. There's no upside to it. I also tried to give them what I just considered to be common sense advice. Keep your hands on the wheel, don't go digging under the seat or in the glove box and be respectful and polite. Didn't feel I had to do this because my kids are black did it because it just seemed like good advice.

None of my boys are angels. But knock on wood nobody has ever been arrested or in any legal trouble.

Everyone I know got some version of "the talk" growing up. But seeing James Woods in The Onion Fields showed me that cops have a reason to be anxious and defensive, too.

And I can't believe the shit they have to deal with today, with the tinted windows, uncooperative drivers, the omnipresence of some behavior-changing drug, and the full knowledge that they'll get blamed with 20-20 hindsight for anything that goes wrong, no matter how big of an asshole or criminal the driver is.

Of course there are good cops and bad cops, but when I hear or read smart-asses lumping them all together as one group, I know I'm dealing with someone who can't think for themselves and hasn't grown into adulthood yet.

TurdBomber

Pitchfork51 said:

First off there aren't any dad's.

Second off the talk is most likely about not goin out like a punk and to stop snitchin

There you go. A widely embraced value in black street culture is "Don't Snitch." How cool that is. How protective of criminality and criminals at the expense of your family and community that is.

When being cool with your homeys and protecting criminals is more important to young men than building a life, you've already lost the war.

MikeDamone

TurdBomber said:

The Talk is mostly bullshit. I don't doubt some parents, black, brown, white and Asian give it, but the idea that it's a special concern unique to black parents only, and part of their ongoing oppression and suffering, is demonstrably false as the parade of these incidents continues, unabated.

But why not lie about it? The media lies about shit daily, politicians can't tell the truth with a gun to their heads, melodrama and juvenile delinquency runs rampant on 90% of our college campuses, and thrives within academia, where bias, lies and projection rule the day.

So why not lie and dupe people into giving you special treatment and free shit? There's a sucker born every minute, right?

Most people, regardless of color don’t need the talk. Why? Because the vast majority of people aren’t going to decide the time and place to settle a legal issue isn’t on the side of the road while wrestling with a cop. It’s pretty intuitive actually.

TurdBomber

MikeDamone said:

TurdBomber said:

The Talk is mostly bullshit. I don't doubt some parents, black, brown, white and Asian give it, but the idea that it's a special concern unique to black parents only, and part of their ongoing oppression and suffering, is demonstrably false as the parade of these incidents continues, unabated.

But why not lie about it? The media lies about shit daily, politicians can't tell the truth with a gun to their heads, melodrama and juvenile delinquency runs rampant on 90% of our college campuses, and thrives within academia, where bias, lies and projection rule the day.

So why not lie and dupe people into giving you special treatment and free shit? There's a sucker born every minute, right?

Most people, regardless of color don’t need the talk. Why? Because the vast majority of people aren’t going to decide the time and place to settle a legal issue isn’t on the side of the road while wrestling with a cop. It’s pretty intuitive actually.

You're speaking Adult-Speak. Most of these subjects stop developing into adulthood when they turn 12 or 13 and have learned that they can lie and manipulate their way through life by blaming and abusing other people. And there will always be a family or community member nearby to make a laundry list of excuses for their anti-social and criminal behavior.

Sledog

My kids were told that if they were an ass to a cop I would fully support them getting their ass kicked.

TurdBomber

Sledog said:

My kids were told that if they were an ass to a cop I would fully support them getting their ass kicked.

There's a trophies-for-all problem in the black community when you tell every black girl she's a queen and every black boy he's a king.

Character is formed by working and earning shit, and Empathy grows in that same vein.

I know that's just my whiteness talking, but when I hear ignoramuses throw the word "empathy" around, with no idea what it means or while displaying their own complete lack of it, I know those persons are headed for trouble and conflict.

Sledog

TurdBomber said:

Sledog said:

My kids were told that if they were an ass to a cop I would fully support them getting their ass kicked.

There's a trophies-for-all problem in the black community when you tell every black girl she's a queen and every black boy he's a king.

Character is formed by working and earning shit, and Empathy grows in that same vein.

I know that's just my whiteness talking, but when I hear ignoramuses throw the word "empathy" around, with no idea what it means or while displaying their own complete lack of it, I know those persons are headed for trouble and conflict.

I get it!

SFGbob

TurdBomber said:

Sledog said:

My kids were told that if they were an ass to a cop I would fully support them getting their ass kicked.

There's a trophies-for-all problem in the black community when you tell every black girl she's a queen and every black boy he's a king.

Character is formed by working and earning shit, and Empathy grows in that same vein.

I know that's just my whiteness talking, but when I hear ignoramuses throw the word "empathy" around, with no idea what it means or while displaying their own complete lack of it, I know those persons are headed for trouble and conflict.

Polling reveals that the school kids with the highest self-esteem are the black kids and it's totally independent from academic performance.


Large-scale representative surveys of 8th-, 10th-, and 12th-grade students in the United States show high self-esteem scores for all groups. African-American students score highest, Whites score slightly higher than Hispanics, and Asian Americans score lowest. Males score slightly higher than females. Multivariate controls for grades and college plans actually heighten these race/ethnic/gender differences. A truncated scoring method, designed to counter race/ethnic differences in extreme response style, reduced but did not eliminate the subgroup differences. Age differences in self-esteem are modest, with 12th graders reporting the highest scores. The findings are highly consistent across 18 annual surveys from 1991 through 2008, and self-esteem scores show little overall change during that period.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263756/

TurdBomber

SFGbob said:

TurdBomber said:

Sledog said:

My kids were told that if they were an ass to a cop I would fully support them getting their ass kicked.

There's a trophies-for-all problem in the black community when you tell every black girl she's a queen and every black boy he's a king.

Character is formed by working and earning shit, and Empathy grows in that same vein.

I know that's just my whiteness talking, but when I hear ignoramuses throw the word "empathy" around, with no idea what it means or while displaying their own complete lack of it, I know those persons are headed for trouble and conflict.

Polling reveals that the school kids with the highest self-esteem are the black kids and it's totally independent from academic performance.


Large-scale representative surveys of 8th-, 10th-, and 12th-grade students in the United States show high self-esteem scores for all groups. African-American students score highest, Whites score slightly higher than Hispanics, and Asian Americans score lowest. Males score slightly higher than females. Multivariate controls for grades and college plans actually heighten these race/ethnic/gender differences. A truncated scoring method, designed to counter race/ethnic differences in extreme response style, reduced but did not eliminate the subgroup differences. Age differences in self-esteem are modest, with 12th graders reporting the highest scores. The findings are highly consistent across 18 annual surveys from 1991 through 2008, and self-esteem scores show little overall change during that period.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263756/

In my kids' experience in Seattle schools, all I saw was mostly white liberals going to ridiculous lengths to prove how not racist they were. None were worse than brand new teachers, straight out of college, or older teachers, particularly female, who seemed to think their age alone made them more viewable as racist than their younger peers.

Either way, hardly were black kids and parents oppressed or discriminated against. Quite the contrary. Their asses were licked daily. I'm guessing I might have very high self-esteem, too, if people ostensibly in positions of power and prestige licked my ass every day.

But again, that may just be my whiteness talking.