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Crime of the Century HBO

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Race's rec was enough. However to sweeten the pot for anyone else, it's an Alex Gibney joint. I got about an hour into it before nodding off, really good.

    Another blast from past, 2002 news clip I think: "Rudy Giuliana has agreed to lend his considerable credibility to help Purdue Pharma..."
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    Arguably the most perverse incentive structure we have in today's American economy. Rake in billions by pushing this shit and creating an epidemic, then say sorry by paying a few million in fines. Andrew Yang's proposal of jail time for the CEO and largest shareholder seems to be the only thing that could curb such a lucrative and devastating venture.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    “The only traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy, and the lash”. Winston Churchill
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,758 Standard Supporter
    Never taken a pain pill outside of tylenol or ibuprofen. Hope to never have to. Got a prescription for them once for wisdom teeth and I threw it away.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Cliff notes

    Opioids designed for end of life cancer so it doesn't matter if you got hooked were repackaged with a time release coating and the FDA allowed language in the package that says addiction is unlikely and can be used for all pain.

    The FDA guy that did that got a job with Big Pharm shortly thereafter. Sales force was unleashed to get doctors to buy buy buy. This was in 1995

    Within a year everyone knew that it was highly addictive, people were dying and it was being sold on the street as well as from pill mills like you saw on TV in Justified

    The DOJ finally gets a trial by 2007 and at this point the company had made around 10 billion dollars. The DOJ slapped their wrist with a 600 million dollar fine and no jail

    Congressmen like Dodd and paid guys like Rudy blamed drug addicts not the company pushing the shit on patients and telling them it isn't addictive

    That was part 1. Part 2 is Fentanyl

    Probably the biggest mindblown.jif for me in Part 1, was seeing combines harvesting fields of poppies in Tasmania. I sorta had a thought in the last decade regarding the @Logistics of opioid production, thinking "Damn, that's got to be a lotta Afghani 3rd graders out harvesting with a razor blade." You know, old NatGeo stylee. Turns out, that was neanderthal thinking.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,613 Founders Club

    Cliff notes

    Opioids designed for end of life cancer so it doesn't matter if you got hooked were repackaged with a time release coating and the FDA allowed language in the package that says addiction is unlikely and can be used for all pain.

    The FDA guy that did that got a job with Big Pharm shortly thereafter. Sales force was unleashed to get doctors to buy buy buy. This was in 1995

    Within a year everyone knew that it was highly addictive, people were dying and it was being sold on the street as well as from pill mills like you saw on TV in Justified

    The DOJ finally gets a trial by 2007 and at this point the company had made around 10 billion dollars. The DOJ slapped their wrist with a 600 million dollar fine and no jail

    Congressmen like Dodd and paid guys like Rudy blamed drug addicts not the company pushing the shit on patients and telling them it isn't addictive

    That was part 1. Part 2 is Fentanyl

    Probably the biggest mindblown.jif for me in Part 1, was seeing combines harvesting fields of poppies in Tasmania. I sorta had a thought in the last decade regarding the @Logistics of opioid production, thinking "Damn, that's got to be a lotta Afghani 3rd graders out harvesting with a razor blade." You know, old NatGeo stylee. Turns out, that was neanderthal thinking.
    And baby soft Johnson and Johnson owned the poppy fields and supplied all the manufacturers

    The Mexican Cartels are small tim compared to the full might of American Corporations and Government

    We have all this regulation, allegedly, of the greedy corporations who only care about money but who is regulating the regulators? Congress was bought off as usual
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Cliff notes

    Opioids designed for end of life cancer so it doesn't matter if you got hooked were repackaged with a time release coating and the FDA allowed language in the package that says addiction is unlikely and can be used for all pain.

    The FDA guy that did that got a job with Big Pharm shortly thereafter. Sales force was unleashed to get doctors to buy buy buy. This was in 1995

    Within a year everyone knew that it was highly addictive, people were dying and it was being sold on the street as well as from pill mills like you saw on TV in Justified

    The DOJ finally gets a trial by 2007 and at this point the company had made around 10 billion dollars. The DOJ slapped their wrist with a 600 million dollar fine and no jail

    Congressmen like Dodd and paid guys like Rudy blamed drug addicts not the company pushing the shit on patients and telling them it isn't addictive

    That was part 1. Part 2 is Fentanyl

    Probably the biggest mindblown.jif for me in Part 1, was seeing combines harvesting fields of poppies in Tasmania. I sorta had a thought in the last decade regarding the @Logistics of opioid production, thinking "Damn, that's got to be a lotta Afghani 3rd graders out harvesting with a razor blade." You know, old NatGeo stylee. Turns out, that was neanderthal thinking.
    And baby soft Johnson and Johnson owned the poppy fields and supplied all the manufacturers

    The Mexican Cartels are small tim compared to the full might of American Corporations and Government

    We have all this regulation, allegedly, of the greedy corporations who only care about money but who is regulating the regulators? Congress was bought off as usual
    Trust the experts.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,360
    edited May 2021
    Most people won't become addicted. Some people even become nauseated by these drugs. But for those with the unlucky genetics (ballpark 10% of the population), they are life altering.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Didn’t watch whole clip yet, but first few minutes are indistinguishable from interviews in Crime. Just a different drug.