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Lance Holtzclaw, 2022 3* DE, Mesa (Desert Ridge), AZ (Committed)
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I will never get over thinking he was some tower of a MLB coming out of HS, allegedly "6'4", gets on campus and is skinny and 6ft flat, in shoes, on a good dayNEsnake12 said:
Every time they’d update roster weights for spring and fall camp, I’d be perpetually disappointed that he was still skinny as shitinsinceredawg said:Ariel Ngata 2.0
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This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about. -
He’s got a lot of tools to work with provided that he is able to 1) put the weight in the weight room
that’s needed and 2) develops positionally on the practice field
He’s probably a RS year and a frosh year buried on the depth type of developmental prospect
It wouldn’t shock me if he turns out to be a really good player … this is what programs like TCU and other programs that I’d say are in the Top 20-40 range that have recruiting challenges (in TCUs case always fighting uphill in-state, vs Oklahoma, vs SEC for truly elite players)
The big question is whether Washington should be expecting to do better from a recruiting standpoint
This is a commit that over indexes on the developmental scale and seems to be the desired sweet spot for recruiting under Jimmy. He’s very clearly surrounded himself with coaches that specialize in coaching and development and in the process has largely excluded staff that specialize in recruiting
There’s obviously many ways to be successful so LIPO
It’s also important to note that with UW’s youth on the roster that there’s more of a buffer in place to play the development game -
With the portal in play not so sure about that buffer buddyTequilla said:He’s got a lot of tools to work with provided that he is able to 1) put the weight in the weight room
that’s needed and 2) develops positionally on the practice field
He’s probably a RS year and a frosh year buried on the depth type of developmental prospect
It wouldn’t shock me if he turns out to be a really good player … this is what programs like TCU and other programs that I’d say are in the Top 20-40 range that have recruiting challenges (in TCUs case always fighting uphill in-state, vs Oklahoma, vs SEC for truly elite players)
The big question is whether Washington should be expecting to do better from a recruiting standpoint
This is a commit that over indexes on the developmental scale and seems to be the desired sweet spot for recruiting under Jimmy. He’s very clearly surrounded himself with coaches that specialize in coaching and development and in the process has largely excluded staff that specialize in recruiting
There’s obviously many ways to be successful so LIPO
It’s also important to note that with UW’s youth on the roster that there’s more of a buffer in place to play the development game -
All you haters saying we only had to beat out BC and OSU... this young man also had offers from Michigan and Iowa State (yeah the same Iowa State that thumped Oregon in a bowl).
Other P5 offers: Arizona, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas State, Michigan, Oregon State, Vanderbilt
G5 offers: Air Force, Boise State, San Diego State
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If they didn't have him for an official visit it means they didn't want him. We beat Boise, BC, OSU and Vandy.HairyBallsDawg said:All you haters saying we only had to beat out BC and OSU... this young man also had offers from Michigan and Iowa State (yeah the same Iowa State that thumped Oregon in a bowl).
Other P5 offers: Arizona, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas State, Michigan, Oregon State, Vanderbilt
G5 offers: Air Force, Boise State, San Diego State -
Parents of recruits read these boardsBroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about. -
You gone and triggered Ern now. What is the reason for even saying this? The fuck is wrong with you? This is a dude we targeted, had offers from good programs, has a huge athletic ceiling, turned heads in camps as a WR, comes from a huge recruiting hotbed out of state, is known as The Claw, has the middle name "Showtime", and he chose to be a DAWG because he's ready to be developed. Since you're clearly disappointed and blinded by the 3* behind his name, you should jerk yourself off by knowing that he's an easy 4* with 25 more pounds on him. That's what Socha, red meat, whole milk, and a few trips around the sun are for. Let's not forget that stars are subjective and hardly based on long-term potential. Stars are largely a function of what scouts see from the stands/clips, when they see them, how often they see them, immediate playing potential, the team surrounding a player, the team they're playing against, and if the scout is constipated or not. I'll take a 3* with huge upside over maxed out 4* dude every time. The Claw is not playing for several years. We don't NEED him to be playing for several years. I always get excited about these long-term upside investments (Trice, Heims, Spears, Wyrsch, etc). Recruiting upside is far more important to me than anything. Of course Ariel Ngata naturally gets thrown out immediately as a cherry-picked example of a skinny dude who didn't develop. Fuck that shit. No shit, Sherlocks, he may not develop. He could get killed walking his doggie. That goes for everyone. I'll take The Claw's high ceiling every day and twice on Saturdays. The best thing after the 5* and very high 4* guys are dudes with the potential to be beasts. I don't care if they are 1* dudes. Get enough upside into your program and the cream shall rise to the top. Let's judge the food after it comes out of the oven as a RS sophomore or junior. Fucking christ, it's not hard.BroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about.
Lance, I'm excited about your commitment. Go fuck up that weight room for a few years and let's do this shit. Woofdah. -
Huskies landing a commitment from anyone with “showtime” as their Twitter handle is a win in my opinion.
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Dude, who the fuck are you to be telling what they can think? Disagreeing is fine, but blasting people is bullshit. If your dick was longer than 3 inches I would tell you to go fuck yourself. Its clear you have a hard on for this high school kid, maybe you should talk about that.CallMeBigErn said:
You gone and triggered Ern now. What is the reason for even saying this? The fuck is wrong with you? This is a dude we targeted, had offers from good programs, has a huge athletic ceiling, turned heads in camps as a WR, comes from a huge recruiting hotbed out of state, is known as The Claw, has the middle name "Showtime", and he chose to be a DAWG because he's ready to be developed. Since you're clearly disappointed and blinded by the 3* behind his name, you should jerk yourself off by knowing that he's an easy 4* with 25 more pounds on him. That's what Socha, red meat, whole milk, and a few trips around the sun are for. Let's not forget that stars are subjective and hardly based on long-term potential. Stars are largely a function of what scouts see from the stands/clips, when they see them, how often they see them, immediate playing potential, the team surrounding a player, the team they're playing against, and if the scout is constipated or not. I'll take a 3* with huge upside over maxed out 4* dude every time. The Claw is not playing for several years. We don't NEED him to be playing for several years. I always get excited about these long-term upside investments (Trice, Heims, Spears, Wyrsch, etc). Recruiting upside is far more important to me than anything. Of course Ariel Ngata naturally gets thrown out immediately as a cherry-picked example of a skinny dude who didn't develop. Fuck that shit. No shit, Sherlocks, he may not develop. He could get killed walking his doggie. That goes for everyone. I'll take The Claw's high ceiling every day and twice on Saturdays. The best thing after the 5* and very high 4* guys are dudes with the potential to be beasts. I don't care if they are 1* dudes. Get enough upside into your program and the cream shall rise to the top. Let's judge the food after it comes out of the oven as a RS sophomore or junior. Fucking christ, it's not hard.BroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about.
Lance, I'm excited about your commitment. Go fuck up that weight room for a few years and let's do this shit. Woofdah. -
dOgmaster said:
Dude, who the fuck are you to be telling what they can think? Disagreeing is fine, but blasting people is bullshit. If your dick was longer than 3 inches I would tell you to go fuck yourself. Its clear you have a hard on for this high school kid, maybe you should talk about that.CallMeBigErn said:
You gone and triggered Ern now. What is the reason for even saying this? The fuck is wrong with you? This is a dude we targeted, had offers from good programs, has a huge athletic ceiling, turned heads in camps as a WR, comes from a huge recruiting hotbed out of state, is known as The Claw, has the middle name "Showtime", and he chose to be a DAWG because he's ready to be developed. Since you're clearly disappointed and blinded by the 3* behind his name, you should jerk yourself off by knowing that he's an easy 4* with 25 more pounds on him. That's what Socha, red meat, whole milk, and a few trips around the sun are for. Let's not forget that stars are subjective and hardly based on long-term potential. Stars are largely a function of what scouts see from the stands/clips, when they see them, how often they see them, immediate playing potential, the team surrounding a player, the team they're playing against, and if the scout is constipated or not. I'll take a 3* with huge upside over maxed out 4* dude every time. The Claw is not playing for several years. We don't NEED him to be playing for several years. I always get excited about these long-term upside investments (Trice, Heims, Spears, Wyrsch, etc). Recruiting upside is far more important to me than anything. Of course Ariel Ngata naturally gets thrown out immediately as a cherry-picked example of a skinny dude who didn't develop. Fuck that shit. No shit, Sherlocks, he may not develop. He could get killed walking his doggie. That goes for everyone. I'll take The Claw's high ceiling every day and twice on Saturdays. The best thing after the 5* and very high 4* guys are dudes with the potential to be beasts. I don't care if they are 1* dudes. Get enough upside into your program and the cream shall rise to the top. Let's judge the food after it comes out of the oven as a RS sophomore or junior. Fucking christ, it's not hard.BroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about.
Lance, I'm excited about your commitment. Go fuck up that weight room for a few years and let's do this shit. Woofdah.
You all caught up yet? @BroadcastingDawg told a UW player's dad that he or anyone else shouldn't be excited about a commit. Fuck that noise. Someone's gotta put this shit in its rightful place, which is at the bottom of a Honey Bucket. Me saying "The fuck is wrong with you?" really inspired you to rush to the defense of poor, defenseless @BroadcastingDawg ? I wish I had that kind of fan club. Must be awesome following him on tour. You ever have a threesome with his drummer?
You have a lot of defense to play in here if that's all it takes to get your panties in a twist.
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No, I don’t frequent “Coug boards.” I’ve actually laid eyes on the young man … more than once. I’ve watched his tape. I’ve seen him run, play 7 v7. My assessment is exactly that, my assessment.BroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about.
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The state of Arizona has been good to us the last couple years. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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If your class size is more normal 20 +/- and you have 17 top end guys in the boat taking a reach/flyer on last three guys is understandable.Tequilla said:He’s got a lot of tools to work with provided that he is able to 1) put the weight in the weight room
that’s needed and 2) develops positionally on the practice field
He’s probably a RS year and a frosh year buried on the depth type of developmental prospect
It wouldn’t shock me if he turns out to be a really good player … this is what programs like TCU and other programs that I’d say are in the Top 20-40 range that have recruiting challenges (in TCUs case always fighting uphill in-state, vs Oklahoma, vs SEC for truly elite players)
The big question is whether Washington should be expecting to do better from a recruiting standpoint
This is a commit that over indexes on the developmental scale and seems to be the desired sweet spot for recruiting under Jimmy. He’s very clearly surrounded himself with coaches that specialize in coaching and development and in the process has largely excluded staff that specialize in recruiting
There’s obviously many ways to be successful so LIPO
It’s also important to note that with UW’s youth on the roster that there’s more of a buffer in place to play the development game
With last/this years class having such small numbers to take, filling those spots with projects is not smart business, especially with how many we did end up taking in the 2021 class and why this year is tbd, I am not optimistic.
Easy rule is however many you take in a class, by the time they are seniors, 50% won't be here (start w/ 20 have 10 left in 4 years). With transfer portal that percentage will be even less going forward.
21 class was 16, this year will be about the same means Jimmy and staff better hit on those 8 development wise and they all better be contributors.
My initial reaction is we should be doing better from a recruiting standpoint, but then you see who we have as recruiters as coaches, their resumes (and lack thereof), the knowledge that the brand of Pete is gone, and JL is a first time hc with no track record and as the old saying goes water always finds it's own level, and right now that is exactly what is going on with UW football and recruiting.
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I can read mother fucker! Yeah he replied to a commits dad. How the fuck is he expected to know that? That dad was told that this shit could get rough. He shouldn’t be treated any different. Broadcastingdawg’s post was fair and pretty soft for this board. I am so let down that no one else is standing up for him.CallMeBigErn said:dOgmaster said:
Dude, who the fuck are you to be telling what they can think? Disagreeing is fine, but blasting people is bullshit. If your dick was longer than 3 inches I would tell you to go fuck yourself. Its clear you have a hard on for this high school kid, maybe you should talk about that.CallMeBigErn said:
You gone and triggered Ern now. What is the reason for even saying this? The fuck is wrong with you? This is a dude we targeted, had offers from good programs, has a huge athletic ceiling, turned heads in camps as a WR, comes from a huge recruiting hotbed out of state, is known as The Claw, has the middle name "Showtime", and he chose to be a DAWG because he's ready to be developed. Since you're clearly disappointed and blinded by the 3* behind his name, you should jerk yourself off by knowing that he's an easy 4* with 25 more pounds on him. That's what Socha, red meat, whole milk, and a few trips around the sun are for. Let's not forget that stars are subjective and hardly based on long-term potential. Stars are largely a function of what scouts see from the stands/clips, when they see them, how often they see them, immediate playing potential, the team surrounding a player, the team they're playing against, and if the scout is constipated or not. I'll take a 3* with huge upside over maxed out 4* dude every time. The Claw is not playing for several years. We don't NEED him to be playing for several years. I always get excited about these long-term upside investments (Trice, Heims, Spears, Wyrsch, etc). Recruiting upside is far more important to me than anything. Of course Ariel Ngata naturally gets thrown out immediately as a cherry-picked example of a skinny dude who didn't develop. Fuck that shit. No shit, Sherlocks, he may not develop. He could get killed walking his doggie. That goes for everyone. I'll take The Claw's high ceiling every day and twice on Saturdays. The best thing after the 5* and very high 4* guys are dudes with the potential to be beasts. I don't care if they are 1* dudes. Get enough upside into your program and the cream shall rise to the top. Let's judge the food after it comes out of the oven as a RS sophomore or junior. Fucking christ, it's not hard.BroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about.
Lance, I'm excited about your commitment. Go fuck up that weight room for a few years and let's do this shit. Woofdah.
You all caught up yet? @BroadcastingDawg told a UW player's dad that he or anyone else shouldn't be excited about a commit. Fuck that noise. Someone's gotta put this shit in its rightful place, which is at the bottom of a Honey Bucket. Me saying "The fuck is wrong with you?" really inspired you to rush to the defense of poor, defenseless @BroadcastingDawg ? I wish I had that kind of fan club. Must be awesome following him on tour. You ever have a threesome with his drummer?
You have a lot of defense to play in here if that's all it takes to get your panties in a twist. -
When you’re recruiting guys that need to develop, they are less likely to transfer IMOFireCohen said:
With the portal in play not so sure about that buffer buddyTequilla said:He’s got a lot of tools to work with provided that he is able to 1) put the weight in the weight room
that’s needed and 2) develops positionally on the practice field
He’s probably a RS year and a frosh year buried on the depth type of developmental prospect
It wouldn’t shock me if he turns out to be a really good player … this is what programs like TCU and other programs that I’d say are in the Top 20-40 range that have recruiting challenges (in TCUs case always fighting uphill in-state, vs Oklahoma, vs SEC for truly elite players)
The big question is whether Washington should be expecting to do better from a recruiting standpoint
This is a commit that over indexes on the developmental scale and seems to be the desired sweet spot for recruiting under Jimmy. He’s very clearly surrounded himself with coaches that specialize in coaching and development and in the process has largely excluded staff that specialize in recruiting
There’s obviously many ways to be successful so LIPO
It’s also important to note that with UW’s youth on the roster that there’s more of a buffer in place to play the development game -
Ariel Ngata closed out Utah for us, which lead to us closing out Utah at the end of the season for a fucking rose bowl birth.
Just because he didn't work out doesn't mean we don't need this type of athlete. -
Bralen Trice has already put on 35 lbs and been getting such rave practice reviews that there might actually be something to it.
Will be interesting to see if he actually pans out and if Holtzclaw could do something similar.
Trice wasn't quite as skinny but guys like that are always worth taking a chance on even if Ngata didn't pan out. -
Lol…rough?!?dOgmaster said:
I can read mother fucker! Yeah he replied to a commits dad. How the fuck is he expected to know that? That dad was told that this shit could get rough. He shouldn’t be treated any different. Broadcastingdawg’s post was fair and pretty soft for this board. I am so let down that no one else is standing up for him.CallMeBigErn said:dOgmaster said:
Dude, who the fuck are you to be telling what they can think? Disagreeing is fine, but blasting people is bullshit. If your dick was longer than 3 inches I would tell you to go fuck yourself. Its clear you have a hard on for this high school kid, maybe you should talk about that.CallMeBigErn said:
You gone and triggered Ern now. What is the reason for even saying this? The fuck is wrong with you? This is a dude we targeted, had offers from good programs, has a huge athletic ceiling, turned heads in camps as a WR, comes from a huge recruiting hotbed out of state, is known as The Claw, has the middle name "Showtime", and he chose to be a DAWG because he's ready to be developed. Since you're clearly disappointed and blinded by the 3* behind his name, you should jerk yourself off by knowing that he's an easy 4* with 25 more pounds on him. That's what Socha, red meat, whole milk, and a few trips around the sun are for. Let's not forget that stars are subjective and hardly based on long-term potential. Stars are largely a function of what scouts see from the stands/clips, when they see them, how often they see them, immediate playing potential, the team surrounding a player, the team they're playing against, and if the scout is constipated or not. I'll take a 3* with huge upside over maxed out 4* dude every time. The Claw is not playing for several years. We don't NEED him to be playing for several years. I always get excited about these long-term upside investments (Trice, Heims, Spears, Wyrsch, etc). Recruiting upside is far more important to me than anything. Of course Ariel Ngata naturally gets thrown out immediately as a cherry-picked example of a skinny dude who didn't develop. Fuck that shit. No shit, Sherlocks, he may not develop. He could get killed walking his doggie. That goes for everyone. I'll take The Claw's high ceiling every day and twice on Saturdays. The best thing after the 5* and very high 4* guys are dudes with the potential to be beasts. I don't care if they are 1* dudes. Get enough upside into your program and the cream shall rise to the top. Let's judge the food after it comes out of the oven as a RS sophomore or junior. Fucking christ, it's not hard.BroadcastingDawg said:
This the shit you read on Coug boards...PapaBrailsford said:
Fast, athletic, tall, and long. I believe he is being recruited to play OLB. He will need to gain about 30-45 lbs., but once he does he should be an excellent pass rusher and still have the speed and athleticism to cover TEs.DoogerMcFarland said:For those of us that don't know how to analyze film, what's the scouting report?
I'm not upset about the signing... but these shouldn't be the guys we're excited about.
Lance, I'm excited about your commitment. Go fuck up that weight room for a few years and let's do this shit. Woofdah.
You all caught up yet? @BroadcastingDawg told a UW player's dad that he or anyone else shouldn't be excited about a commit. Fuck that noise. Someone's gotta put this shit in its rightful place, which is at the bottom of a Honey Bucket. Me saying "The fuck is wrong with you?" really inspired you to rush to the defense of poor, defenseless @BroadcastingDawg ? I wish I had that kind of fan club. Must be awesome following him on tour. You ever have a threesome with his drummer?
You have a lot of defense to play in here if that's all it takes to get your panties in a twist.
Afghanistan, at times, was rough. SFAS was rough. This is just an anonymous ignorant guy running his mouth. That’s not rough, not in my book.
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We finally found a replacement for Feeney!Bonedog said:Damn if he don’t remind me of Travis Feeney.
