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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    What channel is the Blazer game on? Is it on HD?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,392 Standard Supporter

    Dame will look great in a Knicks uniform.

    The knicks roster would sucks balls and solve nothing for dame. Puts him in a weaker conference I guess but they can’t offer anything to get a superstar player.
    If they got Dame, other stars would be more enticed to go there.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Dame will look great in a Knicks uniform.

    The knicks roster would sucks balls and solve nothing for dame. Puts him in a weaker conference I guess but they can’t offer anything to get a superstar player.
    If they got Dame, other stars would be more enticed to go there.
    Dame lost to Nigeria.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,527 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    Dame will look great in a Knicks uniform.

    The knicks roster would sucks balls and solve nothing for dame. Puts him in a weaker conference I guess but they can’t offer anything to get a superstar player.
    If they got Dame, other stars would be more enticed to go there.
    Dame lost to Nigeria.
    Embarrassing
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club
    edited July 2021
    I get that Portland fucked up the roster and that is the biggest issue, but I'm not sure that Lillard's game isn't partly to blame.

    He is an elite player, but his game doesn't seem to elevate others around him. I can't explain it fully, but there's a huge difference watching him and guys like Steph and Luka. Those guys probably get everyone else involved a lot more and get the dedication needed on defense. Additionally defenses in the playoffs know most of the time he's just going slash or stop and jack up a half court 3. It's kind of weird that he just expected to beat that Denver team that still had three all star caliber players to Portland's two (although I think Nurk is a star just too moody/injury prone).

    The best game I've ever seen out of this Portland roster was 3 or so seasons ago when they beat the Warriors at Oracle during their historic season, a regular season game but in the last month or so when teams are ramping up for the playoffs. And the offense went through Nurk, he abused their center in the paint and passed the ball as well as every big in the league except Jokic, and then shots opened up for Dame and he was more of a complimentary piece. But Stotts won't run the team like that with 2 max guards, and I doubt Billups will either.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,728 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    I get that Portland fucked up the roster and that is the biggest issue, but I'm not sure that Lillard's game isn't partly to blame.

    He is an elite player, but his game doesn't seem to elevate others around him. I can't explain it fully, but there's a huge difference watching him and guys like Steph and Luka. Those guys probably get everyone else involved a lot more and get the dedication needed on defense. Additionally defenses in the playoffs know most of the time he's just going slash or stop and jack up a half court 3. It's kind of weird that he just expected to beat that Denver team that still had three all star caliber players to Portland's two (although I think Nurk is a star just too moody/injury prone).

    The best game I've ever seen out of this Portland roster was 3 or so seasons ago when they beat the Warriors at Oracle during their historic season, a regular season game but in the last month or so when teams are ramping up for the playoffs. And the offense went through Nurk, he abused their center in the paint and passed the ball as well as every big in the league except Jokic, and then shots opened up for Dame and he was more of a complimentary piece. But Stotts won't run the team like that with 2 max guards, and I doubt Billups will either.

    Lillard is a second option on a real contender.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club

    haie said:

    I get that Portland fucked up the roster and that is the biggest issue, but I'm not sure that Lillard's game isn't partly to blame.

    He is an elite player, but his game doesn't seem to elevate others around him. I can't explain it fully, but there's a huge difference watching him and guys like Steph and Luka. Those guys probably get everyone else involved a lot more and get the dedication needed on defense. Additionally defenses in the playoffs know most of the time he's just going slash or stop and jack up a half court 3. It's kind of weird that he just expected to beat that Denver team that still had three all star caliber players to Portland's two (although I think Nurk is a star just too moody/injury prone).

    The best game I've ever seen out of this Portland roster was 3 or so seasons ago when they beat the Warriors at Oracle during their historic season, a regular season game but in the last month or so when teams are ramping up for the playoffs. And the offense went through Nurk, he abused their center in the paint and passed the ball as well as every big in the league except Jokic, and then shots opened up for Dame and he was more of a complimentary piece. But Stotts won't run the team like that with 2 max guards, and I doubt Billups will either.

    Lillard is a second option on a real contender.
    He's definitely elite, top 6 player, there's too many differences between him and a pretender/accumulator. He nearly won a playoff game by himself, over matched. Portland only wins game 7 in 2019 because Denver was 100% focused on him and CJ eviscerated them mid range.

    But like so many, he can't do it by himself and CJ doesn't compliment him at all.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    haie said:

    I get that Portland fucked up the roster and that is the biggest issue, but I'm not sure that Lillard's game isn't partly to blame.

    He is an elite player, but his game doesn't seem to elevate others around him. I can't explain it fully, but there's a huge difference watching him and guys like Steph and Luka. Those guys probably get everyone else involved a lot more and get the dedication needed on defense. Additionally defenses in the playoffs know most of the time he's just going slash or stop and jack up a half court 3. It's kind of weird that he just expected to beat that Denver team that still had three all star caliber players to Portland's two (although I think Nurk is a star just too moody/injury prone).

    The best game I've ever seen out of this Portland roster was 3 or so seasons ago when they beat the Warriors at Oracle during their historic season, a regular season game but in the last month or so when teams are ramping up for the playoffs. And the offense went through Nurk, he abused their center in the paint and passed the ball as well as every big in the league except Jokic, and then shots opened up for Dame and he was more of a complimentary piece. But Stotts won't run the team like that with 2 max guards, and I doubt Billups will either.

    Other than having the weakest hands, slowest foot speed and worst endurance of any Center in the league, Nurks great. Max him out.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,429 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    haie said:

    I get that Portland fucked up the roster and that is the biggest issue, but I'm not sure that Lillard's game isn't partly to blame.

    He is an elite player, but his game doesn't seem to elevate others around him. I can't explain it fully, but there's a huge difference watching him and guys like Steph and Luka. Those guys probably get everyone else involved a lot more and get the dedication needed on defense. Additionally defenses in the playoffs know most of the time he's just going slash or stop and jack up a half court 3. It's kind of weird that he just expected to beat that Denver team that still had three all star caliber players to Portland's two (although I think Nurk is a star just too moody/injury prone).

    The best game I've ever seen out of this Portland roster was 3 or so seasons ago when they beat the Warriors at Oracle during their historic season, a regular season game but in the last month or so when teams are ramping up for the playoffs. And the offense went through Nurk, he abused their center in the paint and passed the ball as well as every big in the league except Jokic, and then shots opened up for Dame and he was more of a complimentary piece. But Stotts won't run the team like that with 2 max guards, and I doubt Billups will either.

    Other than having the weakest hands, slowest foot speed and worst endurance of any Center in the league, Nurks great. Max him out.
    You don't have to max him out, but don't pay him like the 3rd best player and then never use him to his strengths. He does need to improve but it's not like passing centers like that are easy to find.

    Otherwise you're always just going to be a team that hopes your two guards don't get cold during a series, which one of them did this year and that was the difference.