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CAITLYN JENNER If You're a Biological Boy ... YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN GIRLS' SPORTS
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Man and woman or man and man or woman and womanTheKobeStopper said:
And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.Pitchfork51 said:
They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally illTheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
I was right
Marriage has nothing to do with junk science about your junk
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That “opinion blog” links to more than 20 scientific studies.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
an opinion blogTheKobeStopper said:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Show me the reputable science behind it, not fake social justice scienceTheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
This is a good article.
Some highlights-
Nearly everyone in middle school biology learned that if you’ve got XX chromosomes, you’re a female; if you’ve got XY, you’re a male. This tired simplification is great for teaching the importance of chromosomes but betrays the true nature of biological sex. The popular belief that your sex arises only from your chromosomal makeup is wrong. The truth is, your biological sex isn’t carved in stone, but a living system with the potential for change.
When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain.
Furthermore, measurements of sex hormones levels in any one individual wildly vary across the range of “average” values regardless of how close or spread apart you take the measurements. The binary sex model not only insufficiently predicts the presence of hormones but is useless in describing factors that influence them.
Environmental, social and behavioral factors also influence hormones in both males and females, complicating the idea that hormones determine sex.
While this is a small overview, the science is clear and conclusive: sex is not binary, transgender people are real.
Earlier in the thread I referred to the science being unclear, that was in regards to athletic performance. If that’s the science you’d like to see, I’d be happy to supply it but, as I said, it’s unclear. I guessed you meant the more broad transgender science.
It's pretty simple.
You have a dick, or a pussy, or you're some hermaphrodite
Some mentally ill types want to add or subtract parts because of some unknown brain defect. It's probably a combination of environmental factors and what they were born with.
What if it just wasn’t that simple? What would be so bad about that? -
Just lol down and you'll know what you're supposed to be.TheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
Oh sorry you'll probably have trouble with simplistic approach. -
It’s an apt comparison because marriage and gender are both social constructs. Social constructs evolve and change. If you think marriage hasn’t changed at all, I suggest you take that up with your right wing buddies who still don’t support it.RaceBannon said:
Man and woman or man and man or woman and womanTheKobeStopper said:
And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.Pitchfork51 said:
They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally illTheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
I was right
Marriage has nothing to do with junk science about your junk
Science isn’t junk because it’s different than what you were taught in 2nd grade, 70 fucking years ago. -
Those two things are completely unrelated.TheKobeStopper said:
And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.Pitchfork51 said:
They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally illTheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
I'm super for gay marriage. Dudes want to doom themselves be my guest. -
Gender is not a social construct.TheKobeStopper said:
It’s an apt comparison because marriage and gender are both social constructs. Social constructs evolve and change. If you think marriage hasn’t changed at all, I suggest you take that up with your right wing buddies who still don’t support it.RaceBannon said:
Man and woman or man and man or woman and womanTheKobeStopper said:
And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.Pitchfork51 said:
They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally illTheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
I was right
Marriage has nothing to do with junk science about your junk
Science isn’t junk because it’s different than what you were taught in 2nd grade, 70 fucking years ago. -
Unsurprisingly you're a fucking liar. I'm much older than you and and went to a public school in Oregon and wasn't taught any of those things. There is no way you were "taught" any of that.TheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4. -
Gender isn't a social construct but it's hardly shocking that a dumb fuck who feels evolution has nothing to do with genetics would feel that way.TheKobeStopper said:
And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.Pitchfork51 said:
They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally illTheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4. -
Think how fucking stupid you have to be in order to think who a society recognizes in order to allow for them to be married is the same as what biological sex someone is.TheKobeStopper said:
And marriage was between a man and a woman, until it wasn’t. Things change. Not mathematic equations but social constructs like gender and marriage.Pitchfork51 said:
They aren't. You're either a boy or a girl. And if you can't figure it out you are mentally illTheKobeStopper said:
Surprisingly, sex and gender are more complex than the simplest mathematical equations.SFGbob said:
Yes, yes, you grew up thinking 2+2 equaled 4. You're just too old to realize that it really equals 5 or 6 or whatever I say it equals.TheKobeStopper said:
That pretty much sums it up. You think science is something you intuitively know. That because you grew up with things a certain way, that must be the correct way.RaceBannon said:
I'm on the side of science. I don't think it I know itTheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
If there weren't people trying to get boys in girls sports it wouldn't be an issue at all
Totally one sided where this comes from. Live and let live isn't good enough.
You knew old people like this when you were younger. You’re just one of them now.
I was taught that George Washington could not tell a lie and told his dad he cut down the cherry tree. That the Indians and Pilgrims had a nice pleasant meal and nothing else happened. That the civil war was about “states rights”.
Turns out, none of those are true and 2 + 2 still equals 4.
If Society changes to the point that it allows people to marry their sister, is the person they married no longer their sister you fucking moron? -
My guess is you don't know what you're talking about.TheKobeStopper said:
The polls are all over the place and the science isn’t clear. It seems like a no brainer to you because you think saying “boys have a penis” is peak science.RaceBannon said:
POTUS has made it a centerpiece of his administrationthechatch said:We have special olympics for developmentally challenged adults we can have the same for alternative genders. It ain’t hard. Create a governing body and go look for TV time and corporate sponsors. If you have a product that people want to see, a market will be created and you’ll make a fortune on the bottom floor.
If not, we’ll all know AGAIN that this was a stupid fucking thing to go to the mattresses over in the first place.
Surrender or fight. That's the option as always
The left would prefer that folks just surrender
This issue is a no brainer yet most of the GOP are recoiled in fear as they like to do
My guess is this fizzles out when kids go back to school and suburban moms realize there aren’t any trans girls competing against their daughters. There just aren’t enough trans people for your ruse to work.
