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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,791 Standard Supporter
    It's fucking insane. Little tiny shitty houses going for $400K.

    Spokane isn't quite as bad but close. Somewhere between 10 and 30 offers coming in on every house up for sale. Had heard horror stories of $200K houses getting bid up $100K.

  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    The Median US home price recently hit $320,000 according to Redfin. A new record.

    The median household income in the US is about 68k/year.

    I’m a good capitalist as much as the other members of @creepycoug’s club, but this trajectory really frightens me.

    Having houses in Eastern WA or Idaho being half a mil is nuts.

    But here we are.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380

    The Median US home price recently hit $320,000 according to Redfin. A new record.

    The median household income in the US is about 68k/year.

    I’m a good capitalist as much as the other members of @creepycoug’s club, but this trajectory really frightens me.

    Having houses in Eastern WA or Idaho being half a mil is nuts.

    But here we are.

    That's because you have a brain and realize it's unsustainable. At least, that's what @HoustonHusky would say.

    A las, when property runs like that and it's near a lot of wealth-generating activity - hate it if you will, Seattle is one such place - then there is something to consider. People want to be in the greater Seattle area regardless of what the Tug bros wish was the case.

    But when shit like this is happening in places people are just "running to", I think there is more risk. There are other bubbles too. Miami beach was a bubble in 2007 & 2008. It got frothy "just because", and then the froth was built on froth, and that was built on yet more froth, and then people started saying, "Ok, it's nice, but what the fuck else you gonna do here?" It's not like buying a $1,000,000 house 25 blocks from Expedia HQ. That kind of thing is risky bisky. Mark down that I said that and watch what happens when rates click back up to the 4s and 5s. Some markets will have people with the money to keep buying and financing; others will blow up.

    @Pawz is our man here.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380

    The Median US home price recently hit $320,000 according to Redfin. A new record.

    The median household income in the US is about 68k/year.

    I’m a good capitalist as much as the other members of @creepycoug’s club, but this trajectory really frightens me.

    Having houses in Eastern WA or Idaho being half a mil is nuts.

    But here we are.

    That's because you have a brain and realize it's unsustainable. At least, that's what @HoustonHusky would say.

    A las, when property runs like that and it's near a lot of wealth-generating activity - hate it if you will, Seattle is one such place - then there is something to consider. People want to be in the greater Seattle area regardless of what the Tug bros wish was the case.

    But when shit like this is happening in places people are just "running to", I think there is more risk. There are other bubbles too. Miami beach was a bubble in 2007 & 2008. It got frothy "just because", and then the froth was built on froth, and that was built on yet more froth, and then people started saying, "Ok, it's nice, but what the fuck else you gonna do here?" It's not like buying a $1,000,000 house 25 blocks from Expedia HQ. That kind of thing is risky bisky. Mark down that I said that and watch what happens when rates click back up to the 4s and 5s. Some markets will have people with the money to keep buying and financing; others will blow up.

    @Pawz is our man here.
    And I like CDA, btw. But at some point, when whatever trend is trending it to the moon has passed, I wonder what will happen when everyone stands around and looks at each other and remembers they're in Idaho. Some special places have staying power ... e.g. Bozeman, MT. Some don't.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021

    The Median US home price recently hit $320,000 according to Redfin. A new record.

    The median household income in the US is about 68k/year.

    I’m a good capitalist as much as the other members of @creepycoug’s club, but this trajectory really frightens me.

    Having houses in Eastern WA or Idaho being half a mil is nuts.

    But here we are.

    That's because you have a brain and realize it's unsustainable. At least, that's what @HoustonHusky would say.

    A las, when property runs like that and it's near a lot of wealth-generating activity - hate it if you will, Seattle is one such place - then there is something to consider. People want to be in the greater Seattle area regardless of what the Tug bros wish was the case.

    But when shit like this is happening in places people are just "running to", I think there is more risk. There are other bubbles too. Miami beach was a bubble in 2007 & 2008. It got frothy "just because", and then the froth was built on froth, and that was built on yet more froth, and then people started saying, "Ok, it's nice, but what the fuck else you gonna do here?" It's not like buying a $1,000,000 house 25 blocks from Expedia HQ. That kind of thing is risky bisky. Mark down that I said that and watch what happens when rates click back up to the 4s and 5s. Some markets will have people with the money to keep buying and financing; others will blow up.

    @Pawz is our man here.
    Thumbs up, but I’d add I don’t see how rates get back up to 4 or 5% because the whole system blows up if/when it happens..the govt can’t print that much money for interest payments and most of the housing markets will crash.

    It will get eventually get ugly, but still think we are on the early part of the Fed crack bender...think it will get really wacky before whatever reset happens.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,249 Standard Supporter

    The Median US home price recently hit $320,000 according to Redfin. A new record.

    The median household income in the US is about 68k/year.

    I’m a good capitalist as much as the other members of @creepycoug’s club, but this trajectory really frightens me.

    Having houses in Eastern WA or Idaho being half a mil is nuts.

    But here we are.

    That's because you have a brain and realize it's unsustainable. At least, that's what @HoustonHusky would say.

    A las, when property runs like that and it's near a lot of wealth-generating activity - hate it if you will, Seattle is one such place - then there is something to consider. People want to be in the greater Seattle area regardless of what the Tug bros wish was the case.

    But when shit like this is happening in places people are just "running to", I think there is more risk. There are other bubbles too. Miami beach was a bubble in 2007 & 2008. It got frothy "just because", and then the froth was built on froth, and that was built on yet more froth, and then people started saying, "Ok, it's nice, but what the fuck else you gonna do here?" It's not like buying a $1,000,000 house 25 blocks from Expedia HQ. That kind of thing is risky bisky. Mark down that I said that and watch what happens when rates click back up to the 4s and 5s. Some markets will have people with the money to keep buying and financing; others will blow up.

    @Pawz is our man here.
    yeah, soy boys and fugly muff divers
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,021
    I don’t think people quite realize the evolution coming...we are moving back to the 70s in several ways. One will be that the cities are going to return to being shiteholes again...there will be a fleeing for the ‘burbs/sane areas in the next couple of years...we are just on the front end of the curve now.

    Look at the Seattle Police Department...everyone there is fleeing. It won’t be instantaneous, but crime and general undesirable living conditions will follow and with that the $$$ will leave even faster which will have a cascading impact. The state govt will bail them out for a while but it won’t be a long-term fix.