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ASJ says weight, not DUI, affected his last UW season
unfrozencaveman
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Condooga doing the heavy lifting tonight, Jood MIA
http://seattletimes.com/html/huskies/2022957473_nflcombine21xml.html
“Little did I know it (blocking) had little to do with weight. It had to do with technique" He's back down to 260-265
http://seattletimes.com/html/huskies/2022957473_nflcombine21xml.html
“Little did I know it (blocking) had little to do with weight. It had to do with technique" He's back down to 260-265
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Kasen has been a way better big game player than ASJ despite most doogs thinking ASJ was superior. Kasen was the only offensive player to show up in 2011 against Oregon, he played great against Stanford in 2012 and 2013, he made a huge catch on the final drive against Oregon State in 2012. ASJ's best games were against Cal and Colorado. I'm hijacking the thread, but I'm looking forward to Kasen finally getting used properly by Peterman. Hopefully he comes back healthy and he isn't hampered by the injury.
Keep in mind there are 190 lb corners on this team who could woop ASJ ' S ass. Flashback to Erie Cowell And Cam Cleeland. These guys would have beat the shit out of anybody on the entire roster (not including Olin Kreutz, he would have beat the shit out of Empterman). Please get the point. We took 2, 6-6 265lb TE's, the best in the country at their positions out of high school, and turned them into a soft 265lb WNBA centers. Imagine if ASJ played under Lambo? He'd be of the first 15 picks. Does Sark owe ASJ an apology or is he just the second coming of Middleton. Either way they're both fat fucks who didnt realize their potential.
Big games (teams ranked at the time - if anyone cares to do the research to add teams who finish ranked feel free, I'm not that invested)
2011
@ Nebraska: (both sucked) ASJ had 1 for 15, Kasen 2 for 24; push
Stanford: ASJ 5 for 77, KW 2 for 18; edge ASJ
@ Oregon: ASJ 1 for -6, KW 6 for 79 TD; edge KW
Baylor: ASJ 4 for 62, KW 3 for 19; edge ASJ
Totals: ASJ 11 for 148, KW 13 for 140 TD. Slight edge to KW, though ASJ outplayed him more often than Kasen outplayed ASJ.
ASJ 2 better games, KW 1 better game, 1 push
2012
@LSU: ASJ 6 for 51, KW 3 for 19; edge ASJ
Stanford: ASJ 2 for 10, KW 10 for 129 TD; edge KW
Oregon: ASJ 2 for 33, KW 6 for 48; edge KW
USC: ASJ 5 for 83 TD, KW 2 for 22 TD; edge ASJ
Oregon State: 3 for 31 , KW 5 for 61; edge KW
Boise: ASJ 6 for 61 TD, KW 6 for 95; push
Totals: ASJ 24 for 269 2 TDs, KW 32 for 374, 2 TDs - Definite edge to KW
ASJ 2 better games, KW 3 better games, 1 push
2013
Boise: ASJ DNP, KW 3 for 68 TD; n/a
Stanford: ASJ 4 for 58; KW 5 for 89; edge KW
Oregon: ASJ 2 for 36 TD; KW 3 for 30; edge ASJ
UCLA: ASJ 4 for 22 TD; KW DNP; n/a
Totals ASJ 10 for 116 2 TDs, KW 11 for 187 TD - slight edge to KW (depending on how much weight you place on TD's)
ASJ 1 better game, KW 1 better game, 1 DNP each
Overall *big game* totals:
ASJ 45 for 533 4 TDs, 5 better games
KW 56 for 701 4 TDs, 5 better games
Kasen was a better home run threat to have a *big* game in a big game, but they were a complete coin flip as to which of them would have the better game going in. Honestly, after looking at it both were a disappointment. That's a 13 game sample for each of them, or essentially a full season of big games. On a per game basis it breaks down to 3.5 receptions for 41 yards and 0.3 TDs per big game for ASJ and 4.3 receptions for 53.9 yards and 0.3 TDs for KW. So Kasen was good for an extra 0.8 of a reception and 12.9 yards, and no more TDs. That doesn't constitute "way better" to me. Even if you throw out the Nebraska game because they were still so young it doesn't get much better. In an offense as pass happy as UW, you need better big game production out of your playmakers.
And of course, that's before even getting into the idea that we're comparing the stats of a tight end straight up with the stats of a wide receiver. I'd imagine #1 WRs are going to significantly outstat #1 TEs in almost every instance by quite a ways.
The real question is how much of this failure is on ASJ/KW, how much is on the OL, how much is on Price, and how much is on Sarkzetto. I suppose the answer is abundance.
I would omit some of your games like 2011 Stanford, 2012 LSU, and 2012 Oregon because what they did was basically irrelevant in those games. I see why you included them as big games, but they were all plungers. They could have been Randy Moss and Tony Gonzalez and we still would have lost all of those games.
Your last paragraph is spot on. I feel like these guys should have had better careers. At least Kasen has a year left.
I know you doubt ASJ, and I'm sure your info on him is right. I still believe in his talent though, and think he'll have a solid NFL career as an average starter at TE (think Martellus Bennett type decent but not special). IMO, that's much, much better than what Kasen will do at the next level.
Some of is Sark,s infatuation with the bubble screen and he decided it would be cute for Kasen to block for Mickens. Some of.it is kAsen not getting separation.
Kasen, OTOH, does everything else better than Kearse - he's more physical, better after the catch, and has better hands. He's just never open. Maybe that will improve with a more diverse and less predictable route tree, but I have a hard time believing a guy who can't separate in college is going to get open in the league. I didn't mean to say he's not an NFL player - I think he'll be drafted and make a team - but I don't see him as a league average starter, which is what I think ASJ will be. I see KW as more like a good 4th/okay 3rd receiver type. If he goes to the right offense that uses him perfectly, he could maybe be better than that. I could see him doing pretty well in a place like Detroit where his speed plays up on the turf, the defense is overly concerned about #81 and they like to throw, throw, throw. But I think the number of teams that Kasen fits on is a lot lower than the number ASJ fits on.