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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Oof. That’s bad by me.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    *drivel

    @TheKobeStopper is used to it dribbling off his chin
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    *drivel

    Shut up and drivel
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    Hey Idiot and your butt-buddy @dflea:

    609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
    Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
    (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or
    (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).

    So the question is, @GreenRiverGatorz and @dflea, my always-pressing inferior, How does my ass taste?
    He was charged with second degree unintentional murder, you stupid fucking faggot. Explain how that requires intent, being how it's UNINTENTIONAL. Tell it to the state of Minnesota if you don't like it, idiot - it isn't my fucking law.

    Get the fuck outta here, teacher's kid. Go eat your own ass, retard.

    There's no such thing as "2nd Degree Unintentional Murder" in MN.

    But don't let that stop you and your fanboys @dflea.

    That's what I'd expect of your frantic 40 minute circle-jerk with your boys.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
    Looks like one of the Trump Dick Suckers gang got triggered.

    LOL

    If you don't understand why 2nd degree murder is still murder maybe you can go Ask Jeeves?
    Um, "intent" was the issue. Try to keep up. Or not.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
    Foster Law School graduate heard from claiming other people are doing what he just fucking did.
    Foster is the Business School.

    But, of course, how would you know that?
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,078

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
    Looks like one of the Trump Dick Suckers gang got triggered.

    LOL

    If you don't understand why 2nd degree murder is still murder maybe you can go Ask Jeeves?
    Um, "intent" was the issue. Try to keep up. Or not.
    That was your issue, because you had fallen behind. Better luck next time.

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited April 2021

    dflea said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
    Foster Law School graduate heard from claiming other people are doing what he just fucking did.
    Foster is the Business School.

    But, of course, how would you know that?
    lmao

    What a fucking clown you are. I know what Foster is, you fucking retard. I',m mocking you for thinking you're a lawyer.


    Pull your head out of your ass, pay attention to Subdivision 2, retard. And then go fuck yourself:


    609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
    Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
    (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).

    §Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
    (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,213
    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
    Foster Law School graduate heard from claiming other people are doing what he just fucking did.
    Foster is the Business School.

    But, of course, how would you know that?
    lmao

    What a fucking clown you are. I know what Foster is, you fucking retard. I',m mocking you for thinking you're a lawyer.


    Pull your head out of your ass, pay attention to Subdivision 2, retard. And then go fuck yourself:


    609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
    Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
    (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).

    §Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
    (1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or

    (2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order. As used in this clause, "order for protection" includes an order for protection issued under chapter 518B; a harassment restraining order issued under section 609.748; a court order setting conditions of pretrial release or conditions of a criminal sentence or juvenile court disposition; a restraining order issued in a marriage dissolution action; and any order issued by a court of another state or of the United States that is similar to any of these orders.
    So clearly the bolded is what Chauvin was being tried for under this provision

    This again is where I really do wonder about the concept of reasonable doubt and whether the order was satisfied.

    To convict on this, I think you'd have to show that Chauvin was acting in a manner inconsistent with his training. My understanding from listening to the news today prior to the verdict was that the defense made a fairly significant attempt to tie his actions with his training. If the actions were consistent with his training, then I think it's hard to say he "intentionally inflicted or attempted to inflict bodily harm" part of the provision. Maybe you argue the duration and the words of Floyd as crossing the line. I could see it going either way on that one.

    I do find it interesting that the penalty of up to 40 years is the same whether intentional or unintentional ... that just seems strange to me. Unintentional to me just screams manslaughter. And while I'm sure that there are reasons for it, getting multiple murder degree convictions AND a manslaughter conviction on the same singular event seems like piling on.