Petersen "looking to rebuild the culture" at Washington
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I've been away far too long and missed some quality discussions around here.DerekJohnson said:Can't we get back to talking about areolas the size of sand dollars?
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Petersen has never had a TE with ASJ's ability. He's a smart coach. He designs his offenses around the players he has to work with. ASJ would be featured if he was still here. I do agree that Peterman will find a way to work around it, and we have big WR's to help block in Kasen, String, and Daniels.DawgDaze71 said:Petersen's offense doesn't really feature the TE that much so I'm not sure that losing ASJ is going to be that much of an impact. The return of a healthy Williams may do the trick. It hasn't really donned on everyone but the offense is going to look very different. We're not going to see a team that relies on the TB to carry the ball 35 times a game like Sankey did for us. The QB that wins the starting position is going to be the guy that is accurate ..can sling the ball around a lot yet still get the TB off. A kid like Lavon Coleman should do well since he's a bruiser with speed.
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I think the opposite would happen. It would shape the team and make the rest of the 80+ scholarship players that much more stronger.sarktastic said:
Similar to every other middling team, with talent and experience holes, that hires an improvement at head coach bent on changing the culture.Global said:
What are your realistic expectations?sarktastic said:I was speaking to your unrealistic expectations, not something Sark may have said.
I expect some players doogs believe should be All-Americans based on their star value and press clippings, to get cut within the next 7 months as Peterman changes the culture, causing us to lose a game or two we probably should win.
They would realize play time is over and it's time to start treating like this a fucking job. -
When you shed talent, until you replace that talent, it's going to be tough to compete for a Pac North Championship... just like every other team that replaces a low performing coach.
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Yeah....see how well the team played in the bowl game? BYU was the 2nd best bowl opponent (according to the metrics) for the pac-12.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think the opposite would happen. It would shape the team and make the rest of the 80+ scholarship players that much more stronger.sarktastic said:
Similar to every other middling team, with talent and experience holes, that hires an improvement at head coach bent on changing the culture.Global said:
What are your realistic expectations?sarktastic said:I was speaking to your unrealistic expectations, not something Sark may have said.
I expect some players doogs believe should be All-Americans based on their star value and press clippings, to get cut within the next 7 months as Peterman changes the culture, causing us to lose a game or two we probably should win.
They would realize play time is over and it's time to start treating like this a fucking job.
Let's hope they have that mindset for the 2014 season. -
I hate Sark and he did underachieve, but going 9-4 with all 4 losses to top 25 teams is not really low performing. The talent is there, but the team underachieved. Of course, it will be hard to win a Pac North Championship. It's always going to be hard, but we should compete for it right away. Oregon hasn't won the North 2 years in a row despite being a top 10 year.sarktastic said:When you shed talent, until you replace that talent, it's going to be tough to compete for a Pac North Championship... just like every other team that replaces a low performing coach.
Not that we are Ohio State, but Urban Meyer came in after a 6-6 season and went 12-0. Ohio State had talent. UW has talent. Now, we have the coach that can hopefully maximize the talent as take us to the next level. It's not rare for teams to get better after hiring a new coach. UCLA got much better going from Rick to Mora.
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So you look at this schedule and see 8-5, because Peterson needs to change the culture?sarktastic said:
Similar to every other middling team, with talent and experience holes, that hires an improvement at head coach bent on changing the culture.Global said:
What are your realistic expectations?sarktastic said:I was speaking to your unrealistic expectations, not something Sark may have said.
I expect some players doogs believe should be All-Americans based on their star value and press clippings, to get cut within the next 7 months as Peterman changes the culture, causing us to lose a game or two we probably should win.
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No. He never sacked up and told us how many wins and losses we're supposed to have with our "middling" talent.Global said:
So you look at this schedule and see 8-5, because Peterson needs to change the culture?sarktastic said:
Similar to every other middling team, with talent and experience holes, that hires an improvement at head coach bent on changing the culture.Global said:
What are your realistic expectations?sarktastic said:I was speaking to your unrealistic expectations, not something Sark may have said.
I expect some players doogs believe should be All-Americans based on their star value and press clippings, to get cut within the next 7 months as Peterman changes the culture, causing us to lose a game or two we probably should win. -
Sark didn't win 9 games.RoadDawg55 said:
I hate Sark and he did underachieve, but going 9-4 with all 4 losses to top 25 teams is not really low performing. The talent is there, but the team underachieved. Of course, it will be hard to win a Pac North Championship. It's always going to be hard, but we should compete for it right away. Oregon hasn't won the North 2 years in a row despite being a top 10 year.sarktastic said:When you shed talent, until you replace that talent, it's going to be tough to compete for a Pac North Championship... just like every other team that replaces a low performing coach.
Not that we are Ohio State, but Urban Meyer came in after a 6-6 season and went 12-0. Ohio State had talent. UW has talent. Now, we have the coach that can hopefully maximize the talent as take us to the next level. It's not rare for teams to get better after hiring a new coach. UCLA got much better going from Rick to Mora.
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how about we just see who Peterson lines up with first before we go awarding his kick as presser another off season Natty?DawgDaze71 said:No. He never sacked up and told us how many wins and losses we're supposed to have with our "middling" talent.
Global said:
So you look at this schedule and see 8-5, because Peterson needs to change the culture?sarktastic said:
Similar to every other middling team, with talent and experience holes, that hires an improvement at head coach bent on changing the culture.Global said:
What are your realistic expectations?sarktastic said:I was speaking to your unrealistic expectations, not something Sark may have said.
I expect some players doogs believe should be All-Americans based on their star value and press clippings, to get cut within the next 7 months as Peterman changes the culture, causing us to lose a game or two we probably should win.
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I liked how Sanky, Price, ASJ played in the bowl game under Tui. I thought they were difference makers in the outcome of the game on offense... and Tui called a great game.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Yeah....see how well the team played in the bowl game? BYU was the 2nd best bowl opponent (according to the metrics) for the pac-12.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think the opposite would happen. It would shape the team and make the rest of the 80+ scholarship players that much more stronger.sarktastic said:
Similar to every other middling team, with talent and experience holes, that hires an improvement at head coach bent on changing the culture.Global said:
What are your realistic expectations?sarktastic said:I was speaking to your unrealistic expectations, not something Sark may have said.
I expect some players doogs believe should be All-Americans based on their star value and press clippings, to get cut within the next 7 months as Peterman changes the culture, causing us to lose a game or two we probably should win.
They would realize play time is over and it's time to start treating like this a fucking job.
Let's hope they have that mindset for the 2014 season.
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Petersen is taking over a 9 win team with the starting OL and the front 7 on D returning. 3 four star QB's, a stable of decent running backs, and very good weapons at WR. He should be able to win right away with these guys. Now, kindly fuck off.sarktastic said:
Sark didn't win 9 games.RoadDawg55 said:
I hate Sark and he did underachieve, but going 9-4 with all 4 losses to top 25 teams is not really low performing. The talent is there, but the team underachieved. Of course, it will be hard to win a Pac North Championship. It's always going to be hard, but we should compete for it right away. Oregon hasn't won the North 2 years in a row despite being a top 10 year.sarktastic said:When you shed talent, until you replace that talent, it's going to be tough to compete for a Pac North Championship... just like every other team that replaces a low performing coach.
Not that we are Ohio State, but Urban Meyer came in after a 6-6 season and went 12-0. Ohio State had talent. UW has talent. Now, we have the coach that can hopefully maximize the talent as take us to the next level. It's not rare for teams to get better after hiring a new coach. UCLA got much better going from Rick to Mora.
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Sark didn't win 9 games.RoadDawg55 said:
Petersen is taking over a 9 win team with the starting OL and the front 7 on D returning. 3 four star QB's, a stable of decent running backs, and very good weapons at WR. He should be able to win right away with these guys. Now, kindly fuck off.sarktastic said:
Sark didn't win 9 games.RoadDawg55 said:
I hate Sark and he did underachieve, but going 9-4 with all 4 losses to top 25 teams is not really low performing. The talent is there, but the team underachieved. Of course, it will be hard to win a Pac North Championship. It's always going to be hard, but we should compete for it right away. Oregon hasn't won the North 2 years in a row despite being a top 10 year.sarktastic said:When you shed talent, until you replace that talent, it's going to be tough to compete for a Pac North Championship... just like every other team that replaces a low performing coach.
Not that we are Ohio State, but Urban Meyer came in after a 6-6 season and went 12-0. Ohio State had talent. UW has talent. Now, we have the coach that can hopefully maximize the talent as take us to the next level. It's not rare for teams to get better after hiring a new coach. UCLA got much better going from Rick to Mora.
Peterman is focused on culture change.
He lost the starter at QB, RB and TE. Starting skill talent on it's way to the NFL over Kim's stars, sorry... and brand new coaches with a brand systems to boot. I'll predict a win total when we know who's lining up to play.
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So you are saying anytime a new coach comes in, he needs a few years to get his own guys in there? I think Section14A and JohnB said that when Sark and Ty were coach.sarktastic said:
Sark didn't win 9 games.RoadDawg55 said:
Petersen is taking over a 9 win team with the starting OL and the front 7 on D returning. 3 four star QB's, a stable of decent running backs, and very good weapons at WR. He should be able to win right away with these guys. Now, kindly fuck off.sarktastic said:
Sark didn't win 9 games.RoadDawg55 said:
I hate Sark and he did underachieve, but going 9-4 with all 4 losses to top 25 teams is not really low performing. The talent is there, but the team underachieved. Of course, it will be hard to win a Pac North Championship. It's always going to be hard, but we should compete for it right away. Oregon hasn't won the North 2 years in a row despite being a top 10 year.sarktastic said:When you shed talent, until you replace that talent, it's going to be tough to compete for a Pac North Championship... just like every other team that replaces a low performing coach.
Not that we are Ohio State, but Urban Meyer came in after a 6-6 season and went 12-0. Ohio State had talent. UW has talent. Now, we have the coach that can hopefully maximize the talent as take us to the next level. It's not rare for teams to get better after hiring a new coach. UCLA got much better going from Rick to Mora.
Peterman is focused on culture change.
He lost the starter at QB, RB and TE. Starting skill talent on it's way to the NFL over Kim's stars, sorry... and brand new coaches with a brand systems to boot. I'll predict a win total when we know who's lining up to play.
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if i dont see drive killing penalties, lawn mowing on the sideline while up 14 against Georgia state and back to back to back 3 and outs holding the ball for 57 seconds at a time, im going to have to stream USC games.
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Sarkastic has surpassed IMALOSER territory in this thread.
Literally sounding like IMALOSER and is just trolling for the sake of trolling. Only he isn't very good at it. -
yeah, but we have Ross, so it balances outGlobal said:I am a huge fan of redshirting. I agree with it being bypassed very selectively, but I would not have put in a guy like Shelton or Farria or Mathis, and for sure not a Kohler or any of the other OL/DL guys who had their RS year burned by Sark, not to mention guys like Kevin Smith.
Out of this class, only Budda Baker probably is someone who you'd have to play, and even then, I wish Coach Pete would RS him too, and build the team for the long run. Husky football would be so much stronger if he did. Maybe we lose one game more in 2014 because of it, but that is the new staff's first year, and we'd forget about it when we became more dominant in 2015/16/17/18 as a result.
On position moves, to support guys redshirting, I for sure would love to see Shirley tried at LB and Thompson at SS. It might not work, but it is worth a shot to put our experienced guys in positions of need, and that combination might help.
On O, there are fewer options to be creative, but doing something with Kendyl Taylor and Darrell Daniels makes sense in terms of position changes. With Kasen Williams not ready for spring, they can use that time for experimenting, and with a new coaching staff, everyone can get a fresh start. -
sarktastic said:
Somebody please show this punk how to find the roster on the Internet.RoadDawg55 said:
Sark didn't win 9 games.sarktastic said:
Petersen is taking over a 9 win team with the starting OL and the front 7 on D returning. 3 four star QB's, a stable of decent running backs, and very good weapons at WR. He should be able to win right away with these guys. Now, kindly fuck off.RoadDawg55 said:
Peterman is focused on culture change.
He lost the starter at QB, RB and TE. Starting skill talent on it's way to the NFL over Kim's stars, sorry... and brand new coaches with a brand systems to boot. I'll predict a win total when we know who's lining up to play. -
10 wins or GTFO... Stop being pussies
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Global said:
You do realize I'm extremely bullish on Peterman long term, right?sarktastic said:
Somebody please show this punk how to find the roster on the Internet.RoadDawg55 said:
Sark didn't win 9 games.sarktastic said:
Petersen is taking over a 9 win team with the starting OL and the front 7 on D returning. 3 four star QB's, a stable of decent running backs, and very good weapons at WR. He should be able to win right away with these guys. Now, kindly fuck off.RoadDawg55 said:
Peterman is focused on culture change.
He lost the starter at QB, RB and TE. Starting skill talent on it's way to the NFL over Kim's stars, sorry... and brand new coaches with a brand systems to boot. I'll predict a win total when we know who's lining up to play.
You realize my argument has to do with transition turmoil typically associated when a great coach with discipline replaces a dude brah wannaabe combined with the loss of the key skill players off last years roster, right?
But hey... I 'want' a natty now, so maybe I should just come around to your way of thinking... blind hope -
Remember Auburn went 3-9 prior to Malzhan taking over. Next season they are 14-2 and in the National Championship game. There's a reason why some HC are sought after. They can have an immediate impact on a team. We have the building blocks to make a Pac-12 Championship run. We've got 4 winnable OOC games to get acclimated and a HC that doesn't have training wheels on. We have coaches that recruit ...no recruiters that coach. I think we're ready be about that action boss.
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Look into it dumbfuck.
Malzahn won with his guys. Go check out those recruiting classes. 3-9 was a player strike. Coach got his ass run and their former OC returns -
Exactly.NeGgaPlEaSe said:10 wins or GTFO... Stop being pussies
The first four are j.v. games. Just a 10-3 reg. season only requires a 6-3 league finish. Anything less is total failure. -
A good HC wins with the talent he has regardless of whether they are "his" guys or not. I realize that teams quit on their coaches. USC quit on Kiffin but that really doesn't matter in the context of seasonal turn-arounds. Your thesis that we have a new HC and players and that is something to worry about is really anti-thetical to the real point. It doesn't matter really because given Petersen's record of success it's more likely the UW finds instant success just like Auburn did.sarktastic said:
Look into it dumbfuck.
Malzahn won with his guys. Go check out those recruiting classes. 3-9 was a player strike. Coach got his ass run and their former OC returns -
Dude, we don't have middling talent on this team. Petersen wouldn't come here to do a rebuild job. I love Price and Sankey and ASJ but consider: Price was shell-shocked so badly after last season I'd almost rather have Miles in there just for the sake of running with a purpose. ASJ is NFL-caliber obviously but he's fucking lazy; if his dumbass catches that ball at the end of the Stanford game (not the controversial play) we kick into OT at a minimum. And yes, Sankey is amazing but remember he could barely crack the lineup before Callier got hurt. We brought Petersen in to solve these 3 situations and I have confidence he will.
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The Dawg TB get bigger now. D.Wash has to be about 215. Coleman is probably 215-220. We'll be fine in the run game. Replacing Price will be difficult but after watching some BSU games I like how there's always an outlet guy. We shouldn't be giving up a lot of sacks.
2 weeks to Spring Practice. I cannot wait. -
What are you waiting for? You know you have dick for access.DawgDaze71 said:
2 weeks to Spring Practice. I cannot wait. -
haie said:
Dude, we don't have middling talent on this team. Petersen wouldn't come here to do a rebuild job. I love Price and Sankey and ASJ but consider: Price was shell-shocked so badly after last season I'd almost rather have Miles in there just for the sake of running with a purpose. ASJ is NFL-caliber obviously but he's fucking lazy; if his dumbass catches that ball at the end of the Stanford game (not the controversial play) we kick into OT at a minimum. And yes, Sankey is amazing but remember he could barely crack the lineup before Callier got hurt. We brought Petersen in to solve these 3 situations and I have confidence he will.
I forgot about that shit; too much cheap beer. That fucking pissed me off more than any other play this season.
Plays like that have defined the last decade+ of Huskieieiee football. Pre-season AA TE can't even catch the fucking ball. Pre-season Heisman Lockner can't even will his way to a win over BYU in the season opener.
Hopefully this bullshit ends under Peterman's iron fist.
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Gonna send in my Drones. I'll report back after I view the HD video they takeDoogles said:
What are you waiting for? You know you have dick for access.DawgDaze71 said:
2 weeks to Spring Practice. I cannot wait.
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