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NCAA Proposes Rule Changes to Slow Offenses. . .


Thoughts?

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfootball/2014/02/12/ncaa-proposes-rule-changes-to-slow-down-offenses/

"Under a new rule proposed by the NCAA, offenses that snap the ball too quickly would be penalized.

In what it says is an attempt to improve the safety of players in this era of Mach speed offenses, the NCAA Football Rules Committee has recommended a rules change that will allow defensive substitutions within the first 10 seconds of the 40-second play clock.

The offense that snaps the ball before the play clock hits 29 seconds would be assessed a 5-yard, delay-of-game penalty."

Comments

  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I am assuming if 10 seconds was left on the game clock then that would be an exception?
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    I am assuming if 10 seconds was left on the game clock then that would be an exception?

    I believe the word you are looking for is oversight. That would be an oversight.

  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    I believe the team with the ball (formerly known as on offense) will be penalized regardless of what happens when there are 9 seconds or less remaining in a half/game... since a game cannot end on a penalty I believe the first week's games will thus not end until ever. Should be a great season. NCAA gets it.
  • YouKnowIt
    YouKnowIt Member Posts: 545
    Game can't end on a Defensive Penalty ... you nit wit
    Meek said:

    I believe the team with the ball (formerly known as on offense) will be penalized regardless of what happens when there are 9 seconds or less remaining in a half/game... since a game cannot end on a penalty I believe the first week's games will thus not end until ever. Should be a great season. NCAA gets it.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Why in only the last 2 minutes it stops? Say Goodbye to late comebacks. Also, it fucking kills first down plays. Oregon never snaps the ball within 10 seconds of a play. But if they go by play clock, on first downs, the offense will have to wait for the ball to be set, then wait an additional 10 seconds to snap it. If that rule passes, the NFL will once again win a diehard back, because I will be through with college football.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Saban needs to be more worried about his ST than this bullshit.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    I'm sure the NCAA is prepared to release it's hard evidence that fast paced play results in more injuries. Outside of government if there is an organization anywhere with less credibility than the NCAA I'd like to know what it is.
  • 79smoothdawg
    79smoothdawg Member Posts: 721
    I don't think hurry up offenses cause injury. But I think this rule should be done. I think snapping the ball in such a whirl wind and getting 10+ yards because the other team couldn't get their alignments done correctly is bad football to watch and a direction I don't think is good for the game. Give the defense a chance to call out a strong side and align properly and use their hips.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    I don't think hurry up offenses cause injury. But I think this rule should be done. I think snapping the ball in such a whirl wind and getting 10+ yards because the other team couldn't get their alignments done correctly is bad football to watch and a direction I don't think is good for the game. Give the defense a chance to call out a strong side and align properly and use their hips.

    This. College football has become a dreckfest because of the offenses. Defenses are worried about lining up. Defense has become non existent except for the elite teams.

  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Why in only the last 2 minutes it stops? Say Goodbye to late comebacks. Also, it fucking kills first down plays. Oregon never snaps the ball within 10 seconds of a play. But if they go by play clock, on first downs, the offense will have to wait for the ball to be set, then wait an additional 10 seconds to snap it. If that rule passes, the NFL will once again win a diehard back, because I will be through with college football. Because Oregon will no longer have the competitive edge and won't be 11-1 every year.

  • PatHadenFS
    PatHadenFS Member Posts: 542

    I don't think hurry up offenses cause injury. But I think this rule should be done. I think snapping the ball in such a whirl wind and getting 10+ yards because the other team couldn't get their alignments done correctly is bad football to watch and a direction I don't think is good for the game. Give the defense a chance to call out a strong side and align properly and use their hips.

    If not this rule, then something needs done.

    Right now, "big time" college offenses are about catching the defense unprepared. Sark was smart enough to understand that all you need to do to earn the title 'offensive genius' was to snap the ball while the other team was still trying to figure out how many receivers are lined up.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    edited February 2014
    If this did get passed, it wouldn't even be very noticeable. As it said in the article, teams rarely snap the ball with 30 seconds left on the play clock. Most no huddle teams average 20-25 seconds between plays. Oregon averaged 23 seconds between plays in 2010, and had one play that was ran before the 10 second limit when someone charted all their plays in a game vs UCLA.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303362404575580273867540424
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    YouKnowIt said:

    Game can't end on a Defensive Penalty ... you nit wit

    Meek said:

    I believe the team with the ball (formerly known as on offense) will be penalized regardless of what happens when there are 9 seconds or less remaining in a half/game... since a game cannot end on a penalty I believe the first week's games will thus not end until ever. Should be a great season. NCAA gets it.

    personal attacks in the middle of the store? Jeez... why does this place all of a sudden seem like dawgman?
  • PatHadenFS
    PatHadenFS Member Posts: 542

    If this did get passed, it wouldn't even be very noticeable. As it said in the article, teams rarely snap the ball with 30 seconds left on the play clock. Most no huddle teams average 20-25 seconds between plays. Oregon averaged 23 seconds between plays in 2010, and had one play that was ran before the 10 second limit when someone charted all their plays in a game vs UCLA.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303362404575580273867540424

    Disagree.

    It's not the 10 seconds that's the major change. It's the fact that defenses are allowed substitutions.

    There's a reason that DickRod and other Pac12 coaches are whining. They know that they're exploiting defenses by not allowing them to put in pass rushers on 3rd down. They don't care one bit about whether the ball is snapped at 29 seconds or 32 seconds.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Teams don't have to snap it within 10 seconds to stop the defense from substitution. If the defense starts to sub, they snap it right away with no play called to get the penalty. Manning did this with the Colts a lot.

    So the proposed rule lets the defense know they have ten seconds to sub. The offense can't get right to the line and fake them out of a substitution
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    There sure are a lot of closeted Doogs in this thread.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    tracker said:

    I'm sure the NCAA is prepared to release it's hard evidence that fast paced play results in more injuries. Outside of government if there is an organization anywhere with less credibility than the NCAA I'd like to know what it is.

    Doogman.com?
    Got me on that one - well done...
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,305
    This rule might stop Oregon fans from booing injured players as loudly as they've been doing. :-$
  • 79smoothdawg
    79smoothdawg Member Posts: 721
    priapism said:

    This rule might stop Oregon fans from booing injured players as loudly as they've been doing. :-$

    Pictures or it never happend
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    There sure are a lot of closeted Doogs in this thread.

    Nick Saban must be an honorary doog. Talk about a sore loser. Dude can't handle the hurry up so he tries to kill it.

    I bet he succeeds, too.

    Nick Saban is a bad mofo.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    I never boo the players
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    You can call this the "we want to fuck over Oregon" rule. Or the "we're a bunch of whiny fucking cunts because we can't beat Auburn when we're entitled to do so just by showing up" rule.
  • LevelPar
    LevelPar Member Posts: 447

    Teams don't have to snap it within 10 seconds to stop the defense from substitution. If the defense starts to sub, they snap it right away with no play called to get the penalty. Manning did this with the Colts a lot.

    So the proposed rule lets the defense know they have ten seconds to sub. The offense can't get right to the line and fake them out of a substitution


    Cerebral analysis!
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The game has gone a little too far in the direction of giving advantages to the offense IMO.

    A defense should have every opportunity to make situational substitutions as the offense does.

    I don't see why taking out the "we're running to the line to prevent substitutions, if you sub we're going to snap it with no play to get a free 5 yards, and if you don't, we're going to stand around for 25 seconds before snapping it" is good for football.

    The proposed rule has some dreckfest in it ... but it's not necessarily in the wrong direction.

    I'm all for rules that take away the ability for those that like to exploit loopholes to be able to exploit young men.

    The game of football should boil down to your ability to have better skills and execution than the other team. Not the ability to quick snap people to death.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tequilla said:

    The game has gone a little too far in the direction of giving advantages to the offense IMO.

    A defense should have every opportunity to make situational substitutions as the offense does.

    I don't see why taking out the "we're running to the line to prevent substitutions, if you sub we're going to snap it with no play to get a free 5 yards, and if you don't, we're going to stand around for 25 seconds before snapping it" is good for football.

    The proposed rule has some dreckfest in it ... but it's not necessarily in the wrong direction.

    I'm all for rules that take away the ability for those that like to exploit loopholes to be able to exploit young men.

    The game of football should boil down to your ability to have better skills and execution than the other team. Not the ability to quick snap people to death.

    Hello there.

    If the offense substitutes, the defense is allowed to substitute also.

    Being in shape is a key skill of football.