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Yeah but you also can't pay a guy 75.00 and hour to screw lug nuts onto a Ford. Unions don't like too much balance.greenblood said:
You can't have sweat shop conditions either. There is a balance that needs to happen.Sledog said:
Ask GM who was required to keep non-working number of employees equal to 95% of the actual work force who were making 90% of their pay for staying home. We wonder why they go bankrupt?greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
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Ford needs to learn how to negotiate.Sledog said:
Yeah but you also can't pay a guy 75.00 and hour to screw lug nuts onto a Ford. Unions don't like too much balance.greenblood said:
You can't have sweat shop conditions either. There is a balance that needs to happen.Sledog said:
Ask GM who was required to keep non-working number of employees equal to 95% of the actual work force who were making 90% of their pay for staying home. We wonder why they go bankrupt?greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
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Good thing North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela stopped the theft. Labor has value based on supply and demand. Wonder why the Chamber of Commerce is for open borders? Wonder why Ceaser Chavez was for closed borders? And yet you leftards are still talking about the theft of labor while killing the private sector working citizen.TheKobeStopper said:
They went bankrupt because sales were falling like a rock when we hit a recession. The fact that maybe, possibly, they could have survived if only they could have closed plants with no worker compensation and been paying workers so little that they needed food stamps to survive is a shit argument.Sledog said:
Ask GM who was required to keep non-working number of employees equal to 95% of the actual work force who were making 90% of their pay for staying home. We wonder why they go bankrupt?greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
If only they could have completely fucked the workers maybe the great corporation wouldn’t have gone bankrupt, bootlicker. That’s one of capitalism’s dirty little secrets, the “efficiency” you all marvel at is simply stolen from the worker. -
It’s almost as if you have no business training at allTheKobeStopper said:
They went bankrupt because sales were falling like a rock when we hit a recession. The fact that maybe, possibly, they could have survived if only they could have closed plants with no worker compensation and been paying workers so little that they needed food stamps to survive is a shit argument.Sledog said:
Ask GM who was required to keep non-working number of employees equal to 95% of the actual work force who were making 90% of their pay for staying home. We wonder why they go bankrupt?greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
If only they could have completely fucked the workers maybe the great corporation wouldn’t have gone bankrupt, bootlicker. That’s one of capitalism’s dirty little secrets, the “efficiency” you all marvel at is simply stolen from the worker.
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It's worse - he is an indoctrinated commie who believes in the completely false premise of the labor theory of value. So, the Slobberer actually has a negative education.hardhat said:
It’s almost as if you have no business training at allTheKobeStopper said:
They went bankrupt because sales were falling like a rock when we hit a recession. The fact that maybe, possibly, they could have survived if only they could have closed plants with no worker compensation and been paying workers so little that they needed food stamps to survive is a shit argument.Sledog said:
Ask GM who was required to keep non-working number of employees equal to 95% of the actual work force who were making 90% of their pay for staying home. We wonder why they go bankrupt?greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
If only they could have completely fucked the workers maybe the great corporation wouldn’t have gone bankrupt, bootlicker. That’s one of capitalism’s dirty little secrets, the “efficiency” you all marvel at is simply stolen from the worker. -
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TKS dumber than Hondo? I mean you really have to work at that!
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If you’ve never held a job, it’s tough to contemplate anything other than the theoretical.hardhat said:
It’s almost as if you have no business training at allTheKobeStopper said:
They went bankrupt because sales were falling like a rock when we hit a recession. The fact that maybe, possibly, they could have survived if only they could have closed plants with no worker compensation and been paying workers so little that they needed food stamps to survive is a shit argument.Sledog said:
Ask GM who was required to keep non-working number of employees equal to 95% of the actual work force who were making 90% of their pay for staying home. We wonder why they go bankrupt?greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
If only they could have completely fucked the workers maybe the great corporation wouldn’t have gone bankrupt, bootlicker. That’s one of capitalism’s dirty little secrets, the “efficiency” you all marvel at is simply stolen from the worker. -
Surely you understand why unions go the seniority route? Merit is subjective in nearly all fields. You just end up with the guy who’s family knows the owner or is buddies with a manager or sucks up or is conniving getting the “merit” based raise.greenblood said:
It doesn't have to be completely adversarial. Base pay, sick leave, safety, health benefits, definitely are adversarial. Things like promotion based on merit vs seniority is one thing that doesn't need to be. Merit pay increases morale and workplace efficiency, because more productive workers actually get paid for their work.TheKobeStopper said:
You’re arguing that unions are great at doing their jobs. That’s it.greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
They’re not supposed to be efficient for the company, their job is to help the worker. It’s an adversarial relationship and without representation you get the richest people in the world employing people who need food stamps to live.
Socialists get shit for wanting a “utopia” but if you think businesses fairly apply merit based raises and promotions you are drunk on capitalist utopia.
This proposal strictly benefits the companies unless you have some magical way of determine merit that no one else has ever come up with. Workplace efficiency always benefits the company, morale is meaningless crap without the pay or benefits. -
CluelessTheKobeStopper said:
Surely you understand why unions go the seniority route? Merit is subjective in nearly all fields. You just end up with the guy who’s family knows the owner or is buddies with a manager or sucks up or is conniving getting the “merit” based raise.greenblood said:
It doesn't have to be completely adversarial. Base pay, sick leave, safety, health benefits, definitely are adversarial. Things like promotion based on merit vs seniority is one thing that doesn't need to be. Merit pay increases morale and workplace efficiency, because more productive workers actually get paid for their work.TheKobeStopper said:
You’re arguing that unions are great at doing their jobs. That’s it.greenblood said:Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.
They’re not supposed to be efficient for the company, their job is to help the worker. It’s an adversarial relationship and without representation you get the richest people in the world employing people who need food stamps to live.
Socialists get shit for wanting a “utopia” but if you think businesses fairly apply merit based raises and promotions you are drunk on capitalist utopia.
This proposal strictly benefits the companies unless you have some magical way of determine merit that no one else has ever come up with. Workplace efficiency always benefits the company, morale is meaningless crap without the pay or benefits.
Merit is easy to quantify
