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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,601
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    Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.

    You’re arguing that unions are great at doing their jobs. That’s it.

    They’re not supposed to be efficient for the company, their job is to help the worker. It’s an adversarial relationship and without representation you get the richest people in the world employing people who need food stamps to live.
    It doesn't have to be completely adversarial. Base pay, sick leave, safety, health benefits, definitely are adversarial. Things like promotion based on merit vs seniority is one thing that doesn't need to be. Merit pay increases morale and workplace efficiency, because more productive workers actually get paid for their work.
    Surely you understand why unions go the seniority route? Merit is subjective in nearly all fields. You just end up with the guy who’s family knows the owner or is buddies with a manager or sucks up or is conniving getting the “merit” based raise.

    Socialists get shit for wanting a “utopia” but if you think businesses fairly apply merit based raises and promotions you are drunk on capitalist utopia.

    This proposal strictly benefits the companies unless you have some magical way of determine merit that no one else has ever come up with. Workplace efficiency always benefits the company, morale is meaningless crap without the pay or benefits.
    It's pretty fair. You get a new job that pays more if you're good enough to convince someone you deserve it.
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    LesGrossmanLesGrossman Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,474
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    hardhat said:


    It’s almost as if you have no business training at all



    I don’t know what this is supposed to be...

    Well, I’m just trying to get ahead.

    Well, there’s just no way we can keep you on.

    I don’t even really work here!

    That’s what makes this so difficult.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,280
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    Union were great for improving wages, benefits, and workplace safety. However, most unions are inefficient, and rely too much on seniority and not enough on actual job performance, which in turn can set a company back, and in the long run hurt the employees.

    You’re arguing that unions are great at doing their jobs. That’s it.

    They’re not supposed to be efficient for the company, their job is to help the worker. It’s an adversarial relationship and without representation you get the richest people in the world employing people who need food stamps to live.
    It doesn't have to be completely adversarial. Base pay, sick leave, safety, health benefits, definitely are adversarial. Things like promotion based on merit vs seniority is one thing that doesn't need to be. Merit pay increases morale and workplace efficiency, because more productive workers actually get paid for their work.
    Surely you understand why unions go the seniority route? Merit is subjective in nearly all fields. You just end up with the guy who’s family knows the owner or is buddies with a manager or sucks up or is conniving getting the “merit” based raise.

    Socialists get shit for wanting a “utopia” but if you think businesses fairly apply merit based raises and promotions you are drunk on capitalist utopia.

    This proposal strictly benefits the companies unless you have some magical way of determine merit that no one else has ever come up with. Workplace efficiency always benefits the company, morale is meaningless crap without the pay or benefits.
    You scared of competition? Sad. At least we know you’re lazy.
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    thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,570
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    23 year old TKS, the Union apologist.

    I’m fucking shocked.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,934
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    thechatch said:

    23 year old TKS, the Union apologist.

    I’m fucking shocked.

    Imagine all that theft of their labor that Teacher Unions are involved in. Just think of the billions that were stolen from teachers in 2020 by the government and wealthy taxpayers.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    Recalled *taint-licking* in another thread.

    Can't believe I overlooked @TheKobeStopper's anti-meritocracy complaints versus *getting his guys in there.*

    Is it 2017 again?
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