Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
Options

‘Absolute Socialism’ Just Around the Corner With Infrastructure Package

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,053
First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
Founders Club
edited March 2021 in Tug Tavern
BY ISABEL VAN BRUGEN AND PAUL GREANEY
The Epoch Times

"Absolute socialism” is just around the corner in the United States if the proposed infrastructure bill passed Congress, according to Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.).

The Democrat-led Senate is working on a major infrastructure bill that Democratic lawmakers hope will be signed by President Joe Biden by the end of September. Biden first floated the $2 trillion infrastructure bill while campaigning.

“Socialism probably is right around the corner—absolute socialism,” the Republican lawmaker and real estate developer told NTD News, expressing concern over the nation’s debt as the White House mulls how to pay for the wide-ranging bill.

The starting point for infrastructure costs stands at $320 billion from a transportation bill previously passed in the House. However, the White House has so far declined to specify an overall price tag since proposing its $2 trillion plan amid concerns of how to pay for it. Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Monday that Biden will be discussing the proposal with his policy team “in days ahead.”

Democrats have said the package would include roughly $1 trillion for roads, bridges, rail lines, electrical vehicle charging stations, and the cellular network, among other items. The goal would be to facilitate the shift to supported “green” energy while improving economic competitiveness.

A second component would propose benefits for workers, including free community college, universal pre-kindergarten, and paid family leave.

Democrats have proposed a wealth tax as a potential funding mechanism for the bill.

“The problem we’ve got is so many… from Biden on down to who he has put in control, are career bureaucrats. They’ve … never had a job, they’ve never worked in a factory, they’ve never had to produce income,” Norman said.
“I was on the budget committee last year, to have the $1.9 trillion [COVID-19 relief package], they’re talking about another $2 trillion plus for infrastructure, no budget offsets—you just would not do this, the country’s $30 trillion in debt.”

“Every individual agency or every individual grouping from Medicare, social security, the items that we by law have to fund now are about bankrupt,” he added. “So this would pretty much do us, and combined with the tax hikes, it makes absolutely no sense,” he said.

Norman’s remarks echoed a Monday Senate floor speech by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who said that he expects the proposal will be a “Trojan horse” that includes other Democratic priorities such as tax hikes, and “other job-killing left-wing policies.”

Tax hikes imposed by the Biden administration to fund the package would “hurt the whole country,” Norman said, noting that a recession followed when former President Lyndon Johnson in 1968 created a temporary 10 percent income tax surcharge on both individuals and corporations.

Biden has proposed raising the corporate tax rate from 21 percent to 28 percent.
«1

Comments

  • Options
    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,053
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
    Founders Club
    “You can’t tax your way into prosperity. We’ve just come off the pandemic, people have been out of work. To impose these kind of tax increases—which is taking our money that we’ve earned and giving it to the government—is going to hurt. It’s going to hurt the whole country,” Norman added.

    Although the goal is a bipartisan infrastructure package, Democrats in Congress have signaled a willingness to go it alone if they are blocked by Republicans, given their current majorities in both houses.

    “We need to get it done,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) ahead of a virtual meeting with the president at the senators’ annual retreat on Monday evening.

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said last week that he plans to attempt passing the infrastructure bill by using a budget process to cut out Republicans, even though several Democrat senators have said they won’t support utilizing the method.

    The COVID-19 relief package was passed with zero Republican votes after Congressional Democrats used the reconciliation budget process to bypass the filibuster, which lowered the threshold required in the upper chamber from 60 to 50.

    “Businesses are the backbone of this country, small businesses particularly, are the ones that produce the taxes that pay the first responders, the police, fire. And that’s what we’ve got to get back to, to remind the American people,” Norman added.
  • Options
    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,809
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
    Wanna be commies going full commie.
  • Options
    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes First Comment First Anniversary
    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.
  • Options
    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,861
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    And which of those $1 Trillion infrastructure proposals did your saggy tit leader enact in Congress?

    Or was she and Fang Fangs boy toy too busy Russia! Russia! Russia'ing! it?

    Shill.

  • Options
    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,595
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Up Votes Combo Breaker

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    And which of those $1 Trillion infrastructure proposals did your saggy tit leader enact in Congress?

    Or was she and Fang Fangs boy toy too busy Russia! Russia! Russia'ing! it?

    Shill.

    She has gotten extra horsey and extra saggy
    Sad!!
  • Options
    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,861
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    And which of those $1 Trillion infrastructure proposals did your saggy tit leader enact in Congress?

    Or was she and Fang Fangs boy toy too busy Russia! Russia! Russia'ing! it?

    Shill.

    She has gotten extra horsey and extra saggy
    Sad!!
    There are multiple saggy tit leaders in @TheKobeStopper 's cult.

    The first six are consensual. Write-in for Kamela's two saggy tits to complete the sixsome for his slurp slurp shilling TDS nourishment.





  • Options
    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,053
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
    Founders Club

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    Trump spent like a drunken sailor, which wasn't good. But a key difference is that if Trump was leading it you knew it was going to get done and not be a boondoggle that used most of the money for other secret purposes.
  • Options
    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes First Comment First Anniversary
    This is like an impenetrable fortress. Your weird trust of Trump because he owns the libs and the worship of the businessman.

    All I’ll say is the difference between Trump’s corruption and dem corruption is mostly just optics.
  • Options
    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes
    Standard Supporter

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    Trump spent like a drunken sailor, which wasn't good. But a key difference is that if Trump was leading it you knew it was going to get done and not be a boondoggle that used most of the money for other secret purposes.
    Just like with all the Covid spending and Obama's stimulus bill at the end of the day we're going spend trillions and we'll have nothing of substance to show for it. Lots of Rat party donors and constituency groups will get wealthy, and billions upon billions will be pissed away. We've become the 3rd world corrupt country I used to read about in Asia and Africa when I was a kid.
  • Options
    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,861
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes

    This is like an impenetrable fortress. Your weird trust of Trump because he owns the libs and the worship of the businessman.

    All I’ll say is the difference between Trump’s corruption and dem corruption is mostly just optics.

    Go forth and name Trump's corruption.

    List it alongside his fascist actions.



  • Options
    MelloDawgMelloDawg Member Posts: 6,121
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    Trump spent like a drunken sailor, which wasn't good. But a key difference is that if Trump was leading it you knew it was going to get done and not be a boondoggle that used most of the money for other secret purposes.
    Was it?
  • Options
    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,221
    First Anniversary 5 Awesomes First Comment 5 Up Votes

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    Trump spent like a drunken sailor, which wasn't good. But a key difference is that if Trump was leading it you knew it was going to get done and not be a boondoggle that used most of the money for other secret purposes.
    Like the border wall?
  • Options
    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes
    Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    Didn’t see a lot of these articles when Trump ran on $1 trillion infrastructure spending. Twice.

    Trump spent like a drunken sailor, which wasn't good. But a key difference is that if Trump was leading it you knew it was going to get done and not be a boondoggle that used most of the money for other secret purposes.
    Like the border wall?
    Given the fact that he had to fight both Congress and much of the Federal bureaucracy Trump did get an impressive amount of the wall built. Now do California's high speed rail system.
  • Options
    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,924
    First Anniversary 5 Awesomes First Comment 5 Up Votes
    Standard Supporter

    This is like an impenetrable fortress. Your weird trust of Trump because he owns the libs and the worship of the businessman.

    All I’ll say is the difference between Trump’s corruption and dem corruption is mostly just optics.

    Says the commie who is unable to actually discuss Trump's corruption. Remember when Bought and Paid for Cho Bai Den begged Trump to close the US to Chinese travelers in January of 2020? Me neither.
  • Options
    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
    Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2021
    Welcome to the Narrative

    Fight the wall tooth and nail for four years then talk smack about the wall not being done

    Edit to add call Trump a fascist and a dictator then talk smack because he wasn't

  • Options
    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
    First Comment First Anniversary 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes
    Cries of socialism run a bit hollow these days after the $2.2 trillion package that Trump signed. Be consistent or shut the fuck up.
  • Options
    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
    Swaye's Wigwam

    Cries of socialism run a bit hollow these days after the $2.2 trillion package that Trump signed. Be consistent or shut the fuck up.

    As a centrist I tend to agree. The deficit is for the party out of power

    I do think HOW we spend all that money is something that needs to be debated more

    And then track to see if any of it did anything

    Like LA announcing rent money to struggling families. How many families actually got any money and how much or did it go to non profit donors type stuff. Same with infrastructure. What gets built and what goes into donor pockets

    Both sides really do loot the treasury which was one of the appeals of the outsider and why he fucked up the game

  • Options
    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
    First Comment First Anniversary 5 Up Votes 5 Awesomes

    Cries of socialism run a bit hollow these days after the $2.2 trillion package that Trump signed. Be consistent or shut the fuck up.

    As a centrist I tend to agree. The deficit is for the party out of power

    I do think HOW we spend all that money is something that needs to be debated more

    And then track to see if any of it did anything

    Like LA announcing rent money to struggling families. How many families actually got any money and how much or did it go to non profit donors type stuff. Same with infrastructure. What gets built and what goes into donor pockets

    Both sides really do loot the treasury which was one of the appeals of the outsider and why he fucked up the game

    I'm with you for the most part. But the fact remains that the CARES Act turned into Mnuchin's cash grab for friends. And Trump either endorsed it or did fuck all to prevent it.
  • Options
    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes First Comment First Anniversary


    Known political outsider.
  • Options
    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
    First Anniversary First Comment 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes
    Swaye's Wigwam

    Cries of socialism run a bit hollow these days after the $2.2 trillion package that Trump signed. Be consistent or shut the fuck up.

    As a centrist I tend to agree. The deficit is for the party out of power

    I do think HOW we spend all that money is something that needs to be debated more

    And then track to see if any of it did anything

    Like LA announcing rent money to struggling families. How many families actually got any money and how much or did it go to non profit donors type stuff. Same with infrastructure. What gets built and what goes into donor pockets

    Both sides really do loot the treasury which was one of the appeals of the outsider and why he fucked up the game

    I'm with you for the most part. But the fact remains that the CARES Act turned into Mnuchin's cash grab for friends. And Trump either endorsed it or did fuck all to prevent it.
    I still have my check with Trump's name on it which I believe was his major concern. He's no saint and I didn't mean to imply that he was. But he did end up hated by both party establishments so he must have done something right
Sign In or Register to comment.