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Los Angeles is looking more appealing by the day

jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,592
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I myself would prefer Santa Monica. Could live pretty good there as a vagrant.

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    BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 5,320
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    My customer is one street over. Two years ago when I was last there the tents and abandoned motor homes now housing the bums and drug addicts stretched over two miles. It was truly a sight to see.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    Mind boggling chincompetence. Entire city blocks are now effectively worthless. Might as well just raze a few of those buildings and setup official city sponsored favelas.
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,063
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    What kind of a society permits this to happen? Conservatives are partially to blame for not stepping up. Even though progressive politicians enabled this to happen and are mostly to blame.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    What kind of a society permits this to happen? Conservatives are partially to blame for not stepping up. Even though progressive politicians enabled this to happen and are mostly to blame.

    Overcompensating compassion run amok
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,545
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    iirc, the first time I realized things were changing was the inability of the courts to put the crazies away in institutions. (Mad houses?) When that happened those guys were started being public nuisances and only getting an over night trip to jail. O'er the years it has become what we have today in most cities.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
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    What kind of a society permits this to happen? Conservatives are partially to blame for not stepping up. Even though progressive politicians enabled this to happen and are mostly to blame.

    Overcompensating compassion run amok
    As time goes by I lean more towards punishing "the rich" and making people feel guilty

    And its backfiring

    Lots of folks have compassion i agree but not the activists. They have an agenda
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    What kind of a society permits this to happen? Conservatives are partially to blame for not stepping up. Even though progressive politicians enabled this to happen and are mostly to blame.

    Overcompensating compassion run amok
    As time goes by I lean more towards punishing "the rich" and making people feel guilty

    And its backfiring

    Lots of folks have compassion i agree but not the activists. They have an agenda
    I've always subscribed to the bleeding heart theory. These people are deluded by their perception of compassion and chase that high to its nonsensical end point. I know plenty who are in that camp.

    I hear Dori ranting about some "agenda" to keep people dependent on government, but that theory has never resonated with me.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
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    I think the agenda is more to keep the issue in our face. I don't think most of the people on that street really give a shit about being dependent on the government

    I admire folks that quietly go about the business of caring for them. Real heroes you don't hear about
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    edited March 2021

    What kind of a society permits this to happen? Conservatives are partially to blame for not stepping up. Even though progressive politicians enabled this to happen and are mostly to blame.

    Look at the places where this problem is the worst. There are no conservatives in power to even "step up." This is all on the left.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,854
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    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,854
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    SFGbob said:

    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
    Hispanics tend to stay together as a family more than "Anglos" and they'll live with their parents into their 30s more often
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,809
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    SFGbob said:

    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
    Hispanics tend to stay together as a family more than "Anglos" and they'll live with their parents into their 30s more often
    We have people here in their 60's living with their parents. Just sayin'!
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    SFGbob said:

    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
    Hispanics tend to stay together as a family more than "Anglos" and they'll live with their parents into their 30s more often
    So you're telling me there are way to overcome high rents and avoid being homeless.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,854
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
    Hispanics tend to stay together as a family more than "Anglos" and they'll live with their parents into their 30s more often
    So you're telling me there are way to overcome high rents and avoid being homeless.
    Yeah, there are plenty of ways. Things like taxing the rich more than the little people and supporting unions don't sit well with the Tug cons, but that's okay
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
    Hispanics tend to stay together as a family more than "Anglos" and they'll live with their parents into their 30s more often
    So you're telling me there are way to overcome high rents and avoid being homeless.
    Yeah, there are plenty of ways. Things like taxing the rich more than the little people and supporting unions don't sit well with the Tug cons, but that's okay
    Top 1% if income earners are already paying over 1/3 of all income taxes. Top 5% of income earners are paying nearly 60% of all income taxes. How much more would you like them to be paying?

    We already have a system where the "little people" don't pay any Federal income tax. Bottom 50% pay less than 3% of all income taxes.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
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    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Rent for a 450 sq. ft. studio is like $2,000 in a lot of these places. It drives people out and drives people into homelessness. Being a real centrist, I can see blame on both sides here. We're turning into a third world country. It's pathetic.

    And yet few if any of the homeless are illegal immigrants. Homelessness is driven by mental illness and substance abuse, not the high cost of rents.
    Hispanics tend to stay together as a family more than "Anglos" and they'll live with their parents into their 30s more often
    So you're telling me there are way to overcome high rents and avoid being homeless.
    Yeah, there are plenty of ways. Things like taxing the rich more than the little people and supporting unions don't sit well with the Tug cons, but that's okay
    If that money paid anyone's rent we could talk

    Little people don't fund the government. Rich people do. Little people are just easier to find so they get hit on tax hikes regardless

    Unions don't raise wages. Hard work does
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,595
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    What a fucking shithole
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