Sam Huard
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Eason was a transfer, but he was the #1 QB in his class.
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There’s 4 general skills a QB can be judged on:
1) Arm talent
2) Ability to read defenses and make good decisions
3) Pocket mobility and not Browsocking under pressure
4) Ability to take off and run when the defense leaves a lane open
Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers are examples of what happens when you’re elite at all 4.
All we know about Sam Huard right now is that he’s elite at #1. High school defenses are bullshit, so it’s impossible to say anything about #2-4 except that he doesn’t have any red flags in those areas.
Sirmon had a red flag at #2. You could probably say that Eason was in the same boat as Huard coming out... but he ended up being questionable at #2, terrible at #3 and 4. Morris is average at #1/#2 but elite at #3.
TL;DR LIPO with Sam Huard cause we don’t know enough yet -
HeresyYellowSnow said:
Brock could have QB’d 1991 to a Natty.RaceBannon said:
Not sure about rankings back in the day but we used to land a lot of big fish like Uncle Brock. Billy Joe, Chris Chandler and the likeFremontTroll said:A lot of PTSD in the husky fan base but we’ve never landed a qb recruit like Sam.
Maybe he will bust but it certainly won’t have anything to do with Jake Browning.
Brock was central casting.
This century I agree with you
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True. But we’re in some doldrums here.RaceBannon said:
HeresyYellowSnow said:
Brock could have QB’d 1991 to a Natty.RaceBannon said:
Not sure about rankings back in the day but we used to land a lot of big fish like Uncle Brock. Billy Joe, Chris Chandler and the likeFremontTroll said:A lot of PTSD in the husky fan base but we’ve never landed a qb recruit like Sam.
Maybe he will bust but it certainly won’t have anything to do with Jake Browning.
Brock was central casting.
This century I agree with you
Only Billy beats Nebraska -
True, but once you’ve already started for a full mediocre season and then lost your job you can throw that ranking out the window.1to392831weretaken said:Eason was a transfer, but he was the #1 QB in his class.
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Pretty good post but you're either missing accuracy or you've rolled it into arm talent which I think is a separate category.NEsnake12 said:There’s 4 general skills a QB can be judged on:
1) Arm talent
2) Ability to read defenses and make good decisions
3) Pocket mobility and not Browsocking under pressure
4) Ability to take off and run when the defense leaves a lane open
Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers are examples of what happens when you’re elite at all 4.
All we know about Sam Huard right now is that he’s elite at #1. High school defenses are bullshit, so it’s impossible to say anything about #2-4 except that he doesn’t have any red flags in those areas.
Sirmon had a red flag at #2. You could probably say that Eason was in the same boat as Huard coming out... but he ended up being questionable at #2, terrible at #3 and 4. Morris is average at #1/#2 but elite at #3.
TL;DR LIPO with Sam Huard cause we don’t know enough yet
Sam has like A- arm talent (he can't make some of the throws Eason could) but A++ accuracy which is the massive differentiator between him and basically all the highly rated local QB's of the past 15 years. Nobody else was an A in both:
Locker A+ arm talent D+ accuracy
Heaps C arm talent A- accuracy
Eason A+ arm talent C accuracy
Max Brown fuck if I remember anything about that guy
Sam's accuracy gives him a higher floor than any of them and combined with his arm talent gives him a ceiling higher than any of them aside from maybe Lockner (Jack was absolutely elite at both 3 and 4 on your list and Sam is unlikely to be elite at either though probably pretty good at both).
The real question is what Sam can do in your category 2? Yet given his bloodlines, family resources and the fact he picked Kennedy over the other powers like EC specifically for the QB coaching, I would guess he's at least decent with a real shot at exceptional in that category as well.
If Sam busts it will be the biggest surprise of my 23ish years of TBS'ing. -
dnc said:
Pretty good post but you're either missing accuracy or you've rolled it into arm talent which I think is a separate category.NEsnake12 said:There’s 4 general skills a QB can be judged on:
1) Arm talent
2) Ability to read defenses and make good decisions
3) Pocket mobility and not Browsocking under pressure
4) Ability to take off and run when the defense leaves a lane open
Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers are examples of what happens when you’re elite at all 4.
All we know about Sam Huard right now is that he’s elite at #1. High school defenses are bullshit, so it’s impossible to say anything about #2-4 except that he doesn’t have any red flags in those areas.
Sirmon had a red flag at #2. You could probably say that Eason was in the same boat as Huard coming out... but he ended up being questionable at #2, terrible at #3 and 4. Morris is average at #1/#2 but elite at #3.
TL;DR LIPO with Sam Huard cause we don’t know enough yet
Sam has like A- arm talent (he can't make some of the throws Eason could) but A++ accuracy which is the massive differentiator between him and basically all the highly rated local QB's of the past 15 years. Nobody else was an A in both:
Locker A+ arm talent D+ accuracy
Heaps C arm talent A- accuracy
Eason A+ arm talent C accuracy
Max Brown fuck if I remember anything about that guy
Sam's accuracy gives him a higher floor than any of them and combined with his arm talent gives him a ceiling higher than any of them aside from maybe Lockner (Jack was absolutely elite at both 3 and 4 on your list and Sam is unlikely to be elite at either though probably pretty good at both).
The real question is what Sam can do in your category 2? Yet given his bloodlines, family resources and the fact he picked Kennedy over the other powers like EC specifically for the QB coaching, I would guess he's at least decent with a real shot at exceptional in that category as well.
If Sam busts it will be the biggest surprise of my 23ish years of TBS'ing.
Never felt better about him. -
Not that I am one to defend Brownsocks, but he really had 2 different careers. Before the shoulder injury at Oregon and after. Before he was elite and after he was average. Affected his accuracy and time in pocket significantly.
As for Huard, I alway thought Jughead Brock and his ilk were overrated. Same opinion of Sam until proven otherwise. And I don’t give a damn about running at QB. No QB should run, except to draw a defender to open a receiver. -
Jake was never elite. He may have been above average before the injury (against Oregon State), but that requires the qualifiers of "as a sophomore". He most certainly wasn't elite as a freshman.StlouisDawg said:Not that I am one to defend Brownsocks, but he really had 2 different careers. Before the shoulder injury at Oregon and after. Before he was elite and after he was average. Affected his accuracy and time in pocket significantly.
As for Huard, I alway thought Jughead Brock and his ilk were overrated. Same opinion of Sam until proven otherwise. And I don’t give a damn about running at QB. No QB should run, except to draw a defender to open a receiver.
The problem with that is we're now talking 6 and a half games which is not only a really small sample but a sample in which he only played one close game (Arizona) and never threw more than 28 passes.
I don't think 6 1/2 games where he averaged 24 passes a game is enough to declare someone "elite". -
I guess I should have defined the difference here. To me arm talent is "what throws can you make" and accuracy is "how frequently can you make them".dnc said:
Pretty good post but you're either missing accuracy or you've rolled it into arm talent which I think is a separate category.NEsnake12 said:There’s 4 general skills a QB can be judged on:
1) Arm talent
2) Ability to read defenses and make good decisions
3) Pocket mobility and not Browsocking under pressure
4) Ability to take off and run when the defense leaves a lane open
Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers are examples of what happens when you’re elite at all 4.
All we know about Sam Huard right now is that he’s elite at #1. High school defenses are bullshit, so it’s impossible to say anything about #2-4 except that he doesn’t have any red flags in those areas.
Sirmon had a red flag at #2. You could probably say that Eason was in the same boat as Huard coming out... but he ended up being questionable at #2, terrible at #3 and 4. Morris is average at #1/#2 but elite at #3.
TL;DR LIPO with Sam Huard cause we don’t know enough yet
Sam has like A- arm talent (he can't make some of the throws Eason could) but A++ accuracy which is the massive differentiator between him and basically all the highly rated local QB's of the past 15 years. Nobody else was an A in both:
Locker A+ arm talent D+ accuracy
Heaps C arm talent A- accuracy
Eason A+ arm talent C accuracy
Max Brown fuck if I remember anything about that guy
Sam's accuracy gives him a higher floor than any of them and combined with his arm talent gives him a ceiling higher than any of them aside from maybe Lockner (Jack was absolutely elite at both 3 and 4 on your list and Sam is unlikely to be elite at either though probably pretty good at both).
The real question is what Sam can do in your category 2? Yet given his bloodlines, family resources and the fact he picked Kennedy over the other powers like EC specifically for the QB coaching, I would guess he's at least decent with a real shot at exceptional in that category as well.
If Sam busts it will be the biggest surprise of my 23ish years of TBS'ing.
