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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,200
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    EwaDawg said:

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    Christ. You guys haven’t lived until you bought a house at 10% plus interest requiring 20% down.

    Been there, done that. I think I was at about 11% in 1990. And, of course 20% down.

    Good times.
    Bought our first house in 1990. I think we paid 10.25%. Thought we were really killing it when we got to 6 something in a refi.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    HHusky said:

    EwaDawg said:

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    Christ. You guys haven’t lived until you bought a house at 10% plus interest requiring 20% down.

    Been there, done that. I think I was at about 11% in 1990. And, of course 20% down.

    Good times.
    Bought our first house in 1990. I think we paid 10.25%. Thought we were really killing it when we got to 6 something in a refi.
    I remember when it got into the 5s; the refi world was on fire. No better time to be a mortgage broker.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,064
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    HHusky said:

    EwaDawg said:

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    Christ. You guys haven’t lived until you bought a house at 10% plus interest requiring 20% down.

    Been there, done that. I think I was at about 11% in 1990. And, of course 20% down.

    Good times.
    Bought our first house in 1990. I think we paid 10.25%. Thought we were really killing it when we got to 6 something in a refi.
    And you actually were killing it at 6. That's why sub 3 like we are seeing now is so absurd. And cool. It's like FREE MONEY!
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    Swaye said:

    HHusky said:

    EwaDawg said:

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    Christ. You guys haven’t lived until you bought a house at 10% plus interest requiring 20% down.

    Been there, done that. I think I was at about 11% in 1990. And, of course 20% down.

    Good times.
    Bought our first house in 1990. I think we paid 10.25%. Thought we were really killing it when we got to 6 something in a refi.
    And you actually were killing it at 6. That's why sub 3 like we are seeing now is so absurd. And cool. It's like FREE MONEY!
    Exactly. Fuck, if rates were to increase to an even rational level, you'd be net in the black maintaining the loan and parking your cash in a MM.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    Low rates are here to stay. I would probably won’t see rates above 8 % for another 2 decades
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,876
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    FireCohen said:

    Low rates are here to stay. I would probably won’t see rates above 8 % for another 2 decades

    God, I hope that's true.

    The Throbber needs 3 to 5 years of moderately low rates (4 to 5%) so he can GTFO out the compound and then Ka Ching into a nice ass mcmansion in a nice ass climate. Fuck this snow bullshit. Aside from mosquito swatting bikers with his Boss snow plow, moving mass amounts of snow loses it's novelty after a couple years.

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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    FireCohen said:

    Low rates are here to stay. I would probably won’t see rates above 8 % for another 2 decades

    God, I hope that's true.

    The Throbber needs 3 to 5 years of moderately low rates (4 to 5%) so he can GTFO out the compound and then Ka Ching into a nice ass mcmansion in a nice ass climate. Fuck this snow bullshit. Aside from mosquito swatting bikers with his Boss snow plow, moving mass amounts of snow loses it's novelty after a couple years.

    I need rates to stay low ... like below any credible notion of a 5% pension discount rate, for my lump sum payout in 2028 or 2029. The supplemental piece in particular moves like a mother fucker on discount rate. The qualified piece is more like a yacht ... bigger and more stable. The supplemental, which makes up 40+% of my benefit, is like a Jet Ski. Any little move in rates and that fucking thing is all over the place.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,876
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    FireCohen said:

    Low rates are here to stay. I would probably won’t see rates above 8 % for another 2 decades

    God, I hope that's true.

    The Throbber needs 3 to 5 years of moderately low rates (4 to 5%) so he can GTFO out the compound and then Ka Ching into a nice ass mcmansion in a nice ass climate. Fuck this snow bullshit. Aside from mosquito swatting bikers with his Boss snow plow, moving mass amounts of snow loses it's novelty after a couple years.

    I need rates to stay low ... like below any credible notion of a 5% pension discount rate, for my lump sum payout in 2028 or 2029. The supplemental piece in particular moves like a mother fucker on discount rate. The qualified piece is more like a yacht ... bigger and more stable. The supplemental, which makes up 40+% of my benefit, is like a Jet Ski. Any little move in rates and that fucking thing is all over the place.
    The Throbber just wants to cash the fuck out of the GNR Compound by pawning it off to some unsuspecting Cali/PDX/Seattleite who thinks it is cool to live in the woods, then drop all the cash into a comparable place somewhere warm and shut it the fuck down. War no mortgage!

    The Throbber is totally content with having high speed internet, a fully charged Kindle and a fridge stocked with cervezas and vodka. Don't need much more, to be honest. Getting all the jet setting out of my system while I can still get around without a walker.

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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    FireCohen said:

    Low rates are here to stay. I would probably won’t see rates above 8 % for another 2 decades

    God, I hope that's true.

    The Throbber needs 3 to 5 years of moderately low rates (4 to 5%) so he can GTFO out the compound and then Ka Ching into a nice ass mcmansion in a nice ass climate. Fuck this snow bullshit. Aside from mosquito swatting bikers with his Boss snow plow, moving mass amounts of snow loses it's novelty after a couple years.

    It will. Take all the screen shots you need lolz
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,443
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    The low mortgage rates are the thread keeping the whole thing together just like low interest rates keep the borrowing going.

    science
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,876
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    The low mortgage rates are the thread keeping the whole thing together just like low interest rates keep the borrowing going.

    science

    True - and like we say, as long as the house is paid off/new home purchased debt free within 5 years, gonna buy me a golf cart and play some bocci for fun. No car payment/upkeep/insurance. No more paying for kids, no more anything but booze, edibles and internet. And Fuck Jay Inslee we're at it - gonna take all those capital gains elsewhere, motherfucker.

    Sort of how I imagine @RaceBannon lives right now.

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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    The low mortgage rates are the thread keeping the whole thing together just like low interest rates keep the borrowing going.

    science

    How fucking dependent on housing is our economy?

    Btw that's good for Creepy's company bidness, but still. We have a lot of eggs in that basket.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,443
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    The low mortgage rates are the thread keeping the whole thing together just like low interest rates keep the borrowing going.

    science

    How fucking dependent on housing is our economy?

    Btw that's good for Creepy's company bidness, but still. We have a lot of eggs in that basket.
    Everyone does

    I noted last year that as the economy shut down the rich neighborhoods were full of tradesmen remolding both for owners and for profit. Also need that foreign money to keep pouring in to justify the prices

    Orange County prime ocean is where Beverley Hills was and the high end in LA on a big flat lot with 20,000 sf is near 100 million

    Somebody has money

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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    The low mortgage rates are the thread keeping the whole thing together just like low interest rates keep the borrowing going.

    science

    How fucking dependent on housing is our economy?

    Btw that's good for Creepy's company bidness, but still. We have a lot of eggs in that basket.
    Everyone does

    I noted last year that as the economy shut down the rich neighborhoods were full of tradesmen remolding both for owners and for profit. Also need that foreign money to keep pouring in to justify the prices

    Orange County prime ocean is where Beverley Hills was and the high end in LA on a big flat lot with 20,000 sf is near 100 million

    Somebody has money

    $100 million for a house. JFC. There's a lot of money in that white powder.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,200
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    The low mortgage rates are the thread keeping the whole thing together just like low interest rates keep the borrowing going.

    science

    How fucking dependent on housing is our economy?

    Btw that's good for Creepy's company bidness, but still. We have a lot of eggs in that basket.
    Everyone does

    I noted last year that as the economy shut down the rich neighborhoods were full of tradesmen remolding both for owners and for profit. Also need that foreign money to keep pouring in to justify the prices

    Orange County prime ocean is where Beverley Hills was and the high end in LA on a big flat lot with 20,000 sf is near 100 million

    Somebody has money

    $100 million for a house. JFC. There's a lot of money in that white powder.
    For the guy who wants to shit in a different toilet every day of the month.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    dflea said:

    Imagine thinking an “MBA in finance” is supposed to impress people.

    No shit the loss isn’t realized until you sell. If rates pop up to ~6% nobody is buying anyone’s 800k home nor able to borrow at that rate.

    What a dumb fuck.

    Do tell. I'm not the only one here whose folks were paying 15-16% on their first mortgage back in the early 70's. In fact over the last 50 years, the rates have been below 6% for about 10 of them.

    No need to spaz like you're in some Tug thread.
    Interest rates never hit 15-16% at anytime in the 1970s let alone the early 70s but cool story bro. It's almost like a story a whiney Kunt would tell.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,200
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    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    Imagine thinking an “MBA in finance” is supposed to impress people.

    No shit the loss isn’t realized until you sell. If rates pop up to ~6% nobody is buying anyone’s 800k home nor able to borrow at that rate.

    What a dumb fuck.

    Do tell. I'm not the only one here whose folks were paying 15-16% on their first mortgage back in the early 70's. In fact over the last 50 years, the rates have been below 6% for about 10 of them.

    No need to spaz like you're in some Tug thread.
    Interest rates never hit 15-16% at anytime in the 1970s let alone the early 70s but cool story bro. It's almost like a story a whiney Kunt would tell.
    At this bored, we say, "You must be mistaken, good sir."
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    dflea said:

    Imagine thinking an “MBA in finance” is supposed to impress people.

    No shit the loss isn’t realized until you sell. If rates pop up to ~6% nobody is buying anyone’s 800k home nor able to borrow at that rate.

    What a dumb fuck.

    Do tell. I'm not the only one here whose folks were paying 15-16% on their first mortgage back in the early 70's. In fact over the last 50 years, the rates have been below 6% for about 10 of them.

    No need to spaz like you're in some Tug thread.
    I think my boss paid 18% in 1982 or thereabouts.

    Of course, my money market account was paying 15% too.
    If you were trying to save for retirement during the early to mid 80s the only investment advice you'd get would be to put your money into a CD.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Just refi'd to a 15 year fixed at 2.375% in November. Immediately went from paying about 57% to the interest each month to paying 72% toward the principal each month. Playing around with paying an additional $500 each month and the savings in interest over the life of the loan are not insignificant. I went from thinking I'd always have a mortgage to realistically paying this place off in less than 10 years. If I can get my wife to stop buying expensive cars and put that money toward the mortgage I could have the place paid off before I retire.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    SFGbob said:

    Just refi'd to a 15 year fixed at 2.375% in November. Immediately went from paying about 57% to the interest each month to paying 72% toward the principal each month. Playing around with paying an additional $500 each month and the savings in interest over the life of the loan are not insignificant. I went from thinking I'd always have a mortgage to realistically paying this place off in less than 10 years. If I can get my wife to stop buying expensive cars and put that money toward the mortgage I could have the place paid off before I retire.

    That's a good deal. If you're convinced like @HoustonHusky that the Fed will keep this house of cards propped up for a while longer, you might take that $500 and put in the market. The net gain is easy against 2.375% interest, and your house is increasing in value as well.

    I went to a 15 year back a billion years ago at 4.5%, which relative to where they'd been bumping along was like a home run for timing the market. It was miraculous. And that 15 years flew by quickly. No question that in hindsight that move will be amongst the most significant financial moves you'll ever make unless you get in on some private equity thing and hit it out of the park or unless you're one of thee investment wizbangs that lurk around here. I am not that person. I don't have the balls for it.
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