Yeah, w/o question. Harbaugh overachieved bigly at Stanford. Won some huge games he wasn't supposed to. Set the program up to be a perennial Pac contender after he left.
Can the same be said of Pete? Pete was a good (not great) hire with the benefit of hindsight.
From an objective view point, he didn't accomplish anything. But I'll give you this: Riley's worst year in 14 years at Oregon St. is better than all but 2 years since he's left.
He wasn't a great coach, but in their history, he was a great hire.
From an objective view point, he didn't accomplish anything. But I'll give you this: Riley's worst year in 14 years at Oregon St. is better than all but 2 years since he's left.
He wasn't a great coach, but in their history, he was a great hire.
There's been lots of "good" hires over the years. This where I put Shaw, Whittingham, Pete, Riley, Toledo, Snyder, Tedford, etc.
The point of the OP though is that there have really only been like 2, maybe 3, gland slam hires in the recent history of this league. They mostly always end up in failure with some occasional good ones.
From an objective view point, he didn't accomplish anything. But I'll give you this: Riley's worst year in 14 years at Oregon St. is better than all but 2 years since he's left.
He wasn't a great coach, but in their history, he was a great hire.
There's been lots of "good" hires over the years. This where I put Shaw, Whittingham, Pete, Riley, Toledo, Snyder, Tedford, etc.
The point of the OP though is that there have really only been like 2, maybe 3, gland slam hires in the recent history of this league. They mostly always end up in failure with some occasional good ones.
From an objective view point, he didn't accomplish anything. But I'll give you this: Riley's worst year in 14 years at Oregon St. is better than all but 2 years since he's left.
He wasn't a great coach, but in their history, he was a great hire.
There's been lots of "good" hires over the years. This where I put Shaw, Whittingham, Pete, Riley, Toledo, Snyder, Tedford, etc.
The point of the OP though is that there have really only been like 2, maybe 3, gland slam hires in the recent history of this league. They mostly always end up in failure with some occasional good ones.
I would actually give two Great Hires for the Chipper. 1. Hiring him as OC 2. Hiring him as HC. Both were also seriously balls moves too, especially HC. For what Washington was at the time, who I assume they would have hired otherwise and guys like Mora seemingly turning it down, and what the program is looking like quickly after Petersen, he was a borderline great hire.
I would consider calling Riley and even Leach great hires given what else those programs have done. Consider Shaw too. I know Harbaugh totally set him up and he slid over time the way we all thought he was but that was a situation where someone easily could have driven the joke that is Stanford football off a cliff, let alone kept them winning Pac-12 championships for a while.
I really look forward to stanford being garbage again
"Look forward" - aren't we there already outside of against Washington?
You have to beat them first.
But I mean real garbage. Like my first 2 years of ever caring about pac football when I was a freshman and soph in 07 we beat them by like 35 each time.
I really look forward to stanford being garbage again
"Look forward" - aren't we there already outside of against Washington?
You have to beat them first.
But I mean real garbage. Like my first 2 years of ever caring about pac football when I was a freshman and soph in 07 we beat them by like 35 each time.
I really look forward to stanford being garbage again
"Look forward" - aren't we there already outside of against Washington?
You have to beat them first.
But I mean real garbage. Like my first 2 years of ever caring about pac football when I was a freshman and soph in 07 we beat them by like 35 each time.
I really look forward to stanford being garbage again
Garbage, like, 60% of their team injured and playing the 2nd string janitor two years ago or practicing in the Denny's parking lot on short notice and still pushing in our shit? Like that kind of garbage?
From an objective view point, he didn't accomplish anything. But I'll give you this: Riley's worst year in 14 years at Oregon St. is better than all but 2 years since he's left.
He wasn't a great coach, but in their history, he was a great hire.
There's been lots of "good" hires over the years. This where I put Shaw, Whittingham, Pete, Riley, Toledo, Snyder, Tedford, etc.
The point of the OP though is that there have really only been like 2, maybe 3, gland slam hires in the recent history of this league. They mostly always end up in failure with some occasional good ones.
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hmmmmm.....bold statement
Never won the Pac
Can the same be said of Pete? Pete was a good (not great) hire with the benefit of hindsight.
Harbaugh would have won more than a few Pac titles if he stayed at Furd.
From an objective view point, he didn't accomplish anything. But I'll give you this: Riley's worst year in 14 years at Oregon St. is better than all but 2 years since he's left.
He wasn't a great coach, but in their history, he was a great hire.
The point of the OP though is that there have really only been like 2, maybe 3, gland slam hires in the recent history of this league. They mostly always end up in failure with some occasional good ones.
I would consider calling Riley and even Leach great hires given what else those programs have done. Consider Shaw too. I know Harbaugh totally set him up and he slid over time the way we all thought he was but that was a situation where someone easily could have driven the joke that is Stanford football off a cliff, let alone kept them winning Pac-12 championships for a while.
But I mean real garbage. Like my first 2 years of ever caring about pac football when I was a freshman and soph in 07 we beat them by like 35 each time.
We don't want to see the squad, we just dont.....
Uncle Denny >>>>>>>>Mediocre Mike
And it's not even close.