The First Psychedelic's ETF is Here, Should You Invest?

AtomicPiss

https://investorsobserver.com/news/featured/the-first-psychedelics-etf-is-here-should-you-invest

PostGameOrangeSlices

No

GreenRiverGatorz

I don't see why not. I think we're still decades away from this being acceptable in the mainstream as an actual therapeutic. But you can just look to how fast the winds have been blowing with cannabis acceptance and a cultural emphasis on mental health, and it's not hard to trace a line to eventual psychedelic use being kosher.

So sure, toss a few bucks and get in on the ground floor.

pawz

GreenRiverGatorz said:

I don't see why not. I think we're still decades away from this being acceptable in the mainstream as an actual therapeutic. But you can just look to how fast the winds have been blowing with cannabis acceptance and a cultural emphasis on mental health, and it's not hard to trace a line to eventual psychedelic use being kosher.

So sure, toss a few bucks and get in on the ground floor.

Disagree. I think it will be much quicker.

The work being done by John Hopkins, Cal and maps.org is proving to be irrefutably positive with regards to treating ptsd, addiction and existential crisis due to imminent terminal illness.


For more on the topic, I highly recommend:

How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan

https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-change-your-mind-michael-pollan/1127236693?ean=9780735224155


http://www.dosedmovie.com - a girl's (Wood!) successful journey to defeat opiate addiction with ibogane

https://youtu.be/z7OnZtvPm84


http://www.fromshocktoawe.com/ - follows three combat veterans with severe ptsd and how they found life changing relief through ayahuasca (and MDMA)

https://youtu.be/heDCkw6ayRQ

creepycoug

pawz said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

I don't see why not. I think we're still decades away from this being acceptable in the mainstream as an actual therapeutic. But you can just look to how fast the winds have been blowing with cannabis acceptance and a cultural emphasis on mental health, and it's not hard to trace a line to eventual psychedelic use being kosher.

So sure, toss a few bucks and get in on the ground floor.

Disagree. I think it will be much quicker.

The work being done by John Hopkins, Cal and maps.org is proving to be irrefutably positive with regards to treating ptsd, addiction and existential crisis due to imminent terminal illness.


For more on the topic, I highly recommend:

How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan

https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-change-your-mind-michael-pollan/1127236693?ean=9780735224155


http://www.dosedmovie.com - a girl's (Wood!) successful journey to defeat opiate addiction with ibogane

https://youtu.be/z7OnZtvPm84


http://www.fromshocktoawe.com/ - follows three combat veterans with severe ptsd and how they found life changing relief through ayahuasca (and MDMA)

https://youtu.be/heDCkw6ayRQ

I agree with this. People will soon not care anymore. I laff loudly when I think back to my youth and how forbidden it was. Fucking boomers. @RaceBannon .

I remember when I was a kid, my Little League team had a big game so we met earlier at this other field and had a minnie practice and then jumped into a pickup and the coach drove us to the game. When we were driving out of the parking lot of the field we saw two "hippies" smoking joints. You would have thought we saw someone being murdered. I remember the impact it had on me. I thought I had seen the worst fucking thing ever. Lolz. Little did I know just a few short years later I'd be hitting that shit myself.

RaceBannon

I loved mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms as a boomer. I hated coming down more though

Its interesting to be sure but it caused some depression for me. Or maybe I have always been manic. LIPO

I would never deny someone else based on my experience though. I am guided by science as always

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

I loved mescaline, LSD, and mushrooms as a boomer. I hated coming down more though

Its interesting to be sure but it caused some depression for me. Or maybe I have always been manic. LIPO

I would never deny someone else based on my experience though. I am guided by science as always

My uncle, who smoked enough for the both of us for a lifetim, has now lived in Dallas long enough that he is a certified right winger. He is convinced pot is the devil at least insofar as he is convinced it will lead to massive amounts of loss of productivity as a society. He remembers how unmotivated he was when he was a big smoker and now generalizes across the population. Of course, he also forgets that he was a teenager living in Aberdeen, so there's that which might have something to do with his motivation.

Still, alcohol. It's just all conventional acceptance of shit. 5 years from now nobody will even care about the pot stores near their neighborhoods.

RaceBannon

I've smoked pot since I was 14 and still do although down to weekends now except for in a pandemic.

I've always had plenty of motivation to work because that shit ain't free

Is it good for me? Better than the Camel Straights I smoked and it helps me drink less booze which is also good

We had a kid in the South Capitol hood who got sent to Shelton for dealing pot when I was in grade school. He was in high school. My folks thought that was pretty harsh.

But wait there is more. What's wrong with self medication for mental health anyway? Better than pills IMO

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

I've smoked pot since I was 14 and still do although down to weekends now except for in a pandemic.

I've always had plenty of motivation to work because that shit ain't free

Is it good for me? Better than the Camel Straights I smoked and it helps me drink less booze which is also good

We had a kid in the South Capitol hood who got sent to Shelton for dealing pot when I was in grade school. He was in high school. My folks thought that was pretty harsh.

But wait there is more. What's wrong with self medication for mental health anyway? Better than pills IMO

Totally agree with that with one noted exception: alcohol, for those who can't manage it. E.g., my father. Very functional heavy drinker as far back as I can remember. Built quite a personal empire, all that shit. But fuck, whereas booze lightens me up and, if anything, makes me lazy and sleepy, it activates him emotionally. We all know people and it's one or the other with heavy drinking. You're either the type to clear out the room and/or get hyper emotional, or you want to have a good tim. He's the former, and it has affected family relationships, including mine. He was almost not invited to my oldest's wedding. He'd be better off with pills IMO because, in effect, he can't manage the dosage of his self-medication of choice: Johnny Walker Black with a splash (his splash is like a drop of water).

The good news is that I probably have inherited an iron liver given that he's consumed enough hard liquor to kill five men and he's still here.

RaceBannon

My dad was the WW2 vet quiet alcoholic who was a lawyer and a judge. Was never violent just was never there. I learned from him I shouldn't have kids because I share that semi detachment from feelings. But I did my part with the step kids. Played a lot of golf.

Watching him die of liver cancer made me drink less.

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

My dad was the WW2 vet quiet alcoholic who was a lawyer and a judge. Was never violent just was never there. I learned from him I shouldn't have kids because I share that semi detachment from feelings. But I did my part with the step kids. Played a lot of golf.

Watching him die of liver cancer made me drink less.

It's the thing about any chemical dependency. The end ain't pretty. But then again, I don't think the end is pretty for 99.9% of us anway. Unless you have a quick brain aneurysm or just take off in your sleep, dying is a bitch.

I would have loved a quiet "not there" father. We always want the opposite of what we had to deal with. My (1/2) brother and I always say the same thing when we reflect on the old man: if only he were boring.