Would Reagan's Policies Work Today?

creepycoug

DerekJohnson said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

This a tug subject

Disagree. Political economy is in our? wheelhouse until Papa says otherwise. We've got the brains and the balls to discuss this without the riff faff chiming in. You are always welcome here. I know you need to go out and Tom Cat in the Tug, but just don't ever bring her home.

I must be the "papa" in this scenario? Otherwise you'd be referring to yourself as "papi"

Father Stalin, of course. Take it to Yella's History Board!

creepycoug

PurpleThrobber said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

HoustonHusky said:

creepycoug said:

HoustonHusky said:

I skimmed it...a lot of Reaganomics is misunderstood/misinterpreted as focused on only cutting taxes. He really did a ton to deregulate/get govt out of controlling the economy which helped a ton. Highly recommend watching Commanding Heights if you haven't already...fascinating documentary/discussion on the era. Watch Episode 1 as background/lead-in as an overview of what Reagan walked into but Episode 2 focuses on the early 80s economic reforms. Episode 3 would probably be a fascinating rewatch on how we turned everything over to China by falsely assuming they think/behave/act the same as we do...been probably 10 years now since I watched it. I would have a much different perspective now.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/hi/story/index.html

As will all things there can be some parallels but a blanket view of things is just ignorant. The situations aren't the same. The author does not do the MIT brand justice...

I'll watch it for real. Likely next few days as I'm at peak work cycle just now.

Totally agree about deregulation, about which I tend to have very specific mixed feelings. There are those areas where I think you need some rules where the market doesn't necessarily get us there, or on time. But I remember how much it used to cost to fly on a plane. If you're under 45 years old, you don't remember that getting on a plane in the 70s was a huge deal because the tickets were insanely expensive. Deregulation has done wonders for people's mobility. That happened under Ronnie IIRC.

The part that I think is the biggest challenge for any fiscal conservative is how to preserve the status of free market economis. The Trump era has shown the conservative a new economis direction, where protectionism (labor and product) is not a bad thing and is in fact lauded as a value wrapped in the flag of nationalism (ok, a little Tuggy there).

You are probably around my age and know full well that Republicans of that day would have some trouble with the party today. Reagan, and Bush I, were free market guys. That means labor and capital.

This discussion can be better had here than in the Tug. I'm sure of it.

Its a much different conversation now than 20 years ago...I was a big free market guy and still am, but under the stipulation that we all play by the same rules. China's behavior the last 10 years has thrown that out the window...stealing IP and entire businesses...trashing their own environment and using essentially slave labor to build most thing, having the govt subsidize businesses/industries to bankrupt Western competitors. Its something that wasn't even part of the discussion back in the 1970s, 80s, 90s and even 2000s...it was inconceivable at the time that a country would behave that way. But they did.

It is only an opinion, but I have a feeling Reagan would have been a lot more like Trump towards China that most people think.

Reagan was Trump before Trump and got all the shit that Trump got

This GOP misty eyed wish for the next Reagan has to fucking stop

Or enjoy a fill of Bidens

TUG TUG TUG TUG TUG

See my response to Houston. I think there would have been a lot of Trump in Reagan (without the bombast and the bad hair and hot wife), but on immigrant labor and protectionist policies I think Reagan would have had another angle on things. He was a free market guy. Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, Reagan would have watched interest rates more closely. The last several presidents have not; and if anything have insisted on keeping it flowing full tilt boogie.

Nancy wasn't ugly -wood - and she must have had some skills to nab Ronnie away from Jane Wyman who was a pretty big star at the time.

Ronnie also was a noted cocksman. Banged Piper Laurie and Elizabeth Taylor. Rumored to have tapped Marilyn Monroe and Doris Day, too.

Respect.

Nancy "Headquarters" Reagan, in my prime, would have been a 2:00 am mercy killing, as we used to refer to the lower threshold of acceptability. The very bottom.

Pitchfork51

He doesn't hate america. So no.