DJ a Q?
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Cruising for movie dates on the Tug is a new one but here we are.
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This post is indicative of potential demonic possession.TheKobeStopper said:So, first, lets get this out of the way. DJ was correct, I should have given more money to the site. I just always put it on the back burner and justified it by thinking I had done enough for this dump but that was wrong.
That altercation was not why I left, just the straw that broke the camels back. Watching ya'll descend into fascism had been taking its toll for months. I don't know what this post means but let's get to the meat, shall we?
Ya'll fucking mad. Good, fuck you. Did we steal this election? You god damn right we did. Is Kamala a secret communist? You god damn right she is. Is AOC literally the next Stalin and going to turn us into a communist utopia via the GND? YOU GOD DAMN RIGHT SHE IS. And there is nothing you fucking losers can do about it. Except cry like triggered SJWs.
Tonight, we celebrate. A fascist attempted to rise in America but democracy stood tall. Tomorrow, we get to work. Joe Biden is not good enough. Liberalism is not good enough. The people in this country are struggling and so desperate for help that we saw record turnout for two of the worst presidential candidates in our history. Things must change. That change just can't be fascism, it can't be authoritarianism, it must come from the people, from democracy. We need to make things work for the average person, the worker, whether they're red or blue.
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I love you, OBK.oregonblitzkrieg said:
This post is indicative of potential demonic possession.TheKobeStopper said:So, first, lets get this out of the way. DJ was correct, I should have given more money to the site. I just always put it on the back burner and justified it by thinking I had done enough for this dump but that was wrong.
That altercation was not why I left, just the straw that broke the camels back. Watching ya'll descend into fascism had been taking its toll for months. I don't know what this post means but let's get to the meat, shall we?
Ya'll fucking mad. Good, fuck you. Did we steal this election? You god damn right we did. Is Kamala a secret communist? You god damn right she is. Is AOC literally the next Stalin and going to turn us into a communist utopia via the GND? YOU GOD DAMN RIGHT SHE IS. And there is nothing you fucking losers can do about it. Except cry like triggered SJWs.
Tonight, we celebrate. A fascist attempted to rise in America but democracy stood tall. Tomorrow, we get to work. Joe Biden is not good enough. Liberalism is not good enough. The people in this country are struggling and so desperate for help that we saw record turnout for two of the worst presidential candidates in our history. Things must change. That change just can't be fascism, it can't be authoritarianism, it must come from the people, from democracy. We need to make things work for the average person, the worker, whether they're red or blue.
I love you all and wish you all the best. -
Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
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Pool is no heavyweight. But this critique is all about jealousy, envy and lack of market share.
Country music has it's Kenny Chesneys and Toby Keiths.
MSM News has it's CNNs and Tim Pools.
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Yeah if someone asked me to watch a 45 minute video of something I knew I disagreed with I’d tell them to fuck off, which is why I offered something.DerekJohnson said:Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
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TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah if someone asked me to watch a 45 minute video of something I knew I disagreed with I’d tell them to fuck off, which is why I offered something.DerekJohnson said:Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
If there’s ever something you want me to watch, just ask.
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I don't know that I'll disagree with it. I'm 95% sure I will disagree, but it's not 100%. I'm willing to watch at least 20 minutes.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah if someone asked me to watch a 45 minute video of something I knew I disagreed with I’d tell them to fuck off, which is why I offered something.DerekJohnson said:Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
If there’s ever something you want me to watch, just ask.
My biggest issue with Tim is the hyperbole in his headlines, as he rakes in clicks from Trump supporters like me.
But as he gives his sometimes spastic commentaries, I believe he is 100% sincere in what he is saying, and that he is dedicated to trying to find the truth without an outside agenda. In this day and age that is increasingly rare, which is why I value Tim's videos. -
Okay, I did my part but I can't go any further beyond 20:00. This guy is cherry-picking clips to make disingenous arguments. His statement that Tim can't refute arguments and must reach into a rolodex of anecdotes is precisely what this YouTuber is doing. And to pinpoint one thing that Tim got wrong about Covid and therefore brand him a crackpot with a destructive agenda is just ridiculous.
For this guy to do a 45:00 video on Tim Pool seems a little Obsession by Calvin Klein, if you know what I mean.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Tim is mostly guilty of hyperbole in his headlines, and then talking so fast at times that he spazzes out. His hyperbolic headlines are sometimes so cheesy that they're almost begging Trump supporters to click them. But in his videos I find that he's sincere and works hard to present the truth as best he can see it.
You can go ahead and watch 20:00 of that video posted by Bob_C. It's an oldie but a goodie, and quite sobering and prescient.
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DerekJohnson said:
I don't know that I'll disagree with it. I'm 95% sure I will disagree, but it's not 100%. I'm willing to watch at least 20 minutes.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah if someone asked me to watch a 45 minute video of something I knew I disagreed with I’d tell them to fuck off, which is why I offered something.DerekJohnson said:Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
If there’s ever something you want me to watch, just ask.
My biggest issue with Tim is the hyperbole in his headlines, as he rakes in clicks from Trump supporters like me.
But as he gives his sometimes spastic commentaries, I believe he is 100% sincere in what he is saying, and that he is dedicated to trying to find the truth without an outside agenda. In this day and age that is increasingly rare, which is why I value Tim's videos.
Basically this. I more-or-less jackbrownsocksquitwatchinghisstuff.gif because I knew it was @dnc classic confirmation bias. Frankly it's boring.
My contribution to the 'watch this' is Eric Weinstein telling Glen he doesn't actually believe in free markets, and being mildly contemptuous TO HIS FACE throughout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOUJKuTKReg
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Is this is the start of a new “I dare you to ________” phase of the Tug?
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I watched it.
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Eric Weinstein is so smart he can’t actually form an opinion, he just spins in circles pointing out flaws in others opinions.
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Tug Tavern Truth or Daredoogie said:Is this is the start of a new “I dare you to ________” phase of the Tug?
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Watched it, too long and Weinstein is a bit full of himself, but overall much better than expected. Good poast.pawz said:DerekJohnson said:
I don't know that I'll disagree with it. I'm 95% sure I will disagree, but it's not 100%. I'm willing to watch at least 20 minutes.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah if someone asked me to watch a 45 minute video of something I knew I disagreed with I’d tell them to fuck off, which is why I offered something.DerekJohnson said:Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
If there’s ever something you want me to watch, just ask.
My biggest issue with Tim is the hyperbole in his headlines, as he rakes in clicks from Trump supporters like me.
But as he gives his sometimes spastic commentaries, I believe he is 100% sincere in what he is saying, and that he is dedicated to trying to find the truth without an outside agenda. In this day and age that is increasingly rare, which is why I value Tim's videos.
Basically this. I more-or-less jackbrownsocksquitwatchinghisstuff.gif because I knew it was @dnc classic confirmation bias. Frankly it's boring.
My contribution to the 'watch this' is Eric Weinstein telling Glen he doesn't actually believe in free markets, and being mildly contemptuous TO HIS FACE throughout.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOUJKuTKReg -
So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about. -
I’m pretty sure the run defense will be better once the Demons get their guys in there.DoogieMcDoogerson said: -
Yeah guys. Kobe’s just a peaceful centrist trying to provoke rational thought in what is otherwise a cess pool.TheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about.
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#1: Banning people on Twitter isn't "communism." It's what communists do, however. Fascists, too. Both on their way to one-party rule and ultimately totalitarianism.TheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about.
#2: Your friend may indeed be out of his fucking mind, but not those who spar and slug it out with you here in the Tug. We're all assholes, basically, with good reason for being that way. Our School's Prez and AD have fucked us out of a proud, tough, winning football team for going on three decades, for one. And the State of WA has gone over the cliff trying to outdo California in the "Who can be the most ridiculously liberal and dysfunctional, you or us?" competition.
Few in here are crazy, absurd, or insane. They are pissed off at the big picture that seems to be headed our way, and pissed off that our governments have become too powerful and invasive in our daily lives, including lying to us about important things because they think we're too dumb to act appropriately in response to the truth.
Insane? Fuck no. Not even close. Aware, frustrated and angry? Fuck yes. And praise our founding fathers for our first amendment so we can scream and yell about our shitty governments all we want without getting imprisoned and shot.
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The one thing I agree with you on here is that both sides can be rigid.TheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about. -
What does rigid mean? I won't stop you from taking drugs. I don't want to have to pay you so you can use drugs and not work. If you steal to get the money, then I'm happy to pay for you to be in jail. If you want to trespass to illegally camp then I'm happy to jail you. Doesn't appear rigid to me. Now spending $700,000 per apartment unit to house the homeless in southern Cali, that appears rigid to me.DerekJohnson said:
The one thing I agree with you on here is that both sides can be rigid.TheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about. -
DerekJohnson said:
I don't know that I'll disagree with it. I'm 95% sure I will disagree, but it's not 100%. I'm willing to watch at least 20 minutes.TheKobeStopper said:
Yeah if someone asked me to watch a 45 minute video of something I knew I disagreed with I’d tell them to fuck off, which is why I offered something.DerekJohnson said:Sometime this week, probably on the weekend, I will watch a minimum of 20 minutes of it. If I'm sitting there going "Oh for crissakes", then I'm not willing to watch the full 45 minutes. But I'll be open-minded enough to watch 20 minutes.
If there’s ever something you want me to watch, just ask.
My biggest issue with Tim is the hyperbole in his headlines, as he rakes in clicks from Trump supporters like me.
But as he gives his sometimes spastic commentaries, I believe he is 100% sincere in what he is saying, and that he is dedicated to trying to find the truth without an outside agenda. In this day and age that is increasingly rare, which is why I value Tim's videos.
What is that based on?TheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about.
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This post sounds a lot like that iraqi feller with the funny hat who used to be Saddam’s truth tellerTheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about. -
Accidental compliments.doogie said:
This post sounds a lot like that iraqi feller with the funny hat who used to be Saddam’s truth tellerTheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about. -
You really need to quit huffing bug spray.TheKobeStopper said:
Accidental compliments.doogie said:
This post sounds a lot like that iraqi feller with the funny hat who used to be Saddam’s truth tellerTheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about. -
I'm talking about some conservatives' inability to listen to the other side for even one minute before forming an opinion. Democrats are much worse at this, but I see it on our side too.WestlinnDuck said:
What does rigid mean? I won't stop you from taking drugs. I don't want to have to pay you so you can use drugs and not work. If you steal to get the money, then I'm happy to pay for you to be in jail. If you want to trespass to illegally camp then I'm happy to jail you. Doesn't appear rigid to me. Now spending $700,000 per apartment unit to house the homeless in southern Cali, that appears rigid to me.DerekJohnson said:
The one thing I agree with you on here is that both sides can be rigid.TheKobeStopper said:So my thoughts after watching the video-
1. I do not support and would not support anything that looked like the USSR. I’ve said that before but it’s always worth mentioning.
2. It is undeniable that in the early stages of a socialist or communist state there is a susceptibility to power grabs. Capitalism has proven it is stronger in these early stages but I view these two as mirrors of each other.
Capitalism helps to prevent it in the early stages but because it allows for and actually demands the accumulation of wealth and power, it will inevitably result in the power being condensed into the hands of the few. Communism is more susceptible early but inevitably prevents it as it goes on (yes this is the “wait till we get our guys in there” argument but we’re also advocating for a once proud program to fire the coach before it goes 0-12).
3. My perception is that you guys view any type of power grab as “communism”. That the globalist capitalists are pushing us to communism by doing what capitalism demands. I assure you people were trying to become as powerful as possible long before communism. It feels impossible to even have conversations with you guys because of this. I don’t think we are anywhere close to socialism. I don’t think Bernie’s policies are a path to socialism. Barring a catastrophic event the US is a century (at least) from becoming socialist and if climate change isn’t real you got nothing to worry about. And you guys are like “banning people on twitter is communism”. It’s insane.
4. I’ve generally tried to avoid any type of real conversation since coming back. I don’t really think it’s worth my time to try and have genuine conversations with you guys. Not because you’re dumb but because you refuse to leave room to agree on anything. I can talk to dnc and agree on things or agree to disagree, my best friend wants to destroy the government completely and only leave capitalism to rule and we can talk and be civil and see each other’s side but you guys are out of your fucking minds.
But I appreciate you trying to watch the video so while it’s not exactly on topic of the video, that’s what it made me think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRU6e-m4Pn4
