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Pay the players fucktards - this will really make you smile

oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
edited January 2014 in Hardcore Husky Board
registerguard.com/rg/sports/31066462-81/college-union-athletes-players-ncaa.html.csp

Northwestern football players are trying to start a labor union. The poor players aren't getting paid to play. The coaches get paid and they don't. The schools are making money by selling their jerseys. Sniff, sniff. Ignore the fact that you get a free education, a free platform to showcase your skills, fame and a shot at the NFL if you're a good enough player. None of that is worth anything, right? It would be nice if someone could determine the monetary value of the platform these players are provided by the NCAA and their school to make a name for themselves and further their careers, particularly the ones who are the best at what they do. That's worth millions in and of itself. So STFU.

If you support this shit you need to DIAFF. You are supporting the end of CFB as we know it.
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  • section8section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    Seems easy, pay the players a bit but pull their scholarships.
  • Mods? Not only was this story posted to start another thread but this guy is a fucking idiot.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2014

    Mods? Not only was this story posted to start another thread but this guy is a fucking idiot.

    You're the poster girl for pay the players on the board. Discussing your idiotic viewpoint on this issue deserves another thread. 2 threads on the subject is far less than the 223 threads about climate change that have been started to refute your views.
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2014

    I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
  • Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,181
    They don't need to be paid. What they need is a fund set up to pay for their medical bills in 30 years.
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    Really, I know a guy with constant back pain who played 25 years ago.
  • I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
    This is where your argument falls apart.

    It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.


    The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.

    For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.

    Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.

    I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.

    Hope this helps.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2014

    I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
    This is where your argument falls apart.

    It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.


    The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.

    For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.

    Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.

    I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.

    Hope this helps.
    Sounds like a big Mitt supporter.

    The players should call bullshit on this travesty and quit.
  • I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
    This is where your argument falls apart.

    It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.


    The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.

    For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.

    Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.

    I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.

    Hope this helps.
    Sounds like a big Mitt supporter.

    The players should call bullshit on this travesty and quit.
    I thought you knew shit about economics.

    It's been a rough day for Damone.
  • trackertracker Member Posts: 866

    Players should be paid. . .but no more than $15.00 an hour.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Pull scholarships,

    Charge all players an appearance fee

    Credit back to players revenues above expenses including general university overhead and rights fees.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    tracker said:


    Players should be paid. . .but no more than $15.00 an hour.

    That would be a cut in pay. What's up with that?

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
    This is where your argument falls apart.

    It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.


    The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.

    For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.

    Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.

    I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.

    Hope this helps.
    Sounds like a big Mitt supporter.

    The players should call bullshit on this travesty and quit.
    I thought you knew shit about economics.

    It's been a rough day for Damone.
    As Harvey said, you've been out over your skis for a while now.

  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2014

    I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
    This is where your argument falls apart.

    It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.


    The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.

    For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.

    Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.

    I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.

    Hope this helps.
    * How do fake classes in sociology prepare you any less better to step out into the world than reel classes on gender in antiquity?

    * Oh, the players generate all the publicity. Alright. Then lets let the players go play by themselves on public football fields without the bright lights, the marketing machine, etc. behind them backing them up and see how much publicity they generate. Sure they generate a good portion of the publicity in CFB games, but without the framework of the schools and the NCAA behind them, they would be nothing.

    * Again, with your basketball point. The players get national exposure. Those that end up making it to the NBA get there by having their talents exposed, which leads to big paychecks later on down the road. HTH. People who play college football and basketball are essentially enjoying 2 free educations. The 1st is the typical academic education. The second is the sports education. They are learning, and honing their skills for the NFL/NBA while not paying a dime to attain/improve skills they otherwise would not have the opportunity of attaining/utilizing.

    * When it comes to college football I'm not very ideological. I want to see good games with good athletes. I already believe athletes are getting more than their fair share out of the deal in the form of an education, a platform to showcase their talents (which allows them to improve their future earnings potential), fame (if they're into that), and the opportunity to improve their skills by playing with and against the best athletes out there. The players at Northwestern think the NCAA is a dictatorship. Wrong. You can't leave a dictatorship. If Northwestern believes the NCAA is a dictatorship then they need to LEAVE. Personally I think the NCAA should kick them the fuck out before this little revolution spreads. The ideas you espouse will result in an NFL farm league and watered down crappy football. No thanks.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    I don't know. Times change. There is a tremendous amount of money in cfb, but it is not going to the people playing the game.

    Free education and publicity is a form of pay. It reaps dollars later on down the road.
    This is where your argument falls apart.

    It's not an education close to the value of the scholarship because schools subvert the entire process. UNC got caught creating fake classes for athletes. The sociology majors most of these kids are pushed through are worthless. Half of them are semi-literate.


    The publicity point is oh so fucking stupd. Who generates the publicity? The players. Where does the money go? The NCAA and its member schools. This trickles down to the administrators and coaches.

    For instance, the NCAA has. 770 million dollar deal with CBS to broadcast college basketball for just 3 weekends in March. Players see 0 of that revenue.

    Most of them (97%) won't go pro so what the fuck is the value of that publicity when they don't see any money from it.

    I thought you were the guy who hated corporate greed and the exploit of a work force. Revenue generating athletes are not receiving anything close to their actual value in a free market.

    Hope this helps.
    * How do fake classes in sociology prepare you any less better to step out into the world than reel classes on gender in antiquity?

    What the fuck? Maybe if they didn't get pushed through bullshit majors. They wouldn't get paid for being students though. My point conveyed how the education of revenue generating athletes is poor, and the school plays a significant part in that.

    * Oh, the players generate all the publicity. Alright. Then lets let the players go play by themselves on public football fields without the bright lights, the marketing machine, etc. behind them backing them up and see how much publicity they generate. Sure they generate a good portion of the publicity in CFB games, but without the framework of the schools and the NCAA behind them, they would be nothing.

    Ok. So they don't at least deserve a share for their part? Something they don't get now. Let them license their names and share part of the enormous TV revenue that is generated by us watching THEM.

    * Again, with your basketball point. The players get national exposure. Those that end up making it to the NBA get there by having their talents exposed, which leads to big paychecks later on down the road. HTH. People who play college football and basketball are essentially enjoying 2 free educations. The 1st is the typical academic education. The second is the sports education. They are learning, and honing their skills for the NFL/NBA while not paying a dime to attain/improve skills they otherwise would not have the opportunity of attaining/utilizing.

    The 3% of them... cmon man. You have to realize how terrible of an argument that is. What about the players who get the big paychecks but have terrible money management skills?

    "A Sports Illustrated article reports the grim statistics -- 78 percent of NFL players face bankruptcy or serious financial stress within just two years of leaving the game and 60 percent of NBA players face the same dire results in five years."

    Letting the players earn money in college might help them actually learn how to manage their money when become a professional.


    * When it comes to college football I'm not very ideological. I want to see good games with good athletes. I already believe athletes are getting more than their fair share out of the deal in the form of an education, a platform to showcase their talents (which allows them to improve their future earnings potential), fame (if they're into that), and the opportunity to improve their skills by playing with and against the best athletes out there. The players at Northwestern think the NCAA is a dictatorship. Wrong. You can't leave a dictatorship. If Northwestern believes the NCAA is a dictatorship then they need to LEAVE. Personally I think the NCAA should kick them the fuck out before this little revolution spreads. The ideas you espouse will result in an NFL farm league and watered down crappy football. No thanks.

    Players unionizing might actually be the best thing to shield the NCAA from the fallout of the Ed O'bannon lawsuit.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-29/ncaa-should-be-begging-for-a-union.html

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014
    http://assets.usw.org/ncpa/pdfs/6-Billion-Heist-Study_Full.pdf

    Granted it's NCPA supported, but these are interesting findings.

    There will never be a way for players to gain full fair market value outlined here but it shows just how ridiculous the NCAA is. There needs to be a much better balance.
  • HuskyHalfBrainHuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311
    Fucking pay me already for paying to watch an amateur sporting event.

    See what I did there?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,099 Founders Club

    http://assets.usw.org/ncpa/pdfs/6-Billion-Heist-Study_Full.pdf

    Granted it's NCPA supported, but these are interesting findings.

    There will never be a way for players to gain full fair market value outlined here but it shows just how ridiculous the NCAA is. There needs to be a much better balance.

    Why don't you stop watching college football?
  • http://assets.usw.org/ncpa/pdfs/6-Billion-Heist-Study_Full.pdf

    Granted it's NCPA supported, but these are interesting findings.

    There will never be a way for players to gain full fair market value outlined here but it shows just how ridiculous the NCAA is. There needs to be a much better balance.

    Why don't you stop watching college football?
    I don't watch it for the amateurism. I watch it for the entertainment. I'm sure you do to.

    There is no component of amateurism in it that holds my interest. I just want to watch Washington win.
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