Calvinism in College Football

YellowSnow

CFP has completely ruined college football and made it boring as fuck. Bamma, Clemson and Ohio State have gotten 20 of 28 bids since this shit show started.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30563882/college-football-playoff-2020-committee-remains-disappointingly-predictable

Doog_de_Jour

Seriously.

And it’s not like the playoff committee is wrong either. It’s just that college football has been NFL-ized without the counterbalance of the draft to try maintain some parity.

I don’t know how you fix it, but it’s bullshit and I’m embarrassed I supported the CFP back in the day.

YellowSnow

Doog_de_Jour said:

Seriously.

And it’s not like the playoff committee is wrong either. It’s just that college football has been NFL-ized without the counterbalance of the draft to try maintain some parity.

I don’t know how you fix it, but it’s bullshit and I’m embarrassed I supported the CFP back in the day.

As much as I hate the NFL, they excel at creating parity with the draft and salary cap.

We can't fault Bamma, Clemson or tOSU for doing everything thing they can to win. But having the same matchups each post season has become boring and repetitive. The old Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, match ups would be so much more compelling.

Way to go college football. Just start paying the players so I can quit already.

RaceBannon

Beat them on the field

Or keep supporting the cuckiest cuck of a cuck program that ever cucked

Doog_de_Jour

YellowSnow said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

Seriously.

And it’s not like the playoff committee is wrong either. It’s just that college football has been NFL-ized without the counterbalance of the draft to try maintain some parity.

I don’t know how you fix it, but it’s bullshit and I’m embarrassed I supported the CFP back in the day.

As much as I hate the NFL, they excel at creating parity with the draft and salary cap.

We can't fault Bamma, Clemson or tOSU for doing everything thing they can to win. But having the same matchups each post season has become boring and repetitive. The old Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, match ups would be so much more compelling.

Way to go college football. Just start paying the players so I can quit already.

Oh, I don’t fault BAMA, Clemson, or tOSU either. Good on them for gaming the system to their benefit. It’s disappointing our? team/conference couldn’t get their act together and do the same.

And don’t worry Yella, all signs point to college football becoming semi-pro if not straight up professional in the next few years. The dominoes are starting to fall.

dnc

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

GrundleStiltzkin

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

Bowls -n- Polls.

dnc

GrundleStiltzkin said:

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

Bowls -n- Polls.

I understand the desire for this but it's not ever going to happen again.

Doog_de_Jour

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

That’s what’s going to end up happening. Leach and many other coaches have been lobbying for it.

dnc

Doog_de_Jour said:

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

That’s what’s going to end up happening. Leach and many other coaches have been lobbying for it.

It's chinevitable. Why delay it? The current system is the worst possible scenario.

GrundleStiltzkin

dnc said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

Bowls -n- Polls.

I understand the desire for this but it's not ever going to happen again.

We(!) know futility of desire here.

Doog_de_Jour

dnc said:

Doog_de_Jour said:

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

That’s what’s going to end up happening. Leach and many other coaches have been lobbying for it.

It's chinevitable. Why delay it? The current system is the worst possible scenario.

You gotta figure out the @Logistics first.

RaceBannon

http://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/1340712397317685248?s=19

Doog_de_Jour

RaceBannon said:

http://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/1340712397317685248?s=19

Of course they have Saban driving the car. 😅

YellowSnow

dnc said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

dnc said:

You're never putting the genie back in the bottle. Expand to 8 or this status quo will maintain forever.

Bowls -n- Polls.

I understand the desire for this but it's not ever going to happen again.

To Grumble's point, the best solution was always to keep the traditional bowls and have the post bowls AP #1 vs #2 play each other 2 weeks late on a neutral field, like when Sports Illustrated had us beat @creepycoug in 1992.

In lieu of this, I think the only way to go is get rid of the bowls once and for all and go 16 team Division FCS Model. Wining the Pac and hosting a top 16 marquee opponent in Husky Stadium in December would be more entertaining than the current model.

NoWarningJustDawg

I don't disagree with y'all so far, but this article being written by ESPN is incredibly dumb.

"We ruined college football and made tons of money off it and now we're bitching about it." - basically.

rodmansrage

YellowSnow said:

CFP has completely ruined college football and made it boring as fuck. Bamma, Clemson and Ohio State have gotten 20 of 28 bids since this shit show started.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30563882/college-football-playoff-2020-committee-remains-disappointingly-predictable

its hilarious to see espn running a story about how 'predictable' the selection committee is/was when espn owns the playoff.


i for one am shocked that in a year of declining tv ratings that the selection committee would force three blue bloods and clempsun upon the viewing public.


shocked!

theknowledge

Expand the playoff to 8 teams. Then UW, Oregon or USC can sell to west coast talent that they can play in the playoff if they win the conference. As it stands now most kids know you have to be perfect to get a shot playing on the west coast and odds and history say that won’t happen. The 8 team playoff alone might stem the migration of high end talent and slow the death of west coast football. Emeka isn’t going to Ohio State for a bag of cash. He’s going to make a final four, play on that stage, ball out and make the NFL. With an elite 8 he could win the PAC at UW and play against Clemson or Georgia in a quarter final in front of the whole country. As it stands if he’d stayed at UW, he might have the option of playing the B1Gs second or third place team in a shitty Rose Bowl that no one outside of Seattle cares about. That’s the recruiting pitch that’s killing our conference.

theknowledge

theknowledge said:

Expand the playoff to 8 teams. Then UW, Oregon or USC can sell to west coast talent that they can play in the playoff if they win the conference. As it stands now most kids know you have to be perfect to get a shot playing on the west coast and odds and history say that won’t happen. The 8 team playoff alone might stem the migration of high end talent and slow the death of west coast football. Emeka isn’t going to Ohio State for a bag of cash. He’s going to make a final four, play on that stage, ball out and make the NFL. With an elite 8 he could win the PAC at UW and play against Clemson or Georgia in a quarter final in front of the whole country. As it stands if he’d stayed at UW, he might have the option of playing the B1Gs second or third place team in a shitty Rose Bowl that no one outside of Seattle cares about. That’s the recruiting pitch that’s killing our conference.

Oh, and women's tennis aficionado Larry Scott. FMFYFE

1to392831weretaken

Expanding the playoff doesn't solve the problem. It's not like having eight teams in the playoffs will suddenly make Alabama not rape teams four through eight. What we're seeing in college football is human nature and capitalism in action. Remove all barriers to competition, and eventually one corporation will rule them all. Every time. If you're a fan of any racing series, you've seen a team/factory dominate to the point where rules have to be made to achieve competitive balance.

Eliminating the playoffs and going back to the way things were would have a chance of fixing college football (for fans of all but a handful of programs) after a while, as regional powerhouses would get a perhaps undeserved bump in the polls. Not only will that genie never be put back in the bottle, but it's not even a for-sure solution.

Professional sports leagues have the blueprint for success: competitive balancing. In college sports, the only real lever there would be scholarship limits. Just like the Super Bowl champ picks last, if you want competitive balance in CFB, you've gotta start reducing scholarship limits for programs in various tiers of the postseason rankings. This will never happen, though, so enjoy a decade of Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State winning bigly.

Neighbor2972

Unfortunately the playoff makes everyone too much money so they won't get rid of it. While expanding to 8 won't 'fix' the issue of the same 3 teams winning every year, it will at least fix the narrative problem of CFB.

Because right now the media has made the playoff the only thing that matters, and the only real discussion is deciding between which 3-4 teams deserve to get the 4 spot and the honor of getting throttled by Bama or Clemson. At least if there's 8 teams, more teams have something to play for later into the season and we get to talk about more things than the same 4 teams every year. It would be a lot more fun if we got to talk about Cincinnati for a week instead of Notre Dame.

It won't change the end result, but the process would be more bearable.