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I’m glad you know what was or wasn’t done behind the scenesdnc said:
Convince the conference to push the game back to Sunday so you could get your guys in there. Convince the county to make an exception on contact tracing. Go scorched earth publicly against both if they aren't willing to help until they are willing to reconsider.Tequilla said:
And what more would you have wanted them to do?dnc said:
Well as long as they didn't *want* it to happen...Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
I don't for a minute believe they did everything possible to prevent it from happening. And that's the problem.
Unless you think they are lying about having ZERO OL available (and they aren’t) ... what would you have liked for them to have done?
It’s highly ignorant to think that there hadn’t been significant work done to be able to play as it was. I doubt anybody that is bitching knows anything about the work behind the scenes.
Play DL at OL.
Play walk ons.
Show some damn fire and passion and pride at some level.
Seriously anything would have been better than casually stepping aside, offering Oregon your spot and declaring them the conference champions if they win.
Did you miss that they had ZERO OL available? Do you think magically those OL are available on Sunday but not tonight? And if that was the case why would we have passed on a bowl because we couldn’t field a competitive team by then?
I’m sure the solution is to ask DL pull double duty on both sides including at a position they have literally no skill set in doing. I’m sure that’s not a giant risk for all involved.
From my understanding the reasons we aren’t playing has nothing to do with a lack of fire and passion.
Seriously FUCK OFF with your logic ... it’s beyond fucking stupid. You’re normally way better than grasping at straws -
Where the fuck did I suggest I know anything that went on behind the scenes? You are reading something that isn't there. So FUCK OFF with your reading comprehension.Tequilla said:
I’m glad you know what was or wasn’t done behind the scenesdnc said:
Convince the conference to push the game back to Sunday so you could get your guys in there. Convince the county to make an exception on contact tracing. Go scorched earth publicly against both if they aren't willing to help until they are willing to reconsider.Tequilla said:
And what more would you have wanted them to do?dnc said:
Well as long as they didn't *want* it to happen...Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
I don't for a minute believe they did everything possible to prevent it from happening. And that's the problem.
Unless you think they are lying about having ZERO OL available (and they aren’t) ... what would you have liked for them to have done?
It’s highly ignorant to think that there hadn’t been significant work done to be able to play as it was. I doubt anybody that is bitching knows anything about the work behind the scenes.
Play DL at OL.
Play walk ons.
Show some damn fire and passion and pride at some level.
Seriously anything would have been better than casually stepping aside, offering Oregon your spot and declaring them the conference champions if they win.
Did you miss that they had ZERO OL available? Do you think magically those OL are available on Sunday but not tonight? And if that was the case why would we have passed on a bowl because we couldn’t field a competitive team by then?
I’m sure the solution is to ask DL pull double duty on both sides including at a position they have literally no skill set in doing. I’m sure that’s not a giant risk for all involved.
From my understanding the reasons we aren’t playing has nothing to do with a lack of fire and passion.
Seriously FUCK OFF with your logic ... it’s beyond fucking stupid. You’re normally way better than grasping at straws
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Ourº Ducky friends here & on Twatter thing I'm de novo on this.dnc said:
Simple fact.GrundleStiltzkin said:The conference didn't want to play, and neither did Washington. /season.
Nuff said.
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There’s nothing that matters with the contact tracingEmoterman said:Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
Only thing that remotely matters is that those COVID positive are probably on a longer timeline than those simply caught up in the tracing game
Regardless of which bucket the timelines are horrible
That’s why it doesn’t matter -
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant -
My understanding would say this is categorically falseGrundleStiltzkin said:The conference didn't want to play, and neither did Washington. /season.
As has been discussed here and other mediums, the first 12 months of the Jimmy Lake tenure has been a disaster in many ways and the inability to prove things on the field is just going to continue that narrative for at least another 9 months.
I don’t think Montlake is naive to that -
If what Vorel says is true, and there was no issue with rising positive tests, just the tracing based quarantines, AND if what mattered most to UW AD and Jimmy was playing the game, scream and yell about amended CDC guidelines and that there's no reason UW shouldn't play this week.Tequilla said:
There’s nothing that matters with the contact tracingEmoterman said:Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
Only thing that remotely matters is that those COVID positive are probably on a longer timeline than those simply caught up in the tracing game
Regardless of which bucket the timelines are horrible
That’s why it doesn’t matter
If what matters most is playing to a different audience that would be repulsed by such a vulgar display, you do what UW did. -
You threw out suggestions of “trying anything” and “anything being better than casually stepping aside”dnc said:
Where the fuck did I suggest I know anything that went on behind the scenes? You are reading something that isn't there. So FUCK OFF with your reading comprehension.Tequilla said:
I’m glad you know what was or wasn’t done behind the scenesdnc said:
Convince the conference to push the game back to Sunday so you could get your guys in there. Convince the county to make an exception on contact tracing. Go scorched earth publicly against both if they aren't willing to help until they are willing to reconsider.Tequilla said:
And what more would you have wanted them to do?dnc said:
Well as long as they didn't *want* it to happen...Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
I don't for a minute believe they did everything possible to prevent it from happening. And that's the problem.
Unless you think they are lying about having ZERO OL available (and they aren’t) ... what would you have liked for them to have done?
It’s highly ignorant to think that there hadn’t been significant work done to be able to play as it was. I doubt anybody that is bitching knows anything about the work behind the scenes.
Play DL at OL.
Play walk ons.
Show some damn fire and passion and pride at some level.
Seriously anything would have been better than casually stepping aside, offering Oregon your spot and declaring them the conference champions if they win.
Did you miss that they had ZERO OL available? Do you think magically those OL are available on Sunday but not tonight? And if that was the case why would we have passed on a bowl because we couldn’t field a competitive team by then?
I’m sure the solution is to ask DL pull double duty on both sides including at a position they have literally no skill set in doing. I’m sure that’s not a giant risk for all involved.
From my understanding the reasons we aren’t playing has nothing to do with a lack of fire and passion.
Seriously FUCK OFF with your logic ... it’s beyond fucking stupid. You’re normally way better than grasping at straws
So you either clearly have knowledge of what was going on behind the scenes or are speaking out of your ass like an idiot
The last 2 weeks have been the worst case scenario for UW ... which is a fitting way to end a complete disaster of a 2020 for the program at large -
Where was Jimmy Lake in August breaking narrative, exercising leadership, saying he and his team wanted to play? Didn't happen. Washington was lockstep with the conference. The closest thing P12 had to a Ryan Day or Scott Frost was some mild discontent from Utah. The Utah weº like to say still belongs in the WAC. Not Washington.Tequilla said:
My understanding would say this is categorically falseGrundleStiltzkin said:The conference didn't want to play, and neither did Washington. /season.
As has been discussed here and other mediums, the first 12 months of the Jimmy Lake tenure has been a disaster in many ways and the inability to prove things on the field is just going to continue that narrative for at least another 9 months.
I don’t think Montlake is naive to that -
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That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight -
Holy shit. FTG.Emoterman said:
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Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
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Jimmy was mild in his displeasure at not starting on time but didn’t push it as much as others around the nationGrundleStiltzkin said:
Where was Jimmy Lake in August breaking narrative, exercising leadership, saying he and his team wanted to play? Didn't happen. Washington was lockstep with the conference. The closest thing P12 had to a Ryan Day or Scott Frost was some mild discontent from Utah. The Utah weº like to say still belongs in the WAC. Not Washington.Tequilla said:
My understanding would say this is categorically falseGrundleStiltzkin said:The conference didn't want to play, and neither did Washington. /season.
As has been discussed here and other mediums, the first 12 months of the Jimmy Lake tenure has been a disaster in many ways and the inability to prove things on the field is just going to continue that narrative for at least another 9 months.
I don’t think Montlake is naive to that
There’s no question that the political dynamic on the West Coast has been its own monkey wrench in a numbers of ways -
blargh
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I’m not sure how accurate Jimmy is in that statement given the King County rules are set upGrundleStiltzkin said:
Also I think important to keep in mind any benefit of the doubt in October vanished with rising positives in the community -
No, you don't drop names, you just lie and move on as if nothing happened when someone who actually knows what they're talking about calls you on your bullshit. It works on stupid people, so, it works most of the time, I guess. That's sad.Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
Tell us more about that HIPAA violation you know nothing about? -
We all thank Kedon Slovis for his leadership.Tequilla said:
Jimmy was mild in his displeasure at not starting on time but didn’t push it as much as others around the nationGrundleStiltzkin said:
Where was Jimmy Lake in August breaking narrative, exercising leadership, saying he and his team wanted to play? Didn't happen. Washington was lockstep with the conference. The closest thing P12 had to a Ryan Day or Scott Frost was some mild discontent from Utah. The Utah weº like to say still belongs in the WAC. Not Washington.Tequilla said:
My understanding would say this is categorically falseGrundleStiltzkin said:The conference didn't want to play, and neither did Washington. /season.
As has been discussed here and other mediums, the first 12 months of the Jimmy Lake tenure has been a disaster in many ways and the inability to prove things on the field is just going to continue that narrative for at least another 9 months.
I don’t think Montlake is naive to that
There’s no question that the political dynamic on the West Coast has been its own monkey wrench in a numbers of ways -
Pea patch this shit. Noc.
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Not that important ... I definitely have no interest in ever being an “insider” or acting like Butler CabinEmoterman said:Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
Even in this case I’m sharing literally the bare minimum of what I’ve heard -
Okay Kimmy.Tequilla said:
Not that important ... I definitely have no interest in ever being an “insider” or acting like Butler CabinEmoterman said:Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
Even in this case I’m sharing literally the bare minimum of what I’ve heard -
Your opiniondtd said:
No, you don't drop names, you just lie and move on as if nothing happened when someone who actually knows what they're talking about calls you on your bullshit. It works on stupid people, so, it works most of the time, I guess. That's sad.Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
Tell us more about that HIPAA violation you know nothing about?
I know where my info is coming from ... I know where that person is in the grand scheme of things
I’m not going to criticize or critique Vorel’s source ... not interested in that as I’m sure he has good sources
I’m not going to say where I’m getting my information so you’re more than welcome to just say I’m spewing BS out of my ass and call it a day.
Those that have spent any amount of time around me know that that’s not my style.
Peace
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Right, because criticizing Vorel would be a HIPAA violation, right?Tequilla said:
Your opiniondtd said:
No, you don't drop names, you just lie and move on as if nothing happened when someone who actually knows what they're talking about calls you on your bullshit. It works on stupid people, so, it works most of the time, I guess. That's sad.Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
Tell us more about that HIPAA violation you know nothing about?
I know where my info is coming from ... I know where that person is in the grand scheme of things
I’m not going to criticize or critique Vorel’s source ... not interested in that as I’m sure he has good sources
I’m not going to say where I’m getting my information so you’re more than welcome to just say I’m spewing BS out of my ass and call it a day.
Those that have spent any amount of time around me know that that’s not my style.
Peace -
Why would I criticize Vorel?dtd said:
Right, because criticizing Vorel would be a HIPAA violation, right?Tequilla said:
Your opiniondtd said:
No, you don't drop names, you just lie and move on as if nothing happened when someone who actually knows what they're talking about calls you on your bullshit. It works on stupid people, so, it works most of the time, I guess. That's sad.Tequilla said:
That’s fine if you think thatdtd said:
You are fake as fuck.Tequilla said:
Would never ask names or numbers ... it’s not really important anywayFremontTroll said:
No, the number of players with a diagnosis could not be a HIPAA violation.Tequilla said:
I would never ask those questions because it’s a HIPAA violation to disclose that informationEmoterman said:
How many positive tests have there been, Mr Connections?Tequilla said:
How can I say what I say? Because I have connections on the matter that you don’t have. And yeah ... I’m going there on this one.FremontTroll said:
How do you know we don't have the ability to field a team 11 days from now? (Alamo Bowl 12/29.)Tequilla said:Lots of ignorance on this thread ... we literally don’t have the ability to field a team
It is what it is
Even applying the ridiculous 14 day quarantine which has no basis in science generally let alone when you are testing everyone daily and quarantining at first positive test or sign of symptoms- how are we giving up now for a bowl 11 days away?
But the real issue is Jimmy and Jen should have been pushing back in the media against King County and the conference months ago. Never happened. Not a peep was heard. Again- should have pushed back regarding rescheduling the championship game or calling it something other than a championship game. Not a peep was heard.
We just gladly submit to the boot as it stomps on our program.
You could argue that the timelines and whatnot could or should be adjusted but that’s not happening on the West Coast.
So even IF we would have been able to get enough bodies cleared there wouldn’t have been time to get back to normal with how long everything has been shit down.
Considering that the timelines for the bowls would have been tight at best the best course of action was to pack it up. Worst thing would be to cancel the bowl game or show up with such a skeleton squad that the game would be a joke.
The decision wasn’t because the team didn’t want to play, or because of upper campus or anything like that. It’s because we are in a pandemic and shit happens.
Do you really think that anybody on Montlake wanted the outcome of tonight to happen? Giving Oregon free juice to use the next 9 months is a worst case scenario.
You can see the uptick in positive tests this week in UW related data
You can do the math on the contact tracing
Best case scenario with math probably gives a matter of days to get ready ... just not realistic
It sucks ... there’s no way around it
It’s probably a fair assertion that if you have lowered standards on the contact tracing you have a better chance. But that’s not shit UW controls ... so that is what it is.
No matter what people here think it’s irresponsible to effectively shut the program down for the better part of a month and show up to play a game with an undetermined roster, few at best practices to prepare, etc.
Anybody that thinks we should be doing that is ignorant
I’m not a name dropper ... so if I’m saying that I’ve heard about what’s going on behind the scenes, I’m pretty confident in what I’m talking about
I probably say about 5% of what I hear because I respect the information and that it’s being said in confidence
When I say something it’s usually because of a situation like this when too many people are being complete fucking idiots and the record needs to be set straight
Tell us more about that HIPAA violation you know nothing about?
I know where my info is coming from ... I know where that person is in the grand scheme of things
I’m not going to criticize or critique Vorel’s source ... not interested in that as I’m sure he has good sources
I’m not going to say where I’m getting my information so you’re more than welcome to just say I’m spewing BS out of my ass and call it a day.
Those that have spent any amount of time around me know that that’s not my style.
Peace
Asking for names of positives is a HIPAA violation for someone to share.
Getting numbers is just a gray area that is meaningless to me and indirectly could lead to divulging names. It’s why I would never ask on something like that that isn’t publicly available.
I haven’t said what I’ve said because I give a shit about puffing out the chest about a source.
I’ve said what I’ve said because the narratives in this thread that we just rolled over and didn’t try to play just simply isn’t accurate.
Go ahead and continue being an idiot -
I want to take the gloves off
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The fact that UW hasn’t come out and said that they have 20 or 30 or 40 positives tells you all you need to know. The king of backpedaling is right about one thing- I don’t need him to get the official numbers because I already read right through the bullshit.
It’s a small number of cases and a cascade of after effects resulting from those cases and the bullshit non-evidence based rules that they are playing under.
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Is there anything worse than claiming you would never want to be a Butler Cabin insider while sincerely stating that you have all this insider information that you only share 5% of? On the very bored where you say you would never want to be considered an insider?
If you have info and want to share it then do. If you don’t then don’t. Nobody cares.
