It’s foolish to destroy small businesses for some old people near death anyhow. As Obama said, give the Olds pills and let them die in a fog of opiates as life goes forward for everyone else.
1) Similar Climate 2) High Density Populations in big cities 3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact.
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.
Yella is talking deaths per million. More people in Cali, hence a lower rate of death. He's also saying that Cali might catch up because nothing we do seems to really work in the long run.
He said total deaths not similar. I showed that was wrong. But anyways, you see totals referenced when it serves and you see ratios when it serves.
1) Similar Climate 2) High Density Populations in big cities 3) Completely opposite public health strategy
Lockdowns clearly don't work. But we knew that.
CA just needed more time to get their guys in there. But still, they've got some work to do to catch up to FL.
FL - 950 Deaths / 1M CA - 563 Deaths / 1M
We'll have to see how it shakes out in the end.
Also noteworthy, one state has a cratered economy and one doesn’t. Similar total deaths, Cali in the lead there currently.
No. Not similar total deaths. FL almost double per capita.
I think the lock downs are mostly FS and counter productive. But let’s CA cordwood has been way lower than FL and that’s fact.
Looked it up yesterday, CA at 22k, FL at 20k.
Yella is talking deaths per million. More people in Cali, hence a lower rate of death. He's also saying that Cali might catch up because nothing we do seems to really work in the long run.
He said total deaths not similar. I showed that was wrong. But anyways, you see totals referenced when it serves and you see ratios when it serves.
My bad if I misread your earlier comment. At the end of the day, per capita is the more relevant stat than total deaths.
Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
Yeah, I would suspect higher percentage of really olds in FL is playing a role here.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community.
Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
Yeah, I would suspect higher percentage of really olds in FL is playing a role here.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community.
Also lots of Cuban's in Florida are largely of Spanish ancestry. Lots of Hispanics in Cali have lots of Indian blood. Indians have a genetic prevalence to develop diabetes in a high carb/sugar diet.
Yella has to account for the fact that Florida has a much older population...it’s basically people 75+ dying from this.
Yeah, I would suspect higher percentage of really olds in FL is playing a role here.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community.
Also lots of Cuban's in Florida are largely of Spanish ancestry. Lots of Hispanics in Cali have lots of Indian blood. Indians have a genetic prevalence to become communists.
How a political party so incompetent that they could fuck up California, with all of its natural resources, continually has people vote them in against their own best interests is one of the most puzzling things in recent politics.
How “progressive” of you Rats to have a State Media run cover for your leadership and demonize all outside of your cult.
Long read but a good one dissecting neo-Progressivism and it’s disastrous effects on a state that was once great and is now hemorrhaging companies and talent.
California exhibits the largest gap between mid-level and upper-level wages in the nation. California’s level of inequality is greater than that of Mexico, and closer to that of Central American countries like Guatemala and Honduras than to what is common in “progressive” developed countries like Canada and Norway. Progressive policies, as applied here in California, have driven this widening gap. The coalition that rules the state—tech oligarchs, public employees, and green non-profits—have backed a draconian tax and regulatory environment that has reduced construction jobs and allowed manufacturing to stagnate, while policymakers have targeted the heavily unionized oil industry for extinction
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Rather than creating a more egalitarian and opportunity-rich environment, the new progressive reality promotes a society of feudal hierarchies with little opportunity for most. Since 2010, 80% of all jobs created in the state, calculates Chapman University’s Marshall Toplansky, have paid under the median income. Half of those fell under $40,000, a poverty wage in a high-cost state.
How a political party so incompetent that they could fuck up California, with all of its natural resources, continually has people vote them in against their own best interests is one of the most puzzling things in recent politics.
How “progressive” of you Rats to have a State Media run cover for your leadership and demonize all outside of your cult.
Long read but a good one dissecting neo-Progressivism and it’s disastrous effects on a state that was once great and is now hemorrhaging companies and talent.
California exhibits the largest gap between mid-level and upper-level wages in the nation. California’s level of inequality is greater than that of Mexico, and closer to that of Central American countries like Guatemala and Honduras than to what is common in “progressive” developed countries like Canada and Norway. Progressive policies, as applied here in California, have driven this widening gap. The coalition that rules the state—tech oligarchs, public employees, and green non-profits—have backed a draconian tax and regulatory environment that has reduced construction jobs and allowed manufacturing to stagnate, while policymakers have targeted the heavily unionized oil industry for extinction
...
Rather than creating a more egalitarian and opportunity-rich environment, the new progressive reality promotes a society of feudal hierarchies with little opportunity for most. Since 2010, 80% of all jobs created in the state, calculates Chapman University’s Marshall Toplansky, have paid under the median income. Half of those fell under $40,000, a poverty wage in a high-cost state.
Higher tax rates and being openly hostile to ‘job creators’ should fix that.
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It’s foolish to destroy small businesses for some old people near death anyhow. As Obama said, give the Olds pills and let them die in a fog of opiates as life goes forward for everyone else.
CA is also 40% Hispanic compared with 23% for Florida. From what I can gather there is a higher prevalence of co-morbidities (e.g, diabetes) within the Hispanic community.
100,000 out of a million is not almost the same as 200,000 out of a million, statistically.
Did they stop teaching math in Washington?
#NuMaff because Everyone deserves the correct answer
Can’t get over how stupid his post is.
Embarrassingly moronic.
How “progressive” of you Rats to have a State Media run cover for your leadership and demonize all outside of your cult.
Long read but a good one dissecting neo-Progressivism and it’s disastrous effects on a state that was once great and is now hemorrhaging companies and talent.
https://americanmind.org/memo/peak-progressive/
California exhibits the largest gap between mid-level and upper-level wages in the nation. California’s level of inequality is greater than that of Mexico, and closer to that of Central American countries like Guatemala and Honduras than to what is common in “progressive” developed countries like Canada and Norway. Progressive policies, as applied here in California, have driven this widening gap. The coalition that rules the state—tech oligarchs, public employees, and green non-profits—have backed a draconian tax and regulatory environment that has reduced construction jobs and allowed manufacturing to stagnate, while policymakers have targeted the heavily unionized oil industry for extinction
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Rather than creating a more egalitarian and opportunity-rich environment, the new progressive reality promotes a society of feudal hierarchies with little opportunity for most. Since 2010, 80% of all jobs created in the state, calculates Chapman University’s Marshall Toplansky, have paid under the median income. Half of those fell under $40,000, a poverty wage in a high-cost state.
facts don't seem to matter anymore though
long haulers!
Somebody died at 41!
Never mind this happens with other viruses
The amount of economic effort required to prevent 1 more death matters, do you disagree?