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I am slightly encouraged that you, a duck, bizarrely started to convince yourself of a falsity, and perhaps your athletic department I’m giving too much credit, but it was without question a wholly uncompetitive laugher. Complete with him literally crying on the sidelines and asking Chip not to humiliate him on the anniversary.ntxduck said:
I remember the 2011 game being somewhat close...? Definitely the closest under sark. Although Oregon won rather easily in the end, say 34-17Gladstone said:Oregon won’t hire Sarkisian, they’re the only other fan base as dialed in as UW when it comes to sloppy Steve. Five straight wholly uncompetitive laughers, including the 2011 game honoring the 20th anni of 1991 in which he famously cried and begged Chip not to run the score up too badly.
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Jack's last season at UW was 2010.RaceBannon said:ntxduck said:
I remember the 2011 game being somewhat close...? Definitely the closest under sark. Although Oregon won rather easily in the end, say 34-17Gladstone said:Oregon won’t hire Sarkisian, they’re the only other fan base as dialed in as UW when it comes to sloppy Steve. Five straight wholly uncompetitive laughers, including the 2011 game honoring the 20th anni of 1991 in which he famously cried and begged Chip not to run the score up too badly.
Chip called off the dogs.
Was that the legendary 3 quarter Jack Lockner win?
35-35 after three yet the Ducks kept their 3 TD win streak alive by the end
55-35 I think
Jack once beat Ohio State at halftime and beat LSU after the first quarter
06 class/redshirt
07 Beat Syracuse NEM
08 Five reasons/owen 12
09 New HC new attitude
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He was on the Holtz ND staff and famously called it his dream job for many years, he requested in 2004 the same Prop 48 recruiting advantage that Lou had, and was denied. Kelly has made progress on that front although it is not at Lou levels.creepycoug said:
I remember back when people used to say that ND was the one team he'd leave "School X" for.Gladstone said:
Yep it’ll either be USC or Notre Dame for him, if anything.UW_Doog_Bot said:
He's still talking to USC my @Sources tell me.1to392831weretaken said:If Urban's not going to take Texas, I'll take him at his word that he's truly done.
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If you coach at Oregon you would still have to recruit against USC. Same reason he would never go to Oklahoma. Texas is the premier recruiting location in that conference and as a result UT always has advantages over OU.creepycoug said:
I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell he'd go to Oregon either. I just wonder if local talent would be the driving reason. There are other programs that don't have local talent production that are nonetheless a draw for a coach like Meyer. But those other programs have history on their side. Notre Dame comes to mind. Oregon doesn't have that.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Urban is likely not going to a state with weak talent production, even with Nike resources. He didn't need Nike to win trophies at Florida and Ohio St. Both were in strong recruiting states. Texas or USC would be much easier to win at than Oregon, not least because you wouldn't have to COMPETE against those schools if you had one of those jobs. And the recruiting is just too easy at those places.creepycoug said:
I agree with you about saying no to Texas and yes to Oregon just on blue blood bases; but the recruiting wouldn't be the issue. He is his own center of gravity for recruiting purposes, and Mario has shown he can do it.haie said:Oregon's last hires were Taggert and Christo, so now they're going to get Urban and force him to recruit to Eugene when he'll have LA and Austin as choices?
Skeptical.
They're rigth on top of Cali. Just like Oklahomo is right on top of Texas. They can get kids to come. I know this is your fundamental theory of everything, but your version of Iron Laws was always as bad as Auburndawg's.
Urban MF Meyer could take over Alaska Fairbanks and get kids from Louisiana to come play for him.
It would be much easier to dominate the Big 12 than the Pac, despite what some think, I think Texas is a better spot for him.
I also think Meyer, himself, is the recruiting attraction. Said another way, I don't think Urbs would be hesitant to go somewhere he wants to go because he's worried about recruiting outside the new backyard. I just don't think he'd ever want to go coach at Oregon.
Urban is the attraction, but if he takes a job it will be the easiest path to an NC at his third location.
USC or UT are way, way easier places to do that than Oregon.
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Imagine if ND promoted Urban and not Bob Davie lmao in 1997. Urban then went to Bowling Green as head coach where he took a team that had gone 4-18 the previous two years, and went 17-6 his first two years before leaving for MWC Utah. He then went undefeated at Utah and won the Fiesta by about 70.
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The only one of those I remember was in Seattle and a night game. LaMike was larunning through Washington like a hot knife through butter, and at some random point either late in the 3rd or damn early in the fourth, Chip most obviously took his foot off the gas. I remember everyone joking on the boards that he did it because he had a man-crush on dreamy Sark. I think Sark was at that tim building up to peak Joey Kitchen Sark banging waitresses two at a tim, so you you know he had his game going. Chip was apparently taken by his charm and boyish good looks.Gladstone said:
I am slightly encouraged that you, a duck, bizarrely started to convince yourself of a falsity, and perhaps your athletic department I’m giving too much credit, but it was without question a wholly uncompetitive laugher. Complete with him literally crying on the sidelines and asking Chip not to humiliate him on the anniversary.ntxduck said:
I remember the 2011 game being somewhat close...? Definitely the closest under sark. Although Oregon won rather easily in the end, say 34-17Gladstone said:Oregon won’t hire Sarkisian, they’re the only other fan base as dialed in as UW when it comes to sloppy Steve. Five straight wholly uncompetitive laughers, including the 2011 game honoring the 20th anni of 1991 in which he famously cried and begged Chip not to run the score up too badly.
Chip called off the dogs.
Anyway, I remember thinking to myself, "run it up, because when they next have the chance they are going to do it to you irregardless."
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Yeah that was 2011. I was literally on the sidelines for that game so I remember it extremely well. Sigh.creepycoug said:
The only one of those I remember was in Seattle and a night game. LaMike was larunning through Washington like a hot knife through butter, and at some random point either late in the 3rd or damn early in the fourth, Chip most obviously took his foot off the gas. I remember everyone joking on the boards that he did it because he had a man-crush on dreamy Sark. I think Sark was at that tim building up to peak Joey Kitchen Sark banging waitresses two at a tim, so you you know he had his game going. Chip was apparently taken by his charm and boyish good looks.Gladstone said:
I am slightly encouraged that you, a duck, bizarrely started to convince yourself of a falsity, and perhaps your athletic department I’m giving too much credit, but it was without question a wholly uncompetitive laugher. Complete with him literally crying on the sidelines and asking Chip not to humiliate him on the anniversary.ntxduck said:
I remember the 2011 game being somewhat close...? Definitely the closest under sark. Although Oregon won rather easily in the end, say 34-17Gladstone said:Oregon won’t hire Sarkisian, they’re the only other fan base as dialed in as UW when it comes to sloppy Steve. Five straight wholly uncompetitive laughers, including the 2011 game honoring the 20th anni of 1991 in which he famously cried and begged Chip not to run the score up too badly.
Chip called off the dogs.
Anyway, I remember thinking to myself, "run it up, because when they next have the chance they are going to do it to you irregardless."
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Good times/ No wonder they are BLOCKED outdnc said:
Jack's last season at UW was 2010.RaceBannon said:ntxduck said:
I remember the 2011 game being somewhat close...? Definitely the closest under sark. Although Oregon won rather easily in the end, say 34-17Gladstone said:Oregon won’t hire Sarkisian, they’re the only other fan base as dialed in as UW when it comes to sloppy Steve. Five straight wholly uncompetitive laughers, including the 2011 game honoring the 20th anni of 1991 in which he famously cried and begged Chip not to run the score up too badly.
Chip called off the dogs.
Was that the legendary 3 quarter Jack Lockner win?
35-35 after three yet the Ducks kept their 3 TD win streak alive by the end
55-35 I think
Jack once beat Ohio State at halftime and beat LSU after the first quarter
06 class/redshirt
07 Beat Syracuse NEM
08 Five reasons/owen 12
09 New HC new attitude
10 Holiday Bowel champ -
The Pac 12 was the premier conference in the land starting when Jim Owens invented west coast footballKingdome_Urinals said:
So funny back in 2004-2008 the Pac had Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly (at his peak), and Jim Harbaugh (at his peak). It was a great conference with great teams and coaches. In fact the coaches were so good that they got hired in the NFL and a couple of them got to the Super Bowl.creepycoug said:
You know, it seriously bothers me that this is true. There are a lot of great things about the Pac 12. It's just that football isn't one of them.RaceBannon said:Even though Oregon is backing into the title game I have to think that Mario is wondering about the future of Pac 12 football. You gotta go if they offer. Hell Jimmy would.
The Pac 12 is first timers like Jimmy and Rolo (NOGA about WSU), the recycled like Dorrell, the semi retired like Shaw, and a bunch of dreck like Clay and Bad Chippy.
And Jonathon Smith!
No fucking SEC coach is going to coach in the NFL, nor have they in the past with any success.
Stuff is cyclical, but just 10 years ago the Pac had the most innovative offenses and coaches in the game.
John McKay went on to Tampa Bay and built an expansion team into a NFC title game loser
Vermeil went to the Eagles and lost a Super Bowl then won one with the Rams
The NFL wanted James
John Robinson went to the Rams
The Pac 12 secret was the quarterbacks and the innovation. Bill Walsh coached Stanford twice.
The SEC turned the tied in 92 with the conference title game and by the end og the 90's the SEC was winning titles while WSU, UCLA, and Stanford were losing the Rose Bowl
I wanted to argue about SEC coaches not going to the NFL with success but I can't think of any that did. Its still a league where you want to be the 20 year legend if you can
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I've had a few people give me odd looks when I say this, but when I was a kid, the Rose Bowl seemed to me to belong to the Pac. So much so that I remember me and some others thinking that it was a hinderance to the conference to be tied to a bowl that was committed to the big, strong and fucking slow af Backwards Big 10. The old people loved the pageantry and tradition of Michigan and all that shit, but it was a killer for NC hopes unless things really worked out, which they rarely did.RaceBannon said:
The Pac 12 was the premier conference in the land starting when Jim Owens invented west coast footballKingdome_Urinals said:
So funny back in 2004-2008 the Pac had Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly (at his peak), and Jim Harbaugh (at his peak). It was a great conference with great teams and coaches. In fact the coaches were so good that they got hired in the NFL and a couple of them got to the Super Bowl.creepycoug said:
You know, it seriously bothers me that this is true. There are a lot of great things about the Pac 12. It's just that football isn't one of them.RaceBannon said:Even though Oregon is backing into the title game I have to think that Mario is wondering about the future of Pac 12 football. You gotta go if they offer. Hell Jimmy would.
The Pac 12 is first timers like Jimmy and Rolo (NOGA about WSU), the recycled like Dorrell, the semi retired like Shaw, and a bunch of dreck like Clay and Bad Chippy.
And Jonathon Smith!
No fucking SEC coach is going to coach in the NFL, nor have they in the past with any success.
Stuff is cyclical, but just 10 years ago the Pac had the most innovative offenses and coaches in the game.
John McKay went on to Tampa Bay and built an expansion team into a NFC title game loser
Vermeil went to the Eagles and lost a Super Bowl then won one with the Rams
The NFL wanted James
John Robinson went to the Rams
The Pac 12 secret was the quarterbacks and the innovation. Bill Walsh coached Stanford twice.
The SEC turned the tied in 92 with the conference title game and by the end og the 90's the SEC was winning titles while WSU, UCLA, and Stanford were losing the Rose Bowl
I wanted to argue about SEC coaches not going to the NFL with success but I can't think of any that did. Its still a league where you want to be the 20 year legend if you can
Spurrior and Saban failed in the NFL
That is all to say that I always fully expected whatever P10 team showed up to win the RB. It felt automatic and birthright. Of course, now I know that was just an era, and eras change.
The other thing was that the P10 did well when they played good teams OOC. USC especially always represented well, other than that 14 year losing streak to the Irish, which I honestly can't explain because it wasn't that ND was good or SC bad all those years.
And QBs. There was a tim when NFL QBs more often than not came out of this conference.
