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How can Mr. Run The Damn Ball have a team come out so flat two weeks in a row?

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  • NoWarningJustDawg
    NoWarningJustDawg Member Posts: 1,000

    Coaches have to have a ton of belief in themselves and their system. IMO sometimes it is easier for us to see that changes need to be made than for the coaches to see/admit it..

    If you insist on a bend don't break wait for mistakes defense against a power running and efficient passing team that rarely makes mistakes, you have to take them out of their game. An explosive UW offense (sorry Baze) would put pressure on the Tree to pass and score/risk more. NOT running into the teeth of the defense in stubborn fashion when all five OL are new or in new positions.

    Add in the high amount of losses on the DL to draft/injury, and suddenly the problems at LB become glaring. Basically this is a very talented, flawed team with a few major holes that will keep them from being elite. Unfortunately stubborn coaches appears to be one of them. Eh, but I'm probably wrong; what do I know.

    TL;dr - UW vs Tree is The Definition Of Insanity, basically...

    If Pete was still the coach, we'd be sitting here right now blaming the lack of fight on Pete's constipated personality. But Lake's forte is supposed to be swagger and fire.
    I guess what I didn't make clear is IMO they're not flat. They're flawed. And frankly I think that is more damning than believing they are coming out flat.

    So, no, I do not think "just play harder guys!" is the answer, and I rarely thought that about Petersen either. But we can agree to disagree, no biggie.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,850 Founders Club

    Coaches have to have a ton of belief in themselves and their system. IMO sometimes it is easier for us to see that changes need to be made than for the coaches to see/admit it..

    If you insist on a bend don't break wait for mistakes defense against a power running and efficient passing team that rarely makes mistakes, you have to take them out of their game. An explosive UW offense (sorry Baze) would put pressure on the Tree to pass and score/risk more. NOT running into the teeth of the defense in stubborn fashion when all five OL are new or in new positions.

    Add in the high amount of losses on the DL to draft/injury, and suddenly the problems at LB become glaring. Basically this is a very talented, flawed team with a few major holes that will keep them from being elite. Unfortunately stubborn coaches appears to be one of them. Eh, but I'm probably wrong; what do I know.

    TL;dr - UW vs Tree is The Definition Of Insanity, basically...

    If Pete was still the coach, we'd be sitting here right now blaming the lack of fight on Pete's constipated personality. But Lake's forte is supposed to be swagger and fire.
    I guess what I didn't make clear is IMO they're not flat. They're flawed. And frankly I think that is more damning than believing they are coming out flat.

    So, no, I do not think "just play harder guys!" is the answer, and I rarely thought that about Petersen either. But we can agree to disagree, no biggie.
    I'm not saying that's the only issue. But they are flat, flat, flat.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,676
    Stanford runs downhill, and plays downhill...arm tacklers need not apply...
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    Would a 4/3 defensive alignment be better suited as long as Bobby greggy still around?
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 13,014
    animate said:

    Would a 4/3 defensive alignment be better suited as long as Bobby greggy still around?

    Run a 5-1-5 with Ulo as the only LB.

    Or a 3-0-8 if we have 3 NTs
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,149 Standard Supporter
    not stopping the run, not enough qb pressure, too many special teams gaffes, secondary scheme issues or we're "young" there again and it's another pathetic doog excuse

    main issues IMO

    The playcalling isn't great, but it's not bad either

    and Morris isn't the issue at the moment
  • coach_pete_JPG
    coach_pete_JPG Member Posts: 1,218
    Who does Jimmy hand out the first participation balls to?
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    animate said:

    Would a 4/3 defensive alignment be better suited as long as Bobby greggy still around?

    Run a 5-1-5 with Ulo as the only LB.

    Or a 3-0-8 if we have 3 NTs
    Molden and Taylor should be down in the box on every play right next to Sirmon and Ulo helping them against a team like Stanford... and it should almost look like a 4-4 with Molden and Taylor always in the box.

    Instead we ran a small DL and put only 6 guys in the box against 7+ Stanford run on nearly every fucking play...
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245
    the problem with our defensive "scheme" is that it relies on high-end defensive lineman to do the job of 1.5 players and high end edge players that are disciplined to seal edges and contain and also put pressure.

    If we have the likes of Vita Vea and Gaines and outside like a 3rd year Smalls and ZTF/Tryon ... and BBK and Mason Foster/Donald Butler and our death row secondary then we would be awesome.

    Our defensive front can contain and our secondary can overmatch.

    But until the kids develop and everything comes together - then games against the likes of Stanford will tend to be like this.

    Stanford is strong at the beginning, and fresh. They can ram it down our throats. Confidence takes a long time to build and it takes a long time for Stanford to lose confidence and UW to build ... and if it's a big deficit to overcome it's tough for college players and a questionable coaching staff.

    There. That's my quick take.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    34 for 117
    23 for 254


    Pass the damn