Why Trump Might Become More Powerful Than Ever Outside the White House
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This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.RoadTrip said:What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?
"Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."
Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.
And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India. -
c'mon Race, it's a good take!RaceBannon said:Hondo's retarded twin
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For my money it really is this demographic split that has caused polarization to exacerbate the way it has these last couple decades. As culture, media, tech, and finance all consolidate in the same handful of coastal cities, huge swaths of Americans feel ignored, disrespected, and disconnected. And that's why you start to see these dumbfuck takes of "all Trump supporters are racist" from some on the left. Because they literally don't know what these peoples' lives are like, so it's the only explanation that makes sense to them.creepycoug said:
This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.RoadTrip said:What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?
"Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."
Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.
And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
That's why I'm all in on #yanggang. He's lived and worked on the ground in "both" Americas. He gets it, he gets the divide, and he understands how unhealthy it is for the country. -
It is a good take, and matches what I know personally. That was also the central poont of Bernie Goldberg's book 10-15 years ago.creepycoug said:
This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.RoadTrip said:What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?
"Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."
Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.
And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
5-6 years ago, that JournoList thing was 'uncovered' as a means of narrative coordination. Now, I don't think they even need that. They coordinate through the Twatter hivemind. -
The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins
You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message -
Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.
Mein Kampf is taken, btw. -
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Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.RaceBannon said:The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins
You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message -
Jesus. You're fagging out the thread.animate said:
c'mon Race, it's a good take!RaceBannon said:Hondo's retarded twin
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Speaking of fagging out the thread.HHusky said:Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.
Mein Kampf is taken, btw. -
The NWO is simply governments around the world consolidating the considerable power we? give them to keep us safe from whatever boogeyman is in the newscreepycoug said:
Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.RaceBannon said:The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins
You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message
There is a like minded approach to the "we know better than you" crowd. Bildenberg, the UN, G7 and the like are not sinister within themselves but it is where the discussions take place
There is a reason Trump is the turd in the punch bowl at those settings. Its not about money and power which he has enough of to be in the club. You have to agree with the club and that is where 2016 Trump got off script.
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What US Criminal Code #, Dazzler?HHusky said:Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.
Mein Kampf is taken, btw.
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Fags fag.Southerndawg said:
Speaking of fagging out the thread.HHusky said:Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.
Mein Kampf is taken, btw. -
HHusky said:
Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.
Mein Kampf is taken, btw.
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I can get behind that. It's been an issue since man began governing. Plato thought it made sense to let the smart people make the decisions. I guess it caught on.RaceBannon said:
The NWO is simply governments around the world consolidating the considerable power we? give them to keep us safe from whatever boogeyman is in the newscreepycoug said:
Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.RaceBannon said:The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins
You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message
There is a like minded approach to the "we know better than you" crowd. Bildenberg, the UN, G7 and the like are not sinister within themselves but it is where the discussions take place
There is a reason Trump is the turd in the punch bowl at those settings. Its not about money and power which he has enough of to be in the club. You have to agree with the club and that is where 2016 Trump got off script. -
Plato needed the safeties walked up.creepycoug said:
I can get behind that. It's been an issue since man began governing. Plato thought it made sense to let the smart people make the decisions. I guess it caught on.RaceBannon said:
The NWO is simply governments around the world consolidating the considerable power we? give them to keep us safe from whatever boogeyman is in the newscreepycoug said:
Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.RaceBannon said:The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins
You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message
There is a like minded approach to the "we know better than you" crowd. Bildenberg, the UN, G7 and the like are not sinister within themselves but it is where the discussions take place
There is a reason Trump is the turd in the punch bowl at those settings. Its not about money and power which he has enough of to be in the club. You have to agree with the club and that is where 2016 Trump got off script.
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No one cares about trump specifically
He was just the only dude who stood up to the absurd woke fucks -
Does anyone else get a weird vibe from HH with his “daddy” fixation?
It pops up in like 1/2 of that guys posts... -
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I'm good with that but it'll be 4 years from now he as another term.
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If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
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Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
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No.creepycoug said:
Jesus. You're fagging out the thread.animate said:
c'mon Race, it's a good take!RaceBannon said:Hondo's retarded twin
Contribute or gtfo. Stop fagging out ... You've done nothing. -
Winning by promoting shitty products and services! Boris knows this kind of branding.NorthwestFresh said:
Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
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I thought this was your business model?HHusky said:
Winning by promoting shitty products and services! Boris knows this kind of branding.NorthwestFresh said:
Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
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Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.NorthwestFresh said:
Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.
No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.
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It's going to be entertaining watching you attempt to defend Biden for the next four years.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.NorthwestFresh said:
Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.
No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.
If he charges for rallies, will you Tuggers pay?
But but but... -
I doubt his trail will last four years but you never know.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's going to be entertaining watching you attempt to defend Biden for the next four years.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.NorthwestFresh said:
Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.
No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.
If he charges for rallies, will you Tuggers pay?
But but but... -
It’s not my job to stop my offense. It’s your job to stop my offense. -Bobby BowdenUW_Doog_Bot said:
It's going to be entertaining watching you attempt to defend Biden for the next four years.Kingdome_Urinals said:
Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.NorthwestFresh said:
Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.Kingdome_Urinals said:If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.
No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.
If he charges for rallies, will you Tuggers pay?
But but but...