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Why Trump Might Become More Powerful Than Ever Outside the White House

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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    tuff to run for President from Prison
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,196
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    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,234
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    Nope. GOP wet dreams are just that

    Suicide is easy and they just proved it

    I'm not saying I think all that is going to happen, but it was an interesting read.
    It is an interesting read and potentially an accurate take. Thanks for posting @DerekJohnson.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    RoadTrip said:

    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."

    You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.

    Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.

    And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    nah ... this is what's gonna happen.

    Trump will get prosecuted for a myriad of things ... he'll fly over to Russia and Putin will grant him citizenship and Trump will live his last days posting on Twitter from a luxury condo in Moscow ... book it.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,801
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    animate said:

    nah ... this is what's gonna happen.

    Trump will get prosecuted for a myriad of things ... he'll fly over to Russia and Putin will grant him citizenship and Trump will live his last days posting on Twitter from a luxury condo in Moscow ... book it.

    Trump's not going to get prosecuted for anything.

    There's 70 million reasons why and even Crazy Joe knows it's not in his best interest to stoke their angst any time soon.


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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,214
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    Putin literally endorsed Biden for president
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Putin literally endorsed Biden for president

    Fact Check: TRUE
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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    Putin literally endorsed Biden for president

    putin is ahead of the curve ... he already backed trump years ago and everyone found out after the fact ... he's already moved on, he got what he wanted. Why was Trump deferring to Putin every chance he got?

    putin ain't KGB for nothin' ... c'mon you guys! He was trained for this ... and he lives for this and he made it all the way to top of Russian government, Russian history.

    He's playing Chess and you guys are still playing checkers.




    https://youtu.be/59RSLhdGWQM
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,214
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    Hondo's retarded twin
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    edited November 2020

    RoadTrip said:

    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."

    You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.

    Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.

    And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
    This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.
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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    Hondo's retarded twin

    c'mon Race, it's a good take!
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    RoadTrip said:

    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."

    You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.

    Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.

    And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
    This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.
    It is a good take, and matches what I know personally. That was also the central poont of Bernie Goldberg's book 10-15 years ago.

    5-6 years ago, that JournoList thing was 'uncovered' as a means of narrative coordination. Now, I don't think they even need that. They coordinate through the Twatter hivemind.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,214
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    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message

    Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,741
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    animate said:

    Hondo's retarded twin

    c'mon Race, it's a good take!
    Jesus. You're fagging out the thread.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,234
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    HHusky said:

    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.

    Speaking of fagging out the thread.
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