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Why Trump Might Become More Powerful Than Ever Outside the White House

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,047
    edited November 2020

    RoadTrip said:

    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."

    You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.

    Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.

    And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
    This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    Hondo's retarded twin

    c'mon Race, it's a good take!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    What's in it for the MSM? They're not getting on any of these BODs. They still make the same money whether a RAT or CON is in the WH. Why is the MSM so hell bent on globalism and being PRAVDA for the RATS?

    "Then in this mix of serious financial and military elites came the journalists from the mainstream media, the major metropolitan dailies (New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, etc.) and the top TV Networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS). The outliers were Fox News (now coming around to liberal thinking) and various individual talk radio hosts (Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Levin). The bulk of the action is on the Democrat party side of the ledger and they all promote a party that now serves the interests of big money, paying lip service to the “workers” and unions."

    You're thinking in terms that are way too conspiratorial when the answer is much simpler.

    Most folks who work for the big media outlets are cut from the same cloth - urban, highly educated, with upper middle class backgrounds. Believe it or not, their personal politics tend to actually favor globalization, not because they personally have anything to gain, but because they genuinely believe it's good policy.

    And that's where so much of the disconnect comes from. We're now multiple generations in to a "media class" that has increasingly grown up in elite urban circles, and they've become more and more unfamiliar with people who live in rural areas who don't have that same shared experience, and who personally suffered from that shifting global economy. It's not nefarious and it's not a money grab, they just simply don't know who these people in "other America" are, anymore than they know someone in rural India.
    This is actually a pretty damn good take. You could quibble with one or two items; but overall seems like the right answer. A lot of us don't believe - call in skepticism - that people huddle up and organize and conspire all that often. The best explanation is usually the one right in front of you. Demographics are demographics for a reason.
    It is a good take, and matches what I know personally. That was also the central poont of Bernie Goldberg's book 10-15 years ago.

    5-6 years ago, that JournoList thing was 'uncovered' as a means of narrative coordination. Now, I don't think they even need that. They coordinate through the Twatter hivemind.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904
    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,047

    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message

    Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,047
    animate said:

    Hondo's retarded twin

    c'mon Race, it's a good take!
    Jesus. You're fagging out the thread.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.

    Speaking of fagging out the thread.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club

    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message

    Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.
    The NWO is simply governments around the world consolidating the considerable power we? give them to keep us safe from whatever boogeyman is in the news

    There is a like minded approach to the "we know better than you" crowd. Bildenberg, the UN, G7 and the like are not sinister within themselves but it is where the discussions take place

    There is a reason Trump is the turd in the punch bowl at those settings. Its not about money and power which he has enough of to be in the club. You have to agree with the club and that is where 2016 Trump got off script.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,085
    edited November 2020
    HHusky said:

    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.

    What US Criminal Code #, Dazzler?

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.

    Speaking of fagging out the thread.
    Fags fag.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    edited November 2020
    HHusky said:

    Daddy can write his political tome in prison. That's not unprecedented and he just needs a working title.

    Mein Kampf is taken, btw.


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,047

    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message

    Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.
    The NWO is simply governments around the world consolidating the considerable power we? give them to keep us safe from whatever boogeyman is in the news

    There is a like minded approach to the "we know better than you" crowd. Bildenberg, the UN, G7 and the like are not sinister within themselves but it is where the discussions take place

    There is a reason Trump is the turd in the punch bowl at those settings. Its not about money and power which he has enough of to be in the club. You have to agree with the club and that is where 2016 Trump got off script.

    I can get behind that. It's been an issue since man began governing. Plato thought it made sense to let the smart people make the decisions. I guess it caught on.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,085

    The NY Times, Wa Po, and the three networks reported the same stories on the same day for decades before the internet was swimming around in Al Gore's loins

    You don't need to gather together in a room to coordinate the message

    Not the message. But coordinating the new world order takes at least a handful of people meeting on at least a couple of Zoom calls to iron out at least a few details. That's my point.
    The NWO is simply governments around the world consolidating the considerable power we? give them to keep us safe from whatever boogeyman is in the news

    There is a like minded approach to the "we know better than you" crowd. Bildenberg, the UN, G7 and the like are not sinister within themselves but it is where the discussions take place

    There is a reason Trump is the turd in the punch bowl at those settings. Its not about money and power which he has enough of to be in the club. You have to agree with the club and that is where 2016 Trump got off script.

    I can get behind that. It's been an issue since man began governing. Plato thought it made sense to let the smart people make the decisions. I guess it caught on.
    Plato needed the safeties walked up.

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    No one cares about trump specifically

    He was just the only dude who stood up to the absurd woke fucks
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    edited November 2020
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter
    I'm good with that but it'll be 4 years from now he as another term.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,799
    edited November 2020
    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited November 2020

    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.

    Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.
  • animate
    animate Member Posts: 4,245

    animate said:

    Hondo's retarded twin

    c'mon Race, it's a good take!
    Jesus. You're fagging out the thread.
    No.

    Contribute or gtfo. Stop fagging out ... You've done nothing.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.

    Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.
    Winning by promoting shitty products and services! Boris knows this kind of branding.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.

    Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.
    Winning by promoting shitty products and services! Boris knows this kind of branding.
    I thought this was your business model?
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,799

    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.

    Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.
    Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.

    He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.

    No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.

    If he charges for rallies, will you Tuggers pay?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter

    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.

    Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.
    Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.

    He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.

    No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.

    If he charges for rallies, will you Tuggers pay?
    It's going to be entertaining watching you attempt to defend Biden for the next four years.

    But but but...
    I doubt his trail will last four years but you never know.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,085

    If Trump University, Trump Steaks, and all other Trump business are any indication, Donald may have a tough time out there. Not exactly a business genius, focus is a problem.

    Found they guy who doesn’t know how branding and licensing trademarks work. Oh, @HHusky too since he upvoted this pathetic nonsense.
    Ok, do you want to talk Trump golf courses and casinos? Money losers.

    He can put his face on cameras, tweet stuff, and do rallies. But that's about it. He can only do stuff directly about him.

    No other organizational or managerial skills, at all.

    If he charges for rallies, will you Tuggers pay?
    It's going to be entertaining watching you attempt to defend Biden for the next four years.

    But but but...
    It’s not my job to stop my offense. It’s your job to stop my offense. -Bobby Bowden