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Biden transition team releases new energy plan

RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,842 Founders Club

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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,756

    Democrats are supposedly the party that listens to science, yet they oppose nuclear energy.

    Science tells us nuclear energy is safe, clean, and not only way cheaper than wind/solar, but even reasonably cheaper than coal. And as coal production costs increase, nuclear production costs decrease as there has been more continuous opportunities to further increase the output of nuclear energy by discovering more efficient processes.

    But nope...if we build more nuclear power plants it's going to be Chernobyl all over again because we apparently are no better than Soviet controlled Ukraine in the 1980s. Fukushima was more recent, but only 1 person died because of that meltdown and only a handful of people sustained injuries. The US would never build a reactor in a location that was prone to earthquakes in the first place. The USNRC even warned Japan of that way back in 1990, and yet Japan did nothing in response. And that's just scratching the surface of the risks the Fukushima plant was facing and were warned about that US nuclear reactors would never have.

    In short, nuclear is safe. It's straight up irrational fear based on ignorance that leads to nuclear energy not having as much support as it should. We should be replacing all coal plants with nuclear, and we should be doing it yesterday.

    I'm all for nuclear power, but you still have the problem of storing the stuff. Smart-ass me says put it on a weather balloon that can float to space and somehow and launch it to the sun.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507 Standard Supporter

    Democrats are supposedly the party that listens to science, yet they oppose nuclear energy.

    Science tells us nuclear energy is safe, clean, and not only way cheaper than wind/solar, but even reasonably cheaper than coal. And as coal production costs increase, nuclear production costs decrease as there has been more continuous opportunities to further increase the output of nuclear energy by discovering more efficient processes.

    But nope...if we build more nuclear power plants it's going to be Chernobyl all over again because we apparently are no better than Soviet controlled Ukraine in the 1980s. Fukushima was more recent, but only 1 person died because of that meltdown and only a handful of people sustained injuries. The US would never build a reactor in a location that was prone to earthquakes in the first place. The USNRC even warned Japan of that way back in 1990, and yet Japan did nothing in response. And that's just scratching the surface of the risks the Fukushima plant was facing and were warned about that US nuclear reactors would never have.

    In short, nuclear is safe. It's straight up irrational fear based on ignorance that leads to nuclear energy not having as much support as it should. We should be replacing all coal plants with nuclear, and we should be doing it yesterday.

    I'm all for nuclear power, but you still have the problem of storing the stuff. Smart-ass me says put it on a weather balloon that can float to space and somehow and launch it to the sun.
    https://www.epa.gov/radiation/what-yucca-mountain-repository

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,831 Founders Club
    Swaye said:




    Meh. Even Obama couldn't stop the fracking revolution. That dino juice is coming out of the ground and into yer Jeeps whether Biden is President or not.


  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,988

    Democrats are supposedly the party that listens to science, yet they oppose nuclear energy.

    Science tells us nuclear energy is safe, clean, and not only way cheaper than wind/solar, but even reasonably cheaper than coal. And as coal production costs increase, nuclear production costs decrease as there has been more continuous opportunities to further increase the output of nuclear energy by discovering more efficient processes.

    But nope...if we build more nuclear power plants it's going to be Chernobyl all over again because we apparently are no better than Soviet controlled Ukraine in the 1980s. Fukushima was more recent, but only 1 person died because of that meltdown and only a handful of people sustained injuries. The US would never build a reactor in a location that was prone to earthquakes in the first place. The USNRC even warned Japan of that way back in 1990, and yet Japan did nothing in response. And that's just scratching the surface of the risks the Fukushima plant was facing and were warned about that US nuclear reactors would never have.

    In short, nuclear is safe. It's straight up irrational fear based on ignorance that leads to nuclear energy not having as much support as it should. We should be replacing all coal plants with nuclear, and we should be doing it yesterday.

    I'm all for nuclear power, but you still have the problem of storing the stuff. Smart-ass me says put it on a weather balloon that can float to space and somehow and launch it to the sun.
    Storage is an additional problem, but for the most part it's largely been figured out how to safely and efficiently store it. The problem with storage at this point is the same as what I mentioned above. People have an irrational fear of storing nuclear waste, even though the US and other countries like France have been doing it safely and efficiently for decades.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,730









    Idiotic not to use Nuclear
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,730

    Democrats are supposedly the party that listens to science, yet they oppose nuclear energy.

    Science tells us nuclear energy is safe, clean, and not only way cheaper than wind/solar, but even reasonably cheaper than coal. And as coal production costs increase, nuclear production costs decrease as there has been more continuous opportunities to further increase the output of nuclear energy by discovering more efficient processes.

    But nope...if we build more nuclear power plants it's going to be Chernobyl all over again because we apparently are no better than Soviet controlled Ukraine in the 1980s. Fukushima was more recent, but only 1 person died because of that meltdown and only a handful of people sustained injuries. The US would never build a reactor in a location that was prone to earthquakes in the first place. The USNRC even warned Japan of that way back in 1990, and yet Japan did nothing in response. And that's just scratching the surface of the risks the Fukushima plant was facing and were warned about that US nuclear reactors would never have.

    In short, nuclear is safe. It's straight up irrational fear based on ignorance that leads to nuclear energy not having as much support as it should. We should be replacing all coal plants with nuclear, and we should be doing it yesterday.

    Well there is or was a Nuke plant in LA... so yes we do build them in earthquake zones. But there are ways to do it now that are much safer. The Navy has a few hundred reactors alone on moveable platforms
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,536 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2020
    Goduckies said:









    Idiotic not to use Nuclear
    Clean coal and nuclear.

    Won't matter since China and India don't have to play.

    Same reason I laugh at Mrs. Throbber v2.0 every time she meticulously rinses the recylables and tenderly places them in the designated bin so she feels good about saving the planet. In the same amount of time 50 Chinese and Dot Indians have polluted the air or sent non-decomposable plastic onto a barge to deposit out in the ocean.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,664

    Democrats are supposedly the party that listens to science, yet they oppose nuclear energy.

    Science tells us nuclear energy is safe, clean, and not only way cheaper than wind/solar, but even reasonably cheaper than coal. And as coal production costs increase, nuclear production costs decrease as there has been more continuous opportunities to further increase the output of nuclear energy by discovering more efficient processes.

    But nope...if we build more nuclear power plants it's going to be Chernobyl all over again because we apparently are no better than Soviet controlled Ukraine in the 1980s. Fukushima was more recent, but only 1 person died because of that meltdown and only a handful of people sustained injuries. The US would never build a reactor in a location that was prone to earthquakes in the first place. The USNRC even warned Japan of that way back in 1990, and yet Japan did nothing in response. And that's just scratching the surface of the risks the Fukushima plant was facing and were warned about that US nuclear reactors would never have.

    In short, nuclear is safe. It's straight up irrational fear based on ignorance that leads to nuclear energy not having as much support as it should. We should be replacing all coal plants with nuclear, and we should be doing it yesterday.

    I'm all for nuclear power, but you still have the problem of storing the stuff. Smart-ass me says put it on a weather balloon that can float to space and somehow and launch it to the sun.
    Well the Federal government did build a multi-billion dollar long term nuke waste disposal facility in Nevada but then never used it because of Obama and Harry Reid. Despite the fact that the "science" showed it to be by far the safest and most secure waste storage facility in the world.
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