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Victor Davis Hanson | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,541 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2020
    Swaye said:

    Listening to this now. Super interesting. Hanson rightly sounding the alarm that going back to the old GOP is going to fail miserably. Calls the GOP "noble losers." Nailed it. GOP has a big problem. How do you keep the old Trump coalition together but do it in a less firebrand way? I think the GOP is fucked, but what do I know?

    The 'new' GOP is Dan Crenshaw, #mynoem, Wesley Hunt, Kim Klacik, Candace Owen, Tim Scott, Nikki Hailey, Burgess, MY MAN!, et. al. Big boner on all the former military guys stepping up and all the libs like Bret Weinstein who got cancelled. Never Forget.

    Wellbye.gif, Mittens. GTFO.

    Come on board, #mytulsi. There's room for common sense in the Big Tent in my sweatpants.

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,203 Swaye's Wigwam
    VDH is not a never Trumper and reckon is

    Swaye said:

    Listening to this now. Super interesting. Hanson rightly sounding the alarm that going back to the old GOP is going to fail miserably. Calls the GOP "noble losers." Nailed it. GOP has a big problem. How do you keep the old Trump coalition together but do it in a less firebrand way? I think the GOP is fucked, but what do I know?

    The 'new' GOP is Dan Crenshaw, #mynoem, Wesley Hunt, Kim Klacik, Candace Owen, Tim Scott, Nikki Hailey, Burgess, MY MAN!, et. al. Big boner on all the former military guys stepping up and all the libs like Bret Weinstein who got cancelled. Never Forget.

    Wellbye.gif, Mittens. GTFO.

    Come on board, #mytulsi. There's room for common sense in the Big Tent in my sweatpants.

    DeSantis is on there too.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,300
    Bob_C said:

    VDH is not a never Trumper and reckon is

    Swaye said:

    Listening to this now. Super interesting. Hanson rightly sounding the alarm that going back to the old GOP is going to fail miserably. Calls the GOP "noble losers." Nailed it. GOP has a big problem. How do you keep the old Trump coalition together but do it in a less firebrand way? I think the GOP is fucked, but what do I know?

    The 'new' GOP is Dan Crenshaw, #mynoem, Wesley Hunt, Kim Klacik, Candace Owen, Tim Scott, Nikki Hailey, Burgess, MY MAN!, et. al. Big boner on all the former military guys stepping up and all the libs like Bret Weinstein who got cancelled. Never Forget.

    Wellbye.gif, Mittens. GTFO.

    Come on board, #mytulsi. There's room for common sense in the Big Tent in my sweatpants.

    DeSantis is on there too.
    Desantis and Abbott are holding down the republic right now
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,541 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2020
    Bob_C said:

    VDH is not a never Trumper and reckon is

    Swaye said:

    Listening to this now. Super interesting. Hanson rightly sounding the alarm that going back to the old GOP is going to fail miserably. Calls the GOP "noble losers." Nailed it. GOP has a big problem. How do you keep the old Trump coalition together but do it in a less firebrand way? I think the GOP is fucked, but what do I know?

    The 'new' GOP is Dan Crenshaw, #mynoem, Wesley Hunt, Kim Klacik, Candace Owen, Tim Scott, Nikki Hailey, Burgess, MY MAN!, et. al. Big boner on all the former military guys stepping up and all the libs like Bret Weinstein who got cancelled. Never Forget.

    Wellbye.gif, Mittens. GTFO.

    Come on board, #mytulsi. There's room for common sense in the Big Tent in my sweatpants.

    DeSantis is on there too.
    Agreed.

    Ted Cruz will come into the tent, too. Strong tweet game. Hates the leftists.

    Little Mario would be wise to pivot away from Mittens. I dig the cleavage of the semi- hot Cuban gal who beatdown Donna Shalala, too.






  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club
    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited November 2020
    The same Nikki Haley who was Silent during the election cycle and is silent about the current fraud issues?

    The same Nikki Haley posing with every GOP House and Senate winner taking credit for their win(s)?
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    She did send out a Tweet today thanking Trump for the Pfizer vaccine this morning. That was a Special low tweak.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 62,379 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
    You're going to make me go look up internecine, huh?
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,541 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
    Mrs. Throbber v2.0 and I just talked about this ill-perceived 'mandate' just moments ago. She fucking hates Trump the guy. Likes his policies and the last four years have treated our family well. HATES Trump the person.

    The left better scurry back to the middle as fast as motherfucking possible because mynoem is warming up in the bullpen and there's most likely a shitload of middle/middle right candidates lining up for 2022.

    Hearing Biden use the words 'clear mandate' in his acceptance speech tells me they drink their own jizz.

    But I've watch the Dazzler shit poast here for years, so not surprised.



  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,300

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
    Mrs. Throbber v2.0 and I just talked about this ill-perceived 'mandate' just moments ago. She fucking hates Trump the guy. Likes his policies and the last four years have treated our family well. HATES Trump the person.

    The left better scurry back to the middle as fast as motherfucking possible because mynoem is warming up in the bullpen and there's most likely a shitload of middle/middle right candidates lining up for 2022.

    Hearing Biden use the words 'clear mandate' in his acceptance speech tells me they drink their own jizz.

    But I've watch the Dazzler shit poast here for years, so not surprised.



    It’s fucking amazing that all the prepared speeches and narrative expected a landslide.

    And when it became contested they said “fuck it, let’s shove it down their throats”

    If I’m behind the curtain in this, even I’m shocked with how people are going along with this.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
    You're going to make me go look up internecine, huh?
    It’s a good word
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,300

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
    You're going to make me go look up internecine, huh?
    It’s a good word
    It used to be called a posi-dawg
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,479 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    Dems have some internecine bloodshed coming. They’re starting to convince themselves they have a mandate but there’s at least two factions claiming the mandate.
    The women are getting started

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,203 Swaye's Wigwam
    Biden saying they have a mandate is completely laughable.

    He ran on fucking covid is bad and Trump is bad. He was all over the place on healthcare, courts, energy and the environment.

    To have a mandate you have to have a clear message and clear support for the issue. He has neither and it’s not even close.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,985
    His mandate is whatever Harris and the squad tell him it is. Pelosi has lost control of her yap dogs. More congressional bleeding to come....
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,844
    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    At this point I’m not sure anyone is fighting for the soul for real.

    They need to realize the TSIO for Trump and move every asset they have into Georgia and throw theyre weight around to make sure that the same Bullshit that happened on 11/3, doesn’t happen in January.

  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter
    Kaepsknee said:

    Swaye said:

    The fight for the soul (if there is one) of the GOP should be epic. I think the DNC has the same fight going on - moderates vs true beliebers. Both parties are pretty fractured right now.

    Trumpism vs. Loveable Losers
    Moderate Dems vs. SJW woke socialist mob

    Should be entertaining.

    At this point I’m not sure anyone is fighting for the soul for real.

    They need to realize the TSIO for Trump and move every asset they have into Georgia and throw theyre weight around to make sure that the same Bullshit that happened on 11/3, doesn’t happen in January.

    This. Win GA Senate, nothing else matters.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,844
    Bob_C said:

    Biden saying they have a mandate is completely laughable.

    He ran on fucking covid is bad and Trump is bad. He was all over the place on healthcare, courts, energy and the environment.

    To have a mandate you have to have a clear message and clear support for the issue. He has neither and it’s not even close.


    Considering all the down ballot seats gained by Republicans, It was also a rejection of the SDA agenda. If the Dem party lets them take over before 2022, it will be a bloodbath of lost Dem seats in Congress.
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