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WSDOT: Too few minorities, women on tunnel project

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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    People coming from poorer areas generally go to high schools that aren't as good as those from more affluent areas.

    In Seattle you can look a schools like Garfield, Rainier Beach, Cleveland. These are minority heavy schools. If a kid can do well with that kind of disadvantage I think they deserve a boost in the admissions process.

    Great implicit racism from a guilty white typical Seattle liberal as always.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 65,231 Founders Club
    (Garfield) had a silver medal of distinction from U.S. News and World Report in 2008 and 2009 for being among the top-performing high schools in terms of college readiness.[12] The school is noted for producing a number of National Merit Scholars each year,[5] and Garfield consistently produces more National Merit Scholars each year than any other public school in Washington state.[13] Garfield frequently competes for the highest number of National Merit Scholars of any school in the state, including private schools.

  • Why are we even building a tunnel? Waterfront streets would be much bettter.

    Also, AA is necessary.

    I find the trust fund babies who lack any real skills getting jobs on Wall Street because of dad much more appalling.

    Self loathing is sad
    Look, AA isn't perfect and there are egregous examples of its misuse popping up. For instance wealthy African Americans students are a huge benefactor in the college admissions process.

    I don't like that it makes people too beholden to their background although they may have different views.

    But there's something to be said about "critical mass" in education and the socioeconomic intentions of the law.

    I imagine it will become less important over time.

    Justice O'Connor's opinion in Grutter v Bollinger is a good read.
    You've reached critical mass when an African-American guy gets elected to the Presidency twice.

    Hope this helps.
    Disagree. I can only speak about AA from an educational standpoint, but if everything went completely to merit based there would be huge disadvantages.
    Disagree. You're failing there too. A typical guilty white Seattle liberal knows nothing about Affirmative Action in the educational system.
    Huh. I've been surrounded by AA beneficiaries since middle school. Without a doubt I feel my education was supplemented as a result.
    Your recent efforts on the General bored clearly suggest otherwise.
    Disagree. Taking on out of touch old white men is like candy from a baby.
  • People coming from poorer areas generally go to high schools that aren't as good as those from more affluent areas.

    In Seattle you can look a schools like Garfield, Rainier Beach, Cleveland. These are minority heavy schools. If a kid can do well with that kind of disadvantage I think they deserve a boost in the admissions process.

    Great implicit racism from a guilty white typical Seattle liberal as always.
    I must have missed where minorities aren't more likely to live in poverty.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Why are we even building a tunnel? Waterfront streets would be much bettter.

    Also, AA is necessary.

    I find the trust fund babies who lack any real skills getting jobs on Wall Street because of dad much more appalling.

    Self loathing is sad
    Look, AA isn't perfect and there are egregous examples of its misuse popping up. For instance wealthy African Americans students are a huge benefactor in the college admissions process.

    I don't like that it makes people too beholden to their background although they may have different views.

    But there's something to be said about "critical mass" in education and the socioeconomic intentions of the law.

    I imagine it will become less important over time.

    Justice O'Connor's opinion in Grutter v Bollinger is a good read.
    You've reached critical mass when an African-American guy gets elected to the Presidency twice.

    Hope this helps.
    Disagree. I can only speak about AA from an educational standpoint, but if everything went completely to merit based there would be huge disadvantages.
    Disagree. You're failing there too. A typical guilty white Seattle liberal knows nothing about Affirmative Action in the educational system.
    Huh. I've been surrounded by AA beneficiaries since middle school. Without a doubt I feel my education was supplemented as a result.
    Your recent efforts on the General bored clearly suggest otherwise.
    Disagree. Taking on out of touch old white men is like candy from a baby.
    Then why do they keep stealing your lunch money?
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    People coming from poorer areas generally go to high schools that aren't as good as those from more affluent areas.

    In Seattle you can look a schools like Garfield, Rainier Beach, Cleveland. These are minority heavy schools. If a kid can do well with that kind of disadvantage I think they deserve a boost in the admissions process.

    Once again you speak of minorities like they are a peg below other people, as in you have no faith that they can accomplish things that everyone should be able to. If you have determination and drive you will succeed.
    That's the classic behavior of a typical guilty white Seattle liberal.

    At least Harvey Road (RIP) had the experience to make these arguments in a nuanced, sophisticated manner.
  • (Garfield) had a silver medal of distinction from U.S. News and World Report in 2008 and 2009 for being among the top-performing high schools in terms of college readiness.[12] The school is noted for producing a number of National Merit Scholars each year,[5] and Garfield consistently produces more National Merit Scholars each year than any other public school in Washington state.[13] Garfield frequently competes for the highest number of National Merit Scholars of any school in the state, including private schools.

    They have a good AP program. Everything else is poor.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,812

    People coming from poorer areas generally go to high schools that aren't as good as those from more affluent areas.

    In Seattle you can look a schools like Garfield, Rainier Beach, Cleveland. These are minority heavy schools. If a kid can do well with that kind of disadvantage I think they deserve a boost in the admissions process.

    Why do you hate Franklin?

    Of course, Garfield and Franklin are two of the best three public schools in the city.

  • Why are we even building a tunnel? Waterfront streets would be much bettter.

    Also, AA is necessary.

    I find the trust fund babies who lack any real skills getting jobs on Wall Street because of dad much more appalling.

    Self loathing is sad
    Look, AA isn't perfect and there are egregous examples of its misuse popping up. For instance wealthy African Americans students are a huge benefactor in the college admissions process.

    I don't like that it makes people too beholden to their background although they may have different views.

    But there's something to be said about "critical mass" in education and the socioeconomic intentions of the law.

    I imagine it will become less important over time.

    Justice O'Connor's opinion in Grutter v Bollinger is a good read.
    You've reached critical mass when an African-American guy gets elected to the Presidency twice.

    Hope this helps.
    Disagree. I can only speak about AA from an educational standpoint, but if everything went completely to merit based there would be huge disadvantages.
    Disagree. You're failing there too. A typical guilty white Seattle liberal knows nothing about Affirmative Action in the educational system.
    Huh. I've been surrounded by AA beneficiaries since middle school. Without a doubt I feel my education was supplemented as a result.
    Your recent efforts on the General bored clearly suggest otherwise.
    Disagree. Taking on out of touch old white men is like candy from a baby.
    Then why do they keep stealing your lunch money?
    My pockets are full.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    (Garfield) had a silver medal of distinction from U.S. News and World Report in 2008 and 2009 for being among the top-performing high schools in terms of college readiness.[12] The school is noted for producing a number of National Merit Scholars each year,[5] and Garfield consistently produces more National Merit Scholars each year than any other public school in Washington state.[13] Garfield frequently competes for the highest number of National Merit Scholars of any school in the state, including private schools.

    They have a good AP program. Everything else is poor.
    How would you know?
  • dnc said:

    People coming from poorer areas generally go to high schools that aren't as good as those from more affluent areas.

    In Seattle you can look a schools like Garfield, Rainier Beach, Cleveland. These are minority heavy schools. If a kid can do well with that kind of disadvantage I think they deserve a boost in the admissions process.

    Why do you hate Franklin?

    Of course, Garfield and Franklin are two of the best three public schools in the city.

    Ingraham, Chief Sealth, West Seattle...
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    People coming from poorer areas generally go to high schools that aren't as good as those from more affluent areas.

    In Seattle you can look a schools like Garfield, Rainier Beach, Cleveland. These are minority heavy schools. If a kid can do well with that kind of disadvantage I think they deserve a boost in the admissions process.

    Once again you speak of minorities like they are a peg below other people, as in you have no faith that they can accomplish things that everyone should be able to. If you have determination and drive you will succeed.
    I speak from a statistical position.

    The fact is class mobility is low and continues to decline.

    I don't understand why some hate policies that seek to reverse that trend.
  • (Garfield) had a silver medal of distinction from U.S. News and World Report in 2008 and 2009 for being among the top-performing high schools in terms of college readiness.[12] The school is noted for producing a number of National Merit Scholars each year,[5] and Garfield consistently produces more National Merit Scholars each year than any other public school in Washington state.[13] Garfield frequently competes for the highest number of National Merit Scholars of any school in the state, including private schools.

    They have a good AP program. Everything else is poor.
    How would you know?
    I have friends that went there. There's a wealthy white girl here at Midd that went through the AP program.
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    Why are we even building a tunnel? Waterfront streets would be much bettter.

    Also, AA is necessary.

    I find the trust fund babies who lack any real skills getting jobs on Wall Street because of dad much more appalling.

    Self loathing is sad
    Look, AA isn't perfect and there are egregous examples of its misuse popping up. For instance wealthy African Americans students are a huge benefactor in the college admissions process.

    I don't like that it makes people too beholden to their background although they may have different views.

    But there's something to be said about "critical mass" in education and the socioeconomic intentions of the law.

    I imagine it will become less important over time.

    Justice O'Connor's opinion in Grutter v Bollinger is a good read.
    You've reached critical mass when an African-American guy gets elected to the Presidency twice.

    Hope this helps.
    Disagree. I can only speak about AA from an educational standpoint, but if everything went completely to merit based there would be huge disadvantages.
    Disagree. You're failing there too. A typical guilty white Seattle liberal knows nothing about Affirmative Action in the educational system.
    Huh. I've been surrounded by AA beneficiaries since middle school. Without a doubt I feel my education was supplemented as a result.
    You really need to get the fuck out of Middlebury, VT and get into the real world. You may stick your nose up at my military experience, but I'll compare my understanding of disadvantaged minorities to yours any day. When you wake up in a room with 80 other guys every day, most of whom you would classify as disadvantaged, you get to know and understand them very quickly. Because Middlebury gave a scholarship to a half black kid with rich parents, who lives in general proximity to you, doesn't teach you shit.

    My bunkie in boot camp was a black kid from Mississippi who I taught to read. It was one of my greatest accomplishments.

    Now run along a go discuss income inequality at the Middlebury Starbucks.

  • Again I think there are problems with the law and how they limit people to their ethnic background, but in education, at least in the short term it should be applied.
  • Why are we even building a tunnel? Waterfront streets would be much bettter.

    Also, AA is necessary.

    I find the trust fund babies who lack any real skills getting jobs on Wall Street because of dad much more appalling.

    Self loathing is sad
    Look, AA isn't perfect and there are egregous examples of its misuse popping up. For instance wealthy African Americans students are a huge benefactor in the college admissions process.

    I don't like that it makes people too beholden to their background although they may have different views.

    But there's something to be said about "critical mass" in education and the socioeconomic intentions of the law.

    I imagine it will become less important over time.

    Justice O'Connor's opinion in Grutter v Bollinger is a good read.
    You've reached critical mass when an African-American guy gets elected to the Presidency twice.

    Hope this helps.
    Disagree. I can only speak about AA from an educational standpoint, but if everything went completely to merit based there would be huge disadvantages.
    Disagree. You're failing there too. A typical guilty white Seattle liberal knows nothing about Affirmative Action in the educational system.
    Huh. I've been surrounded by AA beneficiaries since middle school. Without a doubt I feel my education was supplemented as a result.
    You really need to get the fuck out of Middlebury, VT and get into the real world. You may stick your nose up at my military experience, but I'll compare my understanding of disadvantaged minorities to yours any day. When you wake up in a room with 80 other guys every day, most of whom you would classify as disadvantaged, you get to know and understand them very quickly. Because Middlebury gave a scholarship to a half black kid with rich parents, who lives in general proximity to you, doesn't teach you shit.

    My bunkie in boot camp was a black kid from Mississippi who I taught to read. It was one of my greatest accomplishments.

    Now run along a go discuss income inequality at the Middlebury Starbucks.

    Why had he previously never been taught to read?

    Tell me. The answer ain't pretty.
  • uw2010uw2010 Member Posts: 940
    If I wear blackface will this augment my career growth?
  • CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited January 2014
    uw2010 said:

    If I wear blackface will this augment my career growth?

    What kind of community did you grow up in? Do you have an ID? Did you attend Garfield but avoid AP classes?
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    Why are we even building a tunnel? Waterfront streets would be much bettter.

    Also, AA is necessary.

    I find the trust fund babies who lack any real skills getting jobs on Wall Street because of dad much more appalling.

    Self loathing is sad
    Look, AA isn't perfect and there are egregous examples of its misuse popping up. For instance wealthy African Americans students are a huge benefactor in the college admissions process.

    I don't like that it makes people too beholden to their background although they may have different views.

    But there's something to be said about "critical mass" in education and the socioeconomic intentions of the law.

    I imagine it will become less important over time.

    Justice O'Connor's opinion in Grutter v Bollinger is a good read.
    You've reached critical mass when an African-American guy gets elected to the Presidency twice.

    Hope this helps.
    Disagree. I can only speak about AA from an educational standpoint, but if everything went completely to merit based there would be huge disadvantages.
    Disagree. You're failing there too. A typical guilty white Seattle liberal knows nothing about Affirmative Action in the educational system.
    Huh. I've been surrounded by AA beneficiaries since middle school. Without a doubt I feel my education was supplemented as a result.
    You really need to get the fuck out of Middlebury, VT and get into the real world. You may stick your nose up at my military experience, but I'll compare my understanding of disadvantaged minorities to yours any day. When you wake up in a room with 80 other guys every day, most of whom you would classify as disadvantaged, you get to know and understand them very quickly. Because Middlebury gave a scholarship to a half black kid with rich parents, who lives in general proximity to you, doesn't teach you shit.

    My bunkie in boot camp was a black kid from Mississippi who I taught to read. It was one of my greatest accomplishments.

    Now run along a go discuss income inequality at the Middlebury Starbucks.

    Why had he previously never been taught to read?

    Tell me. The answer ain't pretty.
    He was raised in a Shotgun House in Tupelo, MS. He didn't cause trouble and was passed along until he dropped out of school.
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