Cal is scoring 100 on us. #Doomed

haie

FireCohen said:

haie said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

So i'm hearing a lot of sardonic discussion of how "we always lose to Cal" and I'm a little flumoxxxed by that.

We have OWNED Cal since the 1960's and have routinely not only taken their lunch money but also the north bay's best players for so many years that is comical.

Now i know that everyone in here has a flair for the kabuki theatre style expression of the most dramitic death scenes in Dostoevsky's femme fetale, but do you gys really think that we will lose this game?

I dont... I mean yah they have the return of most of their skill players on offense including a QB which i like and admire, and so is this why everyone seems to think they have a material advantage especially since we don't even "know" who our QB is or the exact details of what our offense will look like?

But really, when you look at the depth and strength of the quality of the athletes on both teams do you really think that CAL will win? Go DOOGS, go Dawgs. the line is Washington is favored by 6.5 points and I'm not tempted to bet the game but I think it's the Dawgs by 10. What do you think?

Lol. Did u not watch wtf happed the last 2 years. We with our stars had the advantage and still got our shit handed to us. Cal got a superior culture until they don’t. Evan weaver was the fucking man

Yeah dude. Got our shit handed to us.

It started as a joke and now it's just this embarrassing 12-like thing where talent doesn't matter and our players and coaches are really afraid of Cal's offense that necessitated running off their OC.

When the reality is that our team for stretches in 18 and the entirety of 19 was so dysfunctional and Cal STILL needed a ton of shit to go their way to beat us by a few points.

Loss is a Loss. Cal talked shit both times before the game and backed it up by beating UW.

They didn't talk shit before either game. They talked it after like OSU or WSU or fucking CAL would do.

haie

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

So i'm hearing a lot of sardonic discussion of how "we always lose to Cal" and I'm a little flumoxxxed by that.

We have OWNED Cal since the 1960's and have routinely not only taken their lunch money but also the north bay's best players for so many years that is comical.

Now i know that everyone in here has a flair for the kabuki theatre style expression of the most dramitic death scenes in Dostoevsky's femme fetale, but do you gys really think that we will lose this game?

I dont... I mean yah they have the return of most of their skill players on offense including a QB which i like and admire, and so is this why everyone seems to think they have a material advantage especially since we don't even "know" who our QB is or the exact details of what our offense will look like?

But really, when you look at the depth and strength of the quality of the athletes on both teams do you really think that CAL will win? Go DOOGS, go Dawgs. the line is Washington is favored by 6.5 points and I'm not tempted to bet the game but I think it's the Dawgs by 10. What do you think?

Lol. Did u not watch wtf happed the last 2 years. We with our stars had the advantage and still got our shit handed to us. Cal got a superior culture until they don’t. Evan weaver was the fucking man

Yes with all due respect because you are a high-quality gy and I recognize and honor that, that that is exactly the point, i DID watch what happened the last two years and also the last freaking 60. The simple fact is that they do not have the athletes that we do or the talent at the skill positions or the depth on either or both lines that we do, and they never do. We should win 80% of the time [whenever our recruiting has been decent] and we have and we will as long as that trend continues. It's like Washington State, there are times when either side of the ball looks pretty damn good but really they do not have the depth and quality of personnel to compete yet with the dawgs. I don't feel like I'm being doogish, if you simply look at the quality and quantity of the personnel, it's not close.

I get your point though... we will see.

we lost with a better roster, I hope we win but they way UW lost for the past two years has been very discouraging they just rolled over and could not put away a team that was limited talentwise

Yeah it's called football. It's like "puck luck" in hockey but less religious.

Fix the offense. Not hard to do. Last two games aren't even close.

Really Pete is to blame for this by pulling Browning after he at least proved he could do something with the td pass to Ty Jones. We win an ugly game like UCLA that year if Pete doesn't shit himself.

dtd

haie said:

FireCohen said:

haie said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

So i'm hearing a lot of sardonic discussion of how "we always lose to Cal" and I'm a little flumoxxxed by that.

We have OWNED Cal since the 1960's and have routinely not only taken their lunch money but also the north bay's best players for so many years that is comical.

Now i know that everyone in here has a flair for the kabuki theatre style expression of the most dramitic death scenes in Dostoevsky's femme fetale, but do you gys really think that we will lose this game?

I dont... I mean yah they have the return of most of their skill players on offense including a QB which i like and admire, and so is this why everyone seems to think they have a material advantage especially since we don't even "know" who our QB is or the exact details of what our offense will look like?

But really, when you look at the depth and strength of the quality of the athletes on both teams do you really think that CAL will win? Go DOOGS, go Dawgs. the line is Washington is favored by 6.5 points and I'm not tempted to bet the game but I think it's the Dawgs by 10. What do you think?

Lol. Did u not watch wtf happed the last 2 years. We with our stars had the advantage and still got our shit handed to us. Cal got a superior culture until they don’t. Evan weaver was the fucking man

Yeah dude. Got our shit handed to us.

It started as a joke and now it's just this embarrassing 12-like thing where talent doesn't matter and our players and coaches are really afraid of Cal's offense that necessitated running off their OC.

When the reality is that our team for stretches in 18 and the entirety of 19 was so dysfunctional and Cal STILL needed a ton of shit to go their way to beat us by a few points.

Loss is a Loss. Cal talked shit both times before the game and backed it up by beating UW.

They didn't talk shit before either game. They talked it after like OSU or WSU or fucking CAL would do.

Okay Orange Man.

https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/cal-football-video-evan-weaver-on-uw-we-ll-beat-em-that-s-what-we-do-Xqtfl2rVg0aF8ZV8TuqfBQ

dtd

DerekJohnson said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

sonics1993 said:

Jimmy is one cocky SOB I will give him that. Usually these types of coaches get served humble pie. This is going to be an interesting coaching tenure.

@creepycoug

People forget that Don James liked to talk shit like Lane Kiffin. Probably didn't smoke weed

People also forget Don James came by his trash talk naturally: people forget that Don James was a Cane.

a 5'9" QB who set records

Babushka

DerekJohnson said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

sonics1993 said:

Jimmy is one cocky SOB I will give him that. Usually these types of coaches get served humble pie. This is going to be an interesting coaching tenure.

@creepycoug

People forget that Don James liked to talk shit like Lane Kiffin. Probably didn't smoke weed

People also forget Don James came by his trash talk naturally: people forget that Don James was a Cane.

a 5'9" QB who set records

BRB

Babushka

dtd said:

DerekJohnson said:

creepycoug said:

RaceBannon said:

sonics1993 said:

Jimmy is one cocky SOB I will give him that. Usually these types of coaches get served humble pie. This is going to be an interesting coaching tenure.

@creepycoug

People forget that Don James liked to talk shit like Lane Kiffin. Probably didn't smoke weed

People also forget Don James came by his trash talk naturally: people forget that Don James was a Cane.

a 5'9" QB who set records

JO

1to392831weretaken

haie said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

So i'm hearing a lot of sardonic discussion of how "we always lose to Cal" and I'm a little flumoxxxed by that.

We have OWNED Cal since the 1960's and have routinely not only taken their lunch money but also the north bay's best players for so many years that is comical.

Now i know that everyone in here has a flair for the kabuki theatre style expression of the most dramitic death scenes in Dostoevsky's femme fetale, but do you gys really think that we will lose this game?

I dont... I mean yah they have the return of most of their skill players on offense including a QB which i like and admire, and so is this why everyone seems to think they have a material advantage especially since we don't even "know" who our QB is or the exact details of what our offense will look like?

But really, when you look at the depth and strength of the quality of the athletes on both teams do you really think that CAL will win? Go DOOGS, go Dawgs. the line is Washington is favored by 6.5 points and I'm not tempted to bet the game but I think it's the Dawgs by 10. What do you think?

Lol. Did u not watch wtf happed the last 2 years. We with our stars had the advantage and still got our shit handed to us. Cal got a superior culture until they don’t. Evan weaver was the fucking man

Yes with all due respect because you are a high-quality gy and I recognize and honor that, that that is exactly the point, i DID watch what happened the last two years and also the last freaking 60. The simple fact is that they do not have the athletes that we do or the talent at the skill positions or the depth on either or both lines that we do, and they never do. We should win 80% of the time [whenever our recruiting has been decent] and we have and we will as long as that trend continues. It's like Washington State, there are times when either side of the ball looks pretty damn good but really they do not have the depth and quality of personnel to compete yet with the dawgs. I don't feel like I'm being doogish, if you simply look at the quality and quantity of the personnel, it's not close.

I get your point though... we will see.

we lost with a better roster, I hope we win but they way UW lost for the past two years has been very discouraging they just rolled over and could not put away a team that was limited talentwise

Yeah it's called football. It's like "puck luck" in hockey but less religious.

Fix the offense. Not hard to do. Last two games aren't even close.

Really Pete is to blame for this by pulling Browning after he at least proved he could do something with the td pass to Ty Jones. We win an ugly game like UCLA that year if Pete doesn't shit himself.

@haie, just take the L on this one. I guess you couldn't point to all of Call talking shit before the game, but Weaver definitely did. He was still butthurt for the way his recruitment went down and took it out on the Dawgs in both games.

And fuck right off with "puck luck." In both 2018 and 2019, Cal had no business even being IN those games. That it was close enough for luck of the bounce to affect the outcome was enough of an indictment. You're right about the baseline talent, which is why I don't understand why you'd be the chief apologist for those losses. Aggregate talent was a landslide in UW's favor, and the gameplan was total shit both years.

Where I agree with you--and I'm having to read HEAVILY between the lines of what you're putting down to reach this point, although @DawgsCanDance was more straightforward--is that just because Petersen shit the bed in consecutive years against Cal (yes, pulling the QB was fucking stupid), it doesn't follow that Lake will do the same. The talent gap between the two teams all but necessitates placing blame at the feet of the coaching staff, and the buck stops with the head man. If you have better players, you should win. If you have way better players, you should win by a lot. If you don't, it's not the players. Lake may suck and he may not, but--as far as "we always lose to Cal" is concerned, a change at the top was the most effective thing Washington could have done to throw old paradigms out the window.

TL;DR: Cal didn't win because of fucking luck. They (Weaver) talked shit, got on the field, then pushed in Petersen's stool. They knew Petersen's system, and Petersen was too stubborn to gameplan for that. With Petersen out and Lake in, Lake being a Petersen disciple, and this being the first game Lake will have the helm, it's yet to be seen just how big of a departure Lake will be. Without knowing that, the safest bet going into this game is to trust the talent disparity. QB experience mitigates that somewhat, but the talent disparity is just so big that it's not dooging to expect a win here.

RaceBannon

Canadawg

1to392831weretaken said:

haie said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

FireCohen said:

DawgsCanDance said:

So i'm hearing a lot of sardonic discussion of how "we always lose to Cal" and I'm a little flumoxxxed by that.

We have OWNED Cal since the 1960's and have routinely not only taken their lunch money but also the north bay's best players for so many years that is comical.

Now i know that everyone in here has a flair for the kabuki theatre style expression of the most dramitic death scenes in Dostoevsky's femme fetale, but do you gys really think that we will lose this game?

I dont... I mean yah they have the return of most of their skill players on offense including a QB which i like and admire, and so is this why everyone seems to think they have a material advantage especially since we don't even "know" who our QB is or the exact details of what our offense will look like?

But really, when you look at the depth and strength of the quality of the athletes on both teams do you really think that CAL will win? Go DOOGS, go Dawgs. the line is Washington is favored by 6.5 points and I'm not tempted to bet the game but I think it's the Dawgs by 10. What do you think?

Lol. Did u not watch wtf happed the last 2 years. We with our stars had the advantage and still got our shit handed to us. Cal got a superior culture until they don’t. Evan weaver was the fucking man

Yes with all due respect because you are a high-quality gy and I recognize and honor that, that that is exactly the point, i DID watch what happened the last two years and also the last freaking 60. The simple fact is that they do not have the athletes that we do or the talent at the skill positions or the depth on either or both lines that we do, and they never do. We should win 80% of the time [whenever our recruiting has been decent] and we have and we will as long as that trend continues. It's like Washington State, there are times when either side of the ball looks pretty damn good but really they do not have the depth and quality of personnel to compete yet with the dawgs. I don't feel like I'm being doogish, if you simply look at the quality and quantity of the personnel, it's not close.

I get your point though... we will see.

we lost with a better roster, I hope we win but they way UW lost for the past two years has been very discouraging they just rolled over and could not put away a team that was limited talentwise

Yeah it's called football. It's like "puck luck" in hockey but less religious.

Fix the offense. Not hard to do. Last two games aren't even close.

Really Pete is to blame for this by pulling Browning after he at least proved he could do something with the td pass to Ty Jones. We win an ugly game like UCLA that year if Pete doesn't shit himself.

@haie, just take the L on this one. I guess you couldn't point to all of Call talking shit before the game, but Weaver definitely did. He was still butthurt for the way his recruitment went down and took it out on the Dawgs in both games.

And fuck right off with "puck luck." In both 2018 and 2019, Cal had no business even being IN those games. That it was close enough for luck of the bounce to affect the outcome was enough of an indictment. You're right about the baseline talent, which is why I don't understand why you'd be the chief apologist for those losses. Aggregate talent was a landslide in UW's favor, and the gameplan was total shit both years.

Where I agree with you--and I'm having to read HEAVILY between the lines of what you're putting down to reach this point, although @DawgsCanDance was more straightforward--is that just because Petersen shit the bed in consecutive years against Cal (yes, pulling the QB was fucking stupid), it doesn't follow that Lake will do the same. The talent gap between the two teams all but necessitates placing blame at the feet of the coaching staff, and the buck stops with the head man. If you have better players, you should win. If you have way better players, you should win by a lot. If you don't, it's not the players. Lake may suck and he may not, but--as far as "we always lose to Cal" is concerned, a change at the top was the most effective thing Washington could have done to throw old paradigms out the window.

TL;DR: Cal didn't win because of fucking luck. They (Weaver) talked shit, got on the field, then pushed in Petersen's stool. They knew Petersen's system, and Petersen was too stubborn to gameplan for that. With Petersen out and Lake in, Lake being a Petersen disciple, and this being the first game Lake will have the helm, it's yet to be seen just how big of a departure Lake will be. Without knowing that, the safest bet going into this game is to trust the talent disparity. QB experience mitigates that somewhat, but the talent disparity is just so big that it's not dooging to expect a win here.

I dont think you know what TLDR means

Canadawg

Dawgs gonna cover -10 btw