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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,705 Founders Club
    TRUMP
    Swaye said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    Tequilla said:

    Swaye said:

    Texas will go blue at some point, but not today.

    I’m not 100% sure of that

    Any closeness at this point would be because Trump’s an ass and the party has likely moved a little too far right

    Republicans move more to the center and run on minimal government, respect people, and personal responsibility/freedoms and Texas doesn’t flip anytime soon

    It’s not California/New York that will flip Texas, it will be education infrastructure in Austin, Dallas, and Houston
    On a long enough timeline demographic changes (birthrates, etc) and cultural changes brought on by East Coasters fleeing taxes but then voting for more government when they get there ensures a blue Texas at some point. 10 years? 20 years? I have no idea. But it's coming. Brace yourself.



    Small caveat. If the GOP would do something to sway hispanics more fully this could all be averted. I have little faith they will.
    What happens faster, Texas blue or a west coast state red after an implosion
    I can't imagine what structural changes would be required to turn the west coast back red. I cannot wrap my mind around in it.
    They are on a trajectory that is unsustainable, curious how they respond
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  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,438 Founders Club
    PGOS
    Doogles said:

    Made the mistake of jokingly asking the lady at the Dropbox if she was going to throw my ballot in the trash.

    She was "insulted" and called her friends over to escort me away.

    It will definitely be thrown in the trash now.

    Why I never ask the cook if he's going to spit in my food. Because then he obviously will.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club
    TRUMP
    LoneStarDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    Tequilla said:

    Swaye said:

    Texas will go blue at some point, but not today.

    I’m not 100% sure of that

    Any closeness at this point would be because Trump’s an ass and the party has likely moved a little too far right

    Republicans move more to the center and run on minimal government, respect people, and personal responsibility/freedoms and Texas doesn’t flip anytime soon

    It’s not California/New York that will flip Texas, it will be education infrastructure in Austin, Dallas, and Houston
    On a long enough timeline demographic changes (birthrates, etc) and cultural changes brought on by East Coasters fleeing taxes but then voting for more government when they get there ensures a blue Texas at some point. 10 years? 20 years? I have no idea. But it's coming. Brace yourself.



    Small caveat. If the GOP would do something to sway hispanics more fully this could all be averted. I have little faith they will.
    What happens faster, Texas blue or a west coast state red after an implosion
    Wake me up when Detroit or any other shithole turns red.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    TRUMP
    LoneStarDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    Swaye said:

    Tequilla said:

    Swaye said:

    Texas will go blue at some point, but not today.

    I’m not 100% sure of that

    Any closeness at this point would be because Trump’s an ass and the party has likely moved a little too far right

    Republicans move more to the center and run on minimal government, respect people, and personal responsibility/freedoms and Texas doesn’t flip anytime soon

    It’s not California/New York that will flip Texas, it will be education infrastructure in Austin, Dallas, and Houston
    On a long enough timeline demographic changes (birthrates, etc) and cultural changes brought on by East Coasters fleeing taxes but then voting for more government when they get there ensures a blue Texas at some point. 10 years? 20 years? I have no idea. But it's coming. Brace yourself.



    Small caveat. If the GOP would do something to sway hispanics more fully this could all be averted. I have little faith they will.
    What happens faster, Texas blue or a west coast state red after an implosion
    I can't imagine what structural changes would be required to turn the west coast back red. I cannot wrap my mind around in it.
    They are on a trajectory that is unsustainable, curious how they respond
    At some point all the spending and communism will catch up to them, but likely decades from now. No idea how they respond then.
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,705 Founders Club
    TRUMP
    Never another Regan?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,558 Founders Club
    TRUMP
    The west coast isn't as far away from turning as it seems. It was solid red before it became blue

    Nothing lasts forever
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    TRUMP
    LoneStarDawg said:

    Never another Regan?

    I just don't know how you break through. Agree with Race all this shit is cyclical (in 2000 who saw Virginia, at the state level, blue?). Juts hard for me because conservatives are leaving there en masse it feels like making an already bad situation worse, and no conservative i know of want sot move their. In fact, the entire WC is essentially no go country for any right of center people I know.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    BIDEN
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    That's pretty in-line for Sumter County. They went 68.8% (I'll round up to 69) for Trump last time. The Villages is essentially a GOP playground for seniors.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    BIDEN
    Swaye said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    That's pretty in-line for Sumter County. They went 68.8% (I'll round up to 69) for Trump last time. The Villages is essentially a GOP playground for seniors.
    Note to self: Troll The Villages for trim in 30 years.
    The Villages is a well known hot spot for sexually active seniors. It's like a geriatric Cabo. I see a lot of HHers retiring here.

    https://nypost.com/2009/01/25/retire-to-the-bedroom/
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