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That's also a good point. Oregon would have used him like they used Jalen Redd, who is considerably smaller and lighter than Ahmed but very productive for the Ducks.haie said:
Since 2017 it's clear they had no clue on what to do with him. I mean it's doogs, there always another quarterback and BIG back to fill in the gaps.creepycoug said:
Fair point. He was a "set him up" offensive player. Those guys are good for breaking open a game or plunging the dagger. The problem is, he was profiled and billed as a running back. So a lot of doogs, including our very own BTP, thought he was the answer for losing Gaskin. That's where the disconnect tended to be.haie said:
What's wrong with having a hybrid player on your offense that is used in edge opportunities? Worked against a lot of teams, including SC and Oregon.creepycoug said:
Eh. You can hang this or that on Pete, but for Christ's stake I'm not sure I've seen a back more talented at running straight into the backs of his blockers than the Terrorist. That's just something that even his Dad would acknowledge.haie said:Pete ruined Ahmed.
When he said, "We'll be back better next year dawg fans" or something similar after the Vegas bowl I actually had hope he'd be back and they would use him correctly.
That's how shit Pete's offense was. Players had zero faith in it. Surprised Ty Jones and the other receivers are still even fucking here.
Beyond that, he went down on first contact of any kind, and was garbage in the clutch. Love him, hate him, or whatever, it's pretty hard to argue these points. These aren't "scheme" issues.
He was good for one thing: using a wide open lane outside and blasting through it. He just wasn't a running back and he was never going to be an elite wide receiver.
The context of the all chatter with you, BTP and Ballz was started by me making the rather obvious point that replacing Gaskin ... even replacing .75 of a Gaskin, was going to be a huge ? As usual, I was right.
He was elite at that. It's not my fault Pete and a bunch of doogs wanted him used the same way as Gaskin.
I never said he was replacing Gaskin. Richard Newton was supposed to do that. When he went down the offense went to shit tier fast, but that's a different discussion.
Fuller, Bachellia, Chico (bad chico) were used over him in a lot of situations I thought were made for his skillset.
It's really sad. My point is I don't blame him for declaring.
Oregon would have used him much better in the offense they ran the last two years where there's a lot of blocking and a solid swing game for him. -
That's who I was thinking of. Or Pittman.creepycoug said:
That's also a good point. Oregon would have used him like they used Jalen Redd, who is considerably smaller and lighter than Ahmed but very productive for the Ducks.haie said:
Since 2017 it's clear they had no clue on what to do with him. I mean it's doogs, there always another quarterback and BIG back to fill in the gaps.creepycoug said:
Fair point. He was a "set him up" offensive player. Those guys are good for breaking open a game or plunging the dagger. The problem is, he was profiled and billed as a running back. So a lot of doogs, including our very own BTP, thought he was the answer for losing Gaskin. That's where the disconnect tended to be.haie said:
What's wrong with having a hybrid player on your offense that is used in edge opportunities? Worked against a lot of teams, including SC and Oregon.creepycoug said:
Eh. You can hang this or that on Pete, but for Christ's stake I'm not sure I've seen a back more talented at running straight into the backs of his blockers than the Terrorist. That's just something that even his Dad would acknowledge.haie said:Pete ruined Ahmed.
When he said, "We'll be back better next year dawg fans" or something similar after the Vegas bowl I actually had hope he'd be back and they would use him correctly.
That's how shit Pete's offense was. Players had zero faith in it. Surprised Ty Jones and the other receivers are still even fucking here.
Beyond that, he went down on first contact of any kind, and was garbage in the clutch. Love him, hate him, or whatever, it's pretty hard to argue these points. These aren't "scheme" issues.
He was good for one thing: using a wide open lane outside and blasting through it. He just wasn't a running back and he was never going to be an elite wide receiver.
The context of the all chatter with you, BTP and Ballz was started by me making the rather obvious point that replacing Gaskin ... even replacing .75 of a Gaskin, was going to be a huge ? As usual, I was right.
He was elite at that. It's not my fault Pete and a bunch of doogs wanted him used the same way as Gaskin.
I never said he was replacing Gaskin. Richard Newton was supposed to do that. When he went down the offense went to shit tier fast, but that's a different discussion.
Fuller, Bachellia, Chico (bad chico) were used over him in a lot of situations I thought were made for his skillset.
It's really sad. My point is I don't blame him for declaring.
Oregon would have used him much better in the offense they ran the last two years where there's a lot of blocking and a solid swing game for him. -
I’m sure he’ll kill it at Miami then.haie said:
That's who I was thinking of. Or Pittman.creepycoug said:
That's also a good point. Oregon would have used him like they used Jalen Redd, who is considerably smaller and lighter than Ahmed but very productive for the Ducks.haie said:
Since 2017 it's clear they had no clue on what to do with him. I mean it's doogs, there always another quarterback and BIG back to fill in the gaps.creepycoug said:
Fair point. He was a "set him up" offensive player. Those guys are good for breaking open a game or plunging the dagger. The problem is, he was profiled and billed as a running back. So a lot of doogs, including our very own BTP, thought he was the answer for losing Gaskin. That's where the disconnect tended to be.haie said:
What's wrong with having a hybrid player on your offense that is used in edge opportunities? Worked against a lot of teams, including SC and Oregon.creepycoug said:
Eh. You can hang this or that on Pete, but for Christ's stake I'm not sure I've seen a back more talented at running straight into the backs of his blockers than the Terrorist. That's just something that even his Dad would acknowledge.haie said:Pete ruined Ahmed.
When he said, "We'll be back better next year dawg fans" or something similar after the Vegas bowl I actually had hope he'd be back and they would use him correctly.
That's how shit Pete's offense was. Players had zero faith in it. Surprised Ty Jones and the other receivers are still even fucking here.
Beyond that, he went down on first contact of any kind, and was garbage in the clutch. Love him, hate him, or whatever, it's pretty hard to argue these points. These aren't "scheme" issues.
He was good for one thing: using a wide open lane outside and blasting through it. He just wasn't a running back and he was never going to be an elite wide receiver.
The context of the all chatter with you, BTP and Ballz was started by me making the rather obvious point that replacing Gaskin ... even replacing .75 of a Gaskin, was going to be a huge ? As usual, I was right.
He was elite at that. It's not my fault Pete and a bunch of doogs wanted him used the same way as Gaskin.
I never said he was replacing Gaskin. Richard Newton was supposed to do that. When he went down the offense went to shit tier fast, but that's a different discussion.
Fuller, Bachellia, Chico (bad chico) were used over him in a lot of situations I thought were made for his skillset.
It's really sad. My point is I don't blame him for declaring.
Oregon would have used him much better in the offense they ran the last two years where there's a lot of blocking and a solid swing game for him. -
A once proud program, Miami is now where pro careers go to die.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I’m sure he’ll kill it at Miami then.haie said:
That's who I was thinking of. Or Pittman.creepycoug said:
That's also a good point. Oregon would have used him like they used Jalen Redd, who is considerably smaller and lighter than Ahmed but very productive for the Ducks.haie said:
Since 2017 it's clear they had no clue on what to do with him. I mean it's doogs, there always another quarterback and BIG back to fill in the gaps.creepycoug said:
Fair point. He was a "set him up" offensive player. Those guys are good for breaking open a game or plunging the dagger. The problem is, he was profiled and billed as a running back. So a lot of doogs, including our very own BTP, thought he was the answer for losing Gaskin. That's where the disconnect tended to be.haie said:
What's wrong with having a hybrid player on your offense that is used in edge opportunities? Worked against a lot of teams, including SC and Oregon.creepycoug said:
Eh. You can hang this or that on Pete, but for Christ's stake I'm not sure I've seen a back more talented at running straight into the backs of his blockers than the Terrorist. That's just something that even his Dad would acknowledge.haie said:Pete ruined Ahmed.
When he said, "We'll be back better next year dawg fans" or something similar after the Vegas bowl I actually had hope he'd be back and they would use him correctly.
That's how shit Pete's offense was. Players had zero faith in it. Surprised Ty Jones and the other receivers are still even fucking here.
Beyond that, he went down on first contact of any kind, and was garbage in the clutch. Love him, hate him, or whatever, it's pretty hard to argue these points. These aren't "scheme" issues.
He was good for one thing: using a wide open lane outside and blasting through it. He just wasn't a running back and he was never going to be an elite wide receiver.
The context of the all chatter with you, BTP and Ballz was started by me making the rather obvious point that replacing Gaskin ... even replacing .75 of a Gaskin, was going to be a huge ? As usual, I was right.
He was elite at that. It's not my fault Pete and a bunch of doogs wanted him used the same way as Gaskin.
I never said he was replacing Gaskin. Richard Newton was supposed to do that. When he went down the offense went to shit tier fast, but that's a different discussion.
Fuller, Bachellia, Chico (bad chico) were used over him in a lot of situations I thought were made for his skillset.
It's really sad. My point is I don't blame him for declaring.
Oregon would have used him much better in the offense they ran the last two years where there's a lot of blocking and a solid swing game for him.
So, fitting for Ahmed. -
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FO, Grellow, you got my hopes up for just a moment.IPukeOregonGrellow said:
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https://bowdowntowashington.com/
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Ugh. That place. Since @Dennis_DeYoung, @CokeGreaterThanPepsi, etc. have washed their hands of it, @HeretoBeatmyChest should just shut it down, and move the BDTW forums over to http://huskyfanpodcast.com/.IPukeOregonGrellow said:https://bowdowntowashington.com/
I’d go, but the comedy is a little too unintentional for my? tastes. -
He would have been 7 a pop if we actually used him correctly which is OZ/stretch. We ran him mostly on inside zones/duo/trap etc. which was retarded
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Imagine thinking we were worse because of a fucking RB and Myles is my favorite husky ever. #RunningBacksDontMatter
