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HH Favorite Rock Album Round 2 (1991- present) - #3 Black Album vs #6 Ten

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HH Favorite Rock Album Round 2 (1991- present) - #3 Black Album vs #6 Ten 30 votes

3) Metallica – The Black Album
46%
RaceBannonFire_Marshall_BillSwayeMad_SonAtomicDawgYouKnowItGladstonechuckBad_MotherDuckerIPukeOregonGrellowLaocoönBleachedAnusDawgLesGrossmanJoey 14 votes
6) Pearl Jam - Ten
53%
DerekJohnsonwhlinderRoadDawg55dncalumni94dfleaTequillabiak1pawzGrundleStiltzkinhuskyhooliganWilliams3YellowSnowEl_KNoWarningJustDawgFishpo31 16 votes
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    meh
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Vedder's vocal style gave rise to dog shit like Creed.

    True.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Vedder's vocal style gave rise to dog shit like Creed.

    I remember watching a decent doc series on the history of metal where they mocked that vocal style and called it the "yarl". Creed was one of the bands they mocked for copying it.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Vedder's vocal style gave rise to dog shit like Creed.

    True but not really Vedder's fault people bought into post grunge.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    How was this even close? Pearl Jam is fucking awful.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    How was this even close? Pearl Jam is fucking awful.

    Never been a big PJ fan but Ten is really good IMO.

    I love the old Mother Love Bone guys, just could do without Vedder.

    Damn shame Andy had to die or we wouldn't have to worry about PJ or Vedder.
    * Le’Andrew
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    How was this even close? Pearl Jam is fucking awful.

    Never been a big PJ fan but Ten is really good IMO.

    I love the old Mother Love Bone guys, just could do without Vedder.

    Damn shame Andy had to die or we wouldn't have to worry about PJ or Vedder.
    I don't hate Eddie and I like PJ's first 4 albums quite a bit. I just tend to judge folks who grew up in Seattle and think they are the GOAT. They are most certainly not.
    I feel like PJ is generally more beloved outside of Seattle than inside. Only Seattleite I know of who was obsessed with PJ was Steve Kelley, which FTG. Obviously I've been gone a long time. Is this really a thing?
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  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,624
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    How was this even close? Pearl Jam is fucking awful.

    Never been a big PJ fan but Ten is really good IMO.

    I love the old Mother Love Bone guys, just could do without Vedder.

    Damn shame Andy had to die or we wouldn't have to worry about PJ or Vedder.
    I don't hate Eddie and I like PJ's first 4 albums quite a bit. I just tend to judge folks who grew up in Seattle and think they are the GOAT. They are most certainly not.
    I feel like PJ is generally more beloved outside of Seattle than inside. Only Seattleite I know of who was obsessed with PJ was Steve Kelley, which FTG. Obviously I've been gone a long time. Is this really a thing?
    Not a fan boi, I came late to the grunge thing, and PJ was my entry to it. Like Yella, I really like the first 4 albums, drifted off after. Have had limited social interactions with a few of them, they came off (for me) as very humble and regular people. I think that the love for them can be summed up with: they didn't leave Seattle after they hit; nobody died (except the first four drummers); and, they still really bring it live.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    dnc said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dnc said:

    Swaye said:

    How was this even close? Pearl Jam is fucking awful.

    Never been a big PJ fan but Ten is really good IMO.

    I love the old Mother Love Bone guys, just could do without Vedder.

    Damn shame Andy had to die or we wouldn't have to worry about PJ or Vedder.
    I don't hate Eddie and I like PJ's first 4 albums quite a bit. I just tend to judge folks who grew up in Seattle and think they are the GOAT. They are most certainly not.
    I feel like PJ is generally more beloved outside of Seattle than inside. Only Seattleite I know of who was obsessed with PJ was Steve Kelley, which FTG. Obviously I've been gone a long time. Is this really a thing?
    Guess my experience was different. So many of my Seattle native peer group were YUGE Pearl Jam guysm.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    My friend played a pickup hoops game in the U District with Eddie Vedder, someone else from the band, and Matt Dillon when they were filming Singles. He said Dillon never said much but the other guys were cool as hell.

    I've always felt that way about PJ too from interviews etc and the fact that they're pals with Neil. They seem like good guys.. I hate most of their music though, mainly because of Vedder's vocals.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,165 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2020
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    First cd I ever bought was Pearl Jam. This was after hearing kids on the bus talking about them and Nirvana and I had no clue what was going on. It's an ok album, but I don't think it has aged well and I never bought another Pearl Jam album after that.

    An aside. I went to a tennis exhibition with Federer at Key Arena a few years back and the guitar player from Pearl Jam played the anthem. What a mediocre guitar player.

    Edit: Also remembered that I bought the Black Album on cassette and wore that shit out playing Enter Sandman and Sad But True.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    First cd I ever bought was Pearl Jam. This was after hearing kids on the bus talking about them and Nirvana and I had no clue what was going on. It's an ok album, but I don't think it has aged well and I never bought another Pearl Jam album after that.

    An aside. I went to a tennis exhibition with Federer at Key Arena a few years back and the guitar player from Pearl Jam played the anthem. What a mediocre guitar player.

    Edit: Also remembered that I bought the Black Album on cassette and wore that shit out playing Enter Sandman and Sad But True.

    I went to a home game last year where he played the national anthem. I think we lost.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    First cd I ever bought was Pearl Jam. This was after hearing kids on the bus talking about them and Nirvana and I had no clue what was going on. It's an ok album, but I don't think it has aged well and I never bought another Pearl Jam album after that.

    An aside. I went to a tennis exhibition with Federer at Key Arena a few years back and the guitar player from Pearl Jam played the anthem. What a mediocre guitar player.

    Pretty much. Like DJ, Ten holds a more nostalgic place than a repeater for me. Even at the tim, I only really dug a few songs from the album. Never liked 'Jeremy.' After Ten, PJ skipped ahead 20 years to make KZOK ready throwback rock.

    ATBS, Black Album sssssuuucccckkksss. I didn't leave Metallica, they left me. Compare Enter Sandman to For Whom the Bell Tolls or Sanitarium. It's beneath them.
    Metallica has always been about the green backs and that's what the Black Album is.

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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,165 Standard Supporter
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    First cd I ever bought was Pearl Jam. This was after hearing kids on the bus talking about them and Nirvana and I had no clue what was going on. It's an ok album, but I don't think it has aged well and I never bought another Pearl Jam album after that.

    An aside. I went to a tennis exhibition with Federer at Key Arena a few years back and the guitar player from Pearl Jam played the anthem. What a mediocre guitar player.

    Pretty much. Like DJ, Ten holds a more nostalgic place than a repeater for me. Even at the tim, I only really dug a few songs from the album. Never liked 'Jeremy.' After Ten, PJ skipped ahead 20 years to make KZOK ready throwback rock.

    ATBS, Black Album sssssuuucccckkksss. I didn't leave Metallica, they left me. Compare Enter Sandman to For Whom the Bell Tolls or Sanitarium. It's beneath them.
    Flip side to that is the Black Album was also a gateway album for young kids like me who were 4 years old when MoP came out to work backwards through the rest of their albums.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    First cd I ever bought was Pearl Jam. This was after hearing kids on the bus talking about them and Nirvana and I had no clue what was going on. It's an ok album, but I don't think it has aged well and I never bought another Pearl Jam album after that.

    An aside. I went to a tennis exhibition with Federer at Key Arena a few years back and the guitar player from Pearl Jam played the anthem. What a mediocre guitar player.

    Pretty much. Like DJ, Ten holds a more nostalgic place than a repeater for me. Even at the tim, I only really dug a few songs from the album. Never liked 'Jeremy.' After Ten, PJ skipped ahead 20 years to make KZOK ready throwback rock.

    ATBS, Black Album sssssuuucccckkksss. I didn't leave Metallica, they left me. Compare Enter Sandman to For Whom the Bell Tolls or Sanitarium. It's beneath them.
    Flip side to that is the Black Album was also a gateway album for young kids like me who were 4 years old when MoP came out to work backwards through the rest of their albums.
    Great point. I was old enough but missed early Metallica when it was new. The easy to digest, hard rock on the Black Album caught my ear and made me curious enough to try Master of Puppets and Justice and then go from there.
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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,922 Swaye's Wigwam
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    Did Metallica ever do a free concert at Magnuson Park? I didn't think so. Also Seattle >>>> San Francisco
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited October 2020
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    First cd I ever bought was Pearl Jam. This was after hearing kids on the bus talking about them and Nirvana and I had no clue what was going on. It's an ok album, but I don't think it has aged well and I never bought another Pearl Jam album after that.

    An aside. I went to a tennis exhibition with Federer at Key Arena a few years back and the guitar player from Pearl Jam played the anthem. What a mediocre guitar player.

    Pretty much. Like DJ, Ten holds a more nostalgic place than a repeater for me. Even at the tim, I only really dug a few songs from the album. Never liked 'Jeremy.' After Ten, PJ skipped ahead 20 years to make KZOK ready throwback rock.

    ATBS, Black Album sssssuuucccckkksss. I didn't leave Metallica, they left me. Compare Enter Sandman to For Whom the Bell Tolls or Sanitarium. It's beneath them.
    This is all true. I only upvoted this instead of chinning it so that maybe @Swaye won't scalp me and burn my wagon.

    My sister-in-law loved the Black Album - and that right there is enough to let me know it isn't actual Metallica music.
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  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    A lot of great songs on that album


    1. "Enter Sandman"
    2. "Sad but True"
    4. "The Unforgiven"
    5. "Wherever I May Roam"
    7. "Through the Never"
    8. "Nothing Else Matters"
    9. "Of Wolf and Man"
    10. "The God That Failed"
    11. "My Friend of Misery"
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    It's the 1984 of Metallica albums.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    Mad_Son said:

    A lot of great songs on that album


    1. "Enter Sandman"
    2. "Sad but True"
    4. "The Unforgiven"
    5. "Wherever I May Roam"
    7. "Through the Never"
    8. "Nothing Else Matters"
    9. "Of Wolf and Man"
    10. "The God That Failed"
    11. "My Friend of Misery"

    Holy shit.

    Thanks for reminding me.

    It’s worse than I remembered.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    Ten clinging to one point lead. Poles close tonight at 8.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    3) Metallica – The Black Album
    dflea said:

    It's the 1984 of Metallica albums.

    Except it isn't synth dominated and there are actual music people playing musical instruments. 1984 is basically the Beverly Hills Cop theme to my ear.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,216 Founders Club
    6) Pearl Jam - Ten
    Ten wins 15-14. Poles are closed.
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