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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Dardanus said:


    William Fleenor (@fleenorbill)
    1/10/14, 9:21 AM
    This guy RuleSevenDoog is an idiot


    For once Fleenor is right.
    You want to take the gloves off Damone? You want to get down in a pissing match? Let's do it. Let's roll.

    I'm getting completely fed up with your hate, negativity, and throwing people under the bus.

    Quite frankly Damone, I'm very, VERY happy that I don't know you. I'm quite happy that I don't lead what appears to be such a pathetic life that is faced with looking for the negativity in every situation. You need to go find something to smile at. Last I checked, it's summertime. The weather in Seattle seems to be pretty damn good right now - why don't you go check that out.

    You are pretty damn wrong about things. You may think that the amount of time that you keep spewing your views that that you've now heard it enough times that you are right. Doesn't make you right.

    You talk about 12-47 like that happened out of the blue sky. I've never seen you once suggest that the process of the downfall of this program began well before Emmert arrived.

    You want facts? You want truth? Here's your truth.

    Emmert came to the UW prior to the GLORIOUS 1-10 season under Gilby. The year before that (2003) Gilby managed to do enough to get us to 6-6, but that included the debacle at Cal where we gave up 700 yards (or thereabouts). It was an indifferent team that pretty much was at best mediocre. We lost 5 of our last 8, including the blowout to Cal, the blowout to UCLA, and a home loss to NEVADA. Yep, the program was heading in the right direction.

    The 2002 season under Slick was another sterling season example that is most remembered for the "Northwest Championship." That was great. But it hid the fact that going into the "Northwest Championship" we were a 4-5 football team that was pretty much a joke at 1-4 in the conference. In both 2002 and 2003, we finished the season with a 4-4 conference record.

    These weren't good football teams. The trend was heading downhill.

    Emmert comes on board and immediately gets sadled with the Gilby 1-10 debacle.

    Prior to Emmert coming on board, Babs jumps ship after a decade of mis-management, including allowing the stadium to begin the erosion process.

    Throughout 2003, we're faced with Slick leaving and the subsequent lawsuit(s), Dr. Feelgood, and a whole mess with the softball program and Teresa Wilson.

    Now keep in mind the following: ALL THIS HAPPENED BEFORE EMMERT WAS ANYWHERE NEAR BEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.

    Things were not in great shape. I think just about everybody knew that.

    A search committee is formed to replace Babs. The BOR, upper campus, and the big donor supporters of the school are sick of the egg showing up on their face. They are sick of the country club that Babs ran and the loose way she ran the department - particularly in light of what went on with Slick. They wanted someone prim, proper, and who they could count on would not sully the University name. ENTER TODD TURNER.

    Now, this pretty much gets you up to the point where Emmert was hired. Did he have to sign off on the hiring of Turner? Most likely. But whatever.

    At this point, Emmert isn't responsible for the on-field performance of the football program. There is a coach in place. It's not Emmert's job to oversee the football program or any other program in the athletic department. That job belongs to Todd Turner. It's Emmert's job to monitor the job performance of Todd Turner.

    So 1-10 happens. Gilby is canned by Turner (rightfully so). Yes, the program went 1-10. But the actions of those charged with overseeing the program were correct. Turner fired the coach for poor performance. If I'm in Emmert's shoes, I can't complain.

    Coaching search takes place and Turner has his heart set on Tyrone Willingham. It's Turner's hire. It's not Emmert's hire. Surely Emmert had to sign off on the hire. That's fine. You want to throw some blame on him for not having the foresight to negate the hire. That's fine. But the hire isn't Emmert's responsibility. It's Turner's responsibility. It's Emmert's responsibility to hold Turner accountable for the hire (which he did 3 years later when it was obvious that Tyrone wasn't the answer).

    So Tyrone goes 2-9 the first year after a 1-10 year. Not great. Warning signs start going off, particularly with some poor performance to close games. But it's the first year of the regime and really hard to get too critical.

    The next year the program goes 5-7 and has 2 significant events. The first significant event is the loss of the QB to injury. I think many could argue that without the loss of Isaiah that year, we go 6-6. The second event that was significant was the "suddenly senior" day and the unexplicable loss to Stanford with the most emotionless football team anybody had ever seen. Again, there's not enough there to fire Tyrone at that point. There are warning signs. There is ground to pretty much tell Tyrone that the following year is an action year where something needs to happen. He's on a short leash at this point in my opinion.

    The following year we lose games in ways that are unexplainable. Blow a huge loss to Arizona - a game we should have never lost. The most ridiculous ending to an Apple Cup I've ever seen where a guy was open by 20 yards coming out of a timeout. Blowing a pair of 21 point leads to Hawai'i. It was pretty obvious at this point that things weren't working. Coaching change was in order. Perhaps an AD change was also in order. The coaching change was blocked and complicated. The AD's head fell - and rightfully so due to some other issues that he had and such a terrible hire of a head coach.

    Prior to the decision to fire Tyrone after 2007, it's really hard to argue with ANYTHING that Emmert had done with respect to the football program.

    I will say that bringing Tyrone back for 2008 was a disasterous mistake. It should have never happened. You want to throw 0-12 on Emmert - I'm all for it. I think if you caught Emmert in a reflective, truthful moment, he would tell you in hindsight that he should have made the move and that it wasn't worth the carnage of 0-12.

    Throw Emmert under the bus for 2008. That's his responsibility. 2004-2007? Not so much. By all means, please, please tell me where he has responsibility for 2004 and 2007 other than the fact that he's the University President. Please tell me what specific actions that he did to undermine the program. You aren't going to find them - they aren't there.

    Your criticism of Emmert is ridiculous. Your criticism of Woodward is just downright comical.

    Where has Woodward screwed this program? He has only been responsible for this program in the summer of 2008 in a full-time role. Are you going to hold him to the fire for being the interim AD for the first half of 2008? How is he responsible for anything from 2004-2007 when he wasn't even involved with the Athletic Department? Talk about conspiracy theories. This may be one of the greatest conspiracy theories I've ever seen.

    I don't like losing. I don't like what I've seen the last 5 years. It's made me sick to my stomach many times over. But unlike you, I can at least take a step back and realize that the genesis of this problem began well before Mark Emmert became President of the University of Washington.

    If I spent my time being a "mindless Mike Damone minion," then I'd be convinced that the only logical explanation for our failures have been Mark Emmert and Scott Woodward.

    Quite frankly, that opinion is one of the most idiotic insanely stupid opinions that I've ever seen in my life.

    I don't defend the "wrong targets." There is blame to be thrown Emmert's way. I readily acknowledge that. But it isn't his full blame. Babs deserves blame. Gerberding deserves blame. McCormick deserves some blame. Slick deserves some blame. Gilby deserves some blame. Turner deserves some blame. Tyrone deserves some blame. Of the names I've listed, only 3 of those names have any timeline that extends into any portion of Emmert's tenure. That's less than half of those names.

    Quite frankly Damone, you are a world class donkey. When I hear people bitch and moan about the people in the State of Washington - you are a crystal example of why people bitch about the State of Washington. When I hear people that bitch about the fans of the University of Washington and what their complaints are, you represent what those complaints are.

    In my opinion, you are not good for the University of Washington. You aren't helping the program. You aren't helping the University. You are entirely self-serving and a pompous, egotistical jerk.

    You are barking up the wrong tree if you are going after me. I'm not naive enough to shove my head so far up my arse to ignore what I am seeing. I don't think that there is anybody that knows me that would say that I wouldn't call a spade a spade.

    All that paying for and attending games longer than I've been alive has done for you is given you a perceived ability to go be a bitter old man. Congrats on that.

    Thanks for showing those of us in a younger generation how not to act in 20-30 years when we are in your shoes.
    Easy man..I kid because I love
    It had to be done.






    siete
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I had good enough experiences with opposing fans at Miami and Ohio State, especially Ohio State in '93. At Autsen? I suggest never taking the women and children to Eugene where it seems to help if you have young men (sons and nephews) of imposing size as escorts. Duckfans will conduct themselves better in your presence if there's no women and children to frighten or gross-out and there's at least the possibility of retaliation if they should get physically threatening. Besides, duckfans are getting more and more arrogant with their team's ten-straight domination, which is also good reason for Dawgfans to ignore profane smack coming from ducks or stay home since at least in Eugene, we can have no pride if we're still dumb enough to go there.

  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I've been there five times and never had a problem with Duck fans.

    Maybe they aren't your problem...
    Shhhhh. Fuck with urban legends at your own risk.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Tailgater said:

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I had good enough experiences with opposing fans at Miami and Ohio State, especially Ohio State in '93. At Autsen? I suggest never taking the women and children to Eugene where it seems to help if you have young men (sons and nephews) of imposing size as escorts. Duckfans will conduct themselves better in your presence if there's no women and children to frighten or gross-out and there's at least the possibility of retaliation if they should get physically threatening. Besides, duckfans are getting more and more arrogant with their team's ten-straight domination, which is also good reason for Dawgfans to ignore profane smack coming from ducks or stay home since at least in Eugene, we can have no pride if we're still dumb enough to go there.

    Cool story bro
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,616 Standard Supporter

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I've been there five times and never had a problem with Duck fans.

    Maybe they aren't your problem...
    Sure, but you probably weren't wearing purple.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I've been there five times and never had a problem with Duck fans.

    Maybe they aren't your problem...
    Sure, but you probably weren't wearing purple.
    BHAM!!

  • Twitter closed the fucking gates on PLSS.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Twitter closed the fucking gates on PLSS.

    That's wrong. PL_SS closed the gate on Twitter
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I've been there five times and never had a problem with Duck fans.

    Maybe they aren't your problem...
    Sure, but you probably weren't wearing purple.
    Actually I was.
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389

    Tailgater said:

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I had good enough experiences with opposing fans at Miami and Ohio State, especially Ohio State in '93. At Autsen? I suggest never taking the women and children to Eugene where it seems to help if you have young men (sons and nephews) of imposing size as escorts. Duckfans will conduct themselves better in your presence if there's no women and children to frighten or gross-out and there's at least the possibility of retaliation if they should get physically threatening. Besides, duckfans are getting more and more arrogant with their team's ten-straight domination, which is also good reason for Dawgfans to ignore profane smack coming from ducks or stay home since at least in Eugene, we can have no pride if we're still dumb enough to go there.

    Cool story bro
    You were good til the "bro" thing, which I understand is Eugene trailer-trash smack for duckboner.

  • Twitter closed the fucking gates on PLSS.

    That's wrong. PL_SS closed the gate on Twitter
    80% are fucking geeks.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I've been there five times and never had a problem with Duck fans.

    Maybe they aren't your problem...
    Sure, but you probably weren't wearing purple.
    Actually I was.
    Go Vikings!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Tailgater said:

    Tailgater said:

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I had good enough experiences with opposing fans at Miami and Ohio State, especially Ohio State in '93. At Autsen? I suggest never taking the women and children to Eugene where it seems to help if you have young men (sons and nephews) of imposing size as escorts. Duckfans will conduct themselves better in your presence if there's no women and children to frighten or gross-out and there's at least the possibility of retaliation if they should get physically threatening. Besides, duckfans are getting more and more arrogant with their team's ten-straight domination, which is also good reason for Dawgfans to ignore profane smack coming from ducks or stay home since at least in Eugene, we can have no pride if we're still dumb enough to go there.

    Cool story bro
    You were good til the "bro" thing, which I understand is Eugene trailer-trash smack for duckboner.

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    Origin
    The phrase “cool story”[2] used as a sarcastic response to a narrative was first seen in the 2001 film Zoolander[5], where actor Owen Wilson’s character Hansel tells a long winded story about a drug-induced hallucination. In response, a background character named Olaf yells out from across the room, “Cool story, Hansel” while laughing.



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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Time to close the fucking gates Derek.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,616 Standard Supporter
    Tailgater said:

    Tailgater said:

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I had good enough experiences with opposing fans at Miami and Ohio State, especially Ohio State in '93. At Autsen? I suggest never taking the women and children to Eugene where it seems to help if you have young men (sons and nephews) of imposing size as escorts. Duckfans will conduct themselves better in your presence if there's no women and children to frighten or gross-out and there's at least the possibility of retaliation if they should get physically threatening. Besides, duckfans are getting more and more arrogant with their team's ten-straight domination, which is also good reason for Dawgfans to ignore profane smack coming from ducks or stay home since at least in Eugene, we can have no pride if we're still dumb enough to go there.

    Cool story bro
    You were good til the "bro" thing, which I understand is Eugene trailer-trash smack for duckboner.

    nope
  • SandyHooker
    SandyHooker Member Posts: 343

    Passion said:

    Have you ever been to a game in autzen stadium as an opposing fan? I root against these teams because they are my 3 worse opposing fan experiences: 3) miami; 2) ohio state; 1) eugene trash.

    I've been there five times and never had a problem with Duck fans.

    Maybe they aren't your problem...
    Sure, but you probably weren't wearing purple.
    Actually I was.
    these don't count

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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    This. Thread. Win. Full. Of.
  • Dardanus
    Dardanus Member Posts: 2,623
    About time the Minister of Information started doing his job.