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  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    Rich people avoid taxes. They pay a lot of money to do that.

    Trump does it, Biden does it, they all do it. System should be fixed, but one isn't worse than the other. News at 11

    Biden shielding $12 million in income from the payroll tax via S-Corp and now running ads saying the Trump payroll tax suspension will kill Social Security is about as hypocritical as a politician gets. Trump needs to bring this up in a debate.
    I agree. Both candidates should hit each other on this hypocrisy. The only solution to this is to simplify the tax code. The problem with this, is that simplifying the tax code takes away a lot of private and federal jobs for people that have expertise in this complicated system. They've basically created a small economy on this issue.
    The difference is that Trump isn’t the candidate that wants to raise taxes. What both of them did is legal, but Biden’s is hypocritical.

    https://youtu.be/KgUNdJAyxt0
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,568 Standard Supporter
    Best economy ever by any president. Why would anyone want more of that!

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/trump-economy-mainstream-media-andy-puzder
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Houhusky said:

    The people foaming at the mouth over a

    Rich people avoid taxes. They pay a lot of money to do that.

    Trump does it, Biden does it, they all do it. System should be fixed, but one isn't worse than the other. News at 11

    Biden shielding $12 million in income from the payroll tax via S-Corp and now running ads saying the Trump payroll tax suspension will kill Social Security is about as hypocritical as a politician gets. Trump needs to bring this up in a debate.
    I agree. Both candidates should hit each other on this hypocrisy. The only solution to this is to simplify the tax code. The problem with this, is that simplifying the tax code takes away a lot of private and federal jobs for people that have expertise in this complicated system. They've basically created a small economy on this issue.
    The Tax code, legal system, and regulatory branch are all overly complex and complicated by design.

    Its a feature.
    1. Allows for the selective application of the law based on insider favoritism
    2. Allows for the already rich and powerful class to weasel out or distort the tax/law/regulation for their benefit but crushes the little guy that doesnt have the same resources to throw at the problem
    3. Dramatically increases political leverage as they are the gatekeepers of loopholes in a system so complex new loopholes can be created or destroyed without a normal person even knowing it.
    A reminder that Biden spent over 40 years as a senator and a VP and did literally nothing to close tax loopholes.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566

    Houhusky said:

    The people foaming at the mouth over a

    Rich people avoid taxes. They pay a lot of money to do that.

    Trump does it, Biden does it, they all do it. System should be fixed, but one isn't worse than the other. News at 11

    Biden shielding $12 million in income from the payroll tax via S-Corp and now running ads saying the Trump payroll tax suspension will kill Social Security is about as hypocritical as a politician gets. Trump needs to bring this up in a debate.
    I agree. Both candidates should hit each other on this hypocrisy. The only solution to this is to simplify the tax code. The problem with this, is that simplifying the tax code takes away a lot of private and federal jobs for people that have expertise in this complicated system. They've basically created a small economy on this issue.
    The Tax code, legal system, and regulatory branch are all overly complex and complicated by design.

    Its a feature.
    1. Allows for the selective application of the law based on insider favoritism
    2. Allows for the already rich and powerful class to weasel out or distort the tax/law/regulation for their benefit but crushes the little guy that doesnt have the same resources to throw at the problem
    3. Dramatically increases political leverage as they are the gatekeepers of loopholes in a system so complex new loopholes can be created or destroyed without a normal person even knowing it.
    A reminder that Biden spent over 40 years as a senator and a VP and did literally nothing to close tax loopholes.

    This was one of the great things Reagan did. He actually did greatly simplify the tax code. But over time, it has gotten more and more complex. Eventually, we will need another Reagan to fix this shit, and these clowns aren't it.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,896 Standard Supporter
    What I said. Plus, if you "sell" your building you can do a delayed tax-free exchange and sell it tax-free.

    @JamesGRickards
    I have a graduate law degree in taxation, was tax counsel to world's largest bank. So, maybe I know more about taxes than the NYTimes. In real estate, gains are deferred until you sell the building. Expenses are current, (depreciation, interest, fees). So, tax losses are normal.

    https://tinyurl.com/y5eyhqho
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Anyone else read far enough to see that the NYT also got access to Trump Org’s individual employee compensation in this non-story? How did that happen?
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,486 Standard Supporter
    I’m still trying to figure out how the NYT was able to legally get its hands on the returns....
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    thechatch said:

    I’m still trying to figure out how the NYT was able to legally get its hands on the returns....

    I don’t think they actually saw the returns, just a summary.