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    dannarcdannarc Member Posts: 2,265
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    Ethan Garbers (Corona Del Mar)

    Gladstone said:

    BTW, sorry about the tirade, Gladdy - nothing against you. I still love you.

    I actually just hate the team and the school any more.






    Just kidding bud. You're good. At least you saw the glory years and got out when the going was good. I'm profoundly warped which is why I cling to dooging and this stupid program like a relentless parasite. Except I'm the host. And the punchline.
    For the record, I dooged for 28 seasons before burning out last year. Yes, it was nice to be on campus in the early 90's. But, to be honest, it also made me expect that level of success in the future.

    I don't blame you for being Doogstone. Someone has to keep the fandom going when the bitter, jaded assholes like me flame out and walk away.


    To be standing in Picardo Farms Pea Patch on a crisp October day
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,616
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    I think Lake shocks the world, throws away the playbook next week, and starts a QB we haven't thought of.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,483
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    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    There is no right play this year. They're going with Sirmon because of his years in the program, but the constant bad decisions and terrible inaccuracy on a lot of throws can't have changed much from last year.

    Thomson isn't here to start, Morris would have a chance if Pete still coached here which thank Christ he doesn't, and they aren't throwing a year away on a true freshman.

    You're FASCINATED by all this? Bored of tweeting about garbage ass mountain west fucking TCU?
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Jacob Sirmon (Bothell)
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    There is no right play this year. They're going with Sirmon because of his years in the program, but the constant bad decisions and terrible inaccuracy on a lot of throws can't have changed much from last year.

    Thomson isn't here to start, Morris would have a chance if Pete still coached here which thank Christ he doesn't, and they aren't throwing a year away on a true freshman.

    You're FASCINATED by all this? Bored of tweeting about garbage ass mountain west fucking TCU?
    Sirmon's thrown 3 passes in a game and nobody has really seen anything about him in over 12 months minimum and really more like 18 months. To say that a QB isn't going to grow a bit in that time period is probably missing the mark.

    The thing about Sirmon is that UW doesn't need him to be great. They need him to make the throws that are there. They are going to be a 60/40 run to pass team at minimum in my mind. But there's going to be a lot of play action and the ability for Sirmon to push the ball down the field and I'm confident that he's got the best arm on the roster.

    If he is showing a lot of bad decisions and inaccuracy that leads to turnovers, then he clearly won't start and losing him as a transfer isn't that big of a deal obviously.

    My guess though is that Sirmon's marginally the better option and as you mentioned his "experience" is going to win the day for him. Morris would have a shot but in my view really only if Sirmon's turnover propensity is large. Garbers would have to lap the field in my mind to earn the job.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    You play the guy who gives you the best chance to win. If that's Sirmon, great. If it's not you don't play him because you're worried about losing him that's asinine.
    Obviously if he's clearly not the best guy you don't start him ... that was never my point.

    I don't see a QB on the roster that is heads and shoulders above Sirmon at this point ... which all things being equal that makes Sirmon the "safe" option to start.

    The most talented QB on this roster is Garbers but I don't envision a scenario where he's starting this year.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    There is no right play this year. They're going with Sirmon because of his years in the program, but the constant bad decisions and terrible inaccuracy on a lot of throws can't have changed much from last year.

    Thomson isn't here to start, Morris would have a chance if Pete still coached here which thank Christ he doesn't, and they aren't throwing a year away on a true freshman.

    You're FASCINATED by all this? Bored of tweeting about garbage ass mountain west fucking TCU?
    Sirmon's thrown 3 passes in a game and nobody has really seen anything about him in over 12 months minimum and really more like 18 months. To say that a QB isn't going to grow a bit in that time period is probably missing the mark.

    The thing about Sirmon is that UW doesn't need him to be great. They need him to make the throws that are there. They are going to be a 60/40 run to pass team at minimum in my mind. But there's going to be a lot of play action and the ability for Sirmon to push the ball down the field and I'm confident that he's got the best arm on the roster.

    If he is showing a lot of bad decisions and inaccuracy that leads to turnovers, then he clearly won't start and losing him as a transfer isn't that big of a deal obviously.

    My guess though is that Sirmon's marginally the better option and as you mentioned his "experience" is going to win the day for him. Morris would have a shot but in my view really only if Sirmon's turnover propensity is large. Garbers would have to lap the field in my mind to earn the job.
    I’ll be shocked if they are 60-40 run-pass. If so that means we don’t have a QB.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    There is no right play this year. They're going with Sirmon because of his years in the program, but the constant bad decisions and terrible inaccuracy on a lot of throws can't have changed much from last year.

    Thomson isn't here to start, Morris would have a chance if Pete still coached here which thank Christ he doesn't, and they aren't throwing a year away on a true freshman.

    You're FASCINATED by all this? Bored of tweeting about garbage ass mountain west fucking TCU?
    Sirmon's thrown 3 passes in a game and nobody has really seen anything about him in over 12 months minimum and really more like 18 months. To say that a QB isn't going to grow a bit in that time period is probably missing the mark.

    The thing about Sirmon is that UW doesn't need him to be great. They need him to make the throws that are there. They are going to be a 60/40 run to pass team at minimum in my mind. But there's going to be a lot of play action and the ability for Sirmon to push the ball down the field and I'm confident that he's got the best arm on the roster.

    If he is showing a lot of bad decisions and inaccuracy that leads to turnovers, then he clearly won't start and losing him as a transfer isn't that big of a deal obviously.

    My guess though is that Sirmon's marginally the better option and as you mentioned his "experience" is going to win the day for him. Morris would have a shot but in my view really only if Sirmon's turnover propensity is large. Garbers would have to lap the field in my mind to earn the job.
    I’ll be shocked if they are 60-40 run-pass. If so that means we don’t have a QB.
    We’ve been 60/40 effectively over the last handful of years I believe
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    1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,307
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    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    There is no right play this year. They're going with Sirmon because of his years in the program, but the constant bad decisions and terrible inaccuracy on a lot of throws can't have changed much from last year.

    Thomson isn't here to start, Morris would have a chance if Pete still coached here which thank Christ he doesn't, and they aren't throwing a year away on a true freshman.

    You're FASCINATED by all this? Bored of tweeting about garbage ass mountain west fucking TCU?
    Sirmon's thrown 3 passes in a game and nobody has really seen anything about him in over 12 months minimum and really more like 18 months. To say that a QB isn't going to grow a bit in that time period is probably missing the mark.

    The thing about Sirmon is that UW doesn't need him to be great. They need him to make the throws that are there. They are going to be a 60/40 run to pass team at minimum in my mind. But there's going to be a lot of play action and the ability for Sirmon to push the ball down the field and I'm confident that he's got the best arm on the roster.

    If he is showing a lot of bad decisions and inaccuracy that leads to turnovers, then he clearly won't start and losing him as a transfer isn't that big of a deal obviously.

    My guess though is that Sirmon's marginally the better option and as you mentioned his "experience" is going to win the day for him. Morris would have a shot but in my view really only if Sirmon's turnover propensity is large. Garbers would have to lap the field in my mind to earn the job.
    I’ll be shocked if they are 60-40 run-pass. If so that means we don’t have a QB.
    We’ve been 60/40 effectively over the last handful of years I believe
    Not gonna look past last year, but in 2019 it was 52:48 run:pass. Count the 29 sacks as passing plays, and it's 49:51 run:pass.

    And how does one JUST watch the shit show that was the 2019 offense and STILL clamor for the guy with "arm talent"? Fuck arm talent, give me the guy who can play. Fuck, give me Browning back at this point. Also, it's interesting how strong the opinions are about a group of quarterbacks that nobody's actually seen play. I mean, based off the feeling I pulled out of the depths of my ass ravine, Dylan Morris will never step on a football field in Husky tan and purple.
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    WoofWoof Member Posts: 769
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    Jacob Sirmon (Bothell)

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Game 1 starter should be Sirmon ... it's the "politically correct" thing to do and here's why:

    If Sirmon doesn't win the job then you can almost guarantee that he's gone ... he's already given you plenty of warning on that.

    Thompson has obvious game experience but unless he wows he's the guy that you have as a package and/or backup QB.

    Morris I don't think is a lost cause but I also don't expect him to ever take a meaningful snap at UW. It'd be TERRIBLE optics for him to start unless he's decidedly better. Starting Sirmon over him makes sense and is hard for Morris to not look at that move as working to gear up for the eventual battle between Morris/Garbers/Huard.

    Garbers IMO is probably the most talented of the current QBs on the roster but I can't imagine that COVID has helped him in being able to play this year and he's almost assuredly heading for a redshirt season. I'm FASCINATED in seeing how Lake carves out a meaningful role for both Garbers and Huard because the giant risk with Huard is that he clears out Morris/Garbers on the roster and our depth goes to dogshit.

    Sirmon's the right play because not only do I think he has the most arm talent of the existing group, but I also think he buys the staff time to get Huard in next year and allow everything to play itself out in additional competition over the next 10 months before Game 1 of 2021. Worst thing that this staff can do right now is go about looking at the QB position that thins it out. I'm not saying that this season doesn't matter (it does, don't twist), but roster management is going to be critical given the recruiting challenges that we've had for the 2021 class and implications moving on to 2022.

    There is no right play this year. They're going with Sirmon because of his years in the program, but the constant bad decisions and terrible inaccuracy on a lot of throws can't have changed much from last year.

    Thomson isn't here to start, Morris would have a chance if Pete still coached here which thank Christ he doesn't, and they aren't throwing a year away on a true freshman.

    You're FASCINATED by all this? Bored of tweeting about garbage ass mountain west fucking TCU?
    Sirmon's thrown 3 passes in a game and nobody has really seen anything about him in over 12 months minimum and really more like 18 months. To say that a QB isn't going to grow a bit in that time period is probably missing the mark.

    The thing about Sirmon is that UW doesn't need him to be great. They need him to make the throws that are there. They are going to be a 60/40 run to pass team at minimum in my mind. But there's going to be a lot of play action and the ability for Sirmon to push the ball down the field and I'm confident that he's got the best arm on the roster.

    If he is showing a lot of bad decisions and inaccuracy that leads to turnovers, then he clearly won't start and losing him as a transfer isn't that big of a deal obviously.

    My guess though is that Sirmon's marginally the better option and as you mentioned his "experience" is going to win the day for him. Morris would have a shot but in my view really only if Sirmon's turnover propensity is large. Garbers would have to lap the field in my mind to earn the job.
    I’ll be shocked if they are 60-40 run-pass. If so that means we don’t have a QB.
    We’ve been 60/40 effectively over the last handful of years I believe
    Not gonna look past last year, but in 2019 it was 52:48 run:pass. Count the 29 sacks as passing plays, and it's 49:51 run:pass.

    And how does one JUST watch the shit show that was the 2019 offense and STILL clamor for the guy with "arm talent"? Fuck arm talent, give me the guy who can play. Fuck, give me Browning back at this point. Also, it's interesting how strong the opinions are about a group of quarterbacks that nobody's actually seen play. I mean, based off the feeling I pulled out of the depths of my ass ravine, Dylan Morris will never step on a football field in Husky tan and purple.
    That is quite the statement. I think the likeliest to start is Sirmon. He's the frontrunner given his experience in the program. If the season had been in the spring I think Garbers would have overtaken him. I think Thompson is the insurance blanket that you can throw in there and get C+ performance from. He will get playing time.

    People also overestimate the coaches ability to pick a good quarterback. There have been countless times where coaches pick a starter and it's readily apparent after a game or two that they had no clue what they were doing. Sam Darnold got beat out by Max Browne. Justin Fields got beat out by Jake Fromm. Joe Burrow got beaten out by a bunch of guys. This may be a pick about who takes the first snaps, but the long-term starter is a completely different question, and we're not going to know for at least a couple games.
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