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jecornel
jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
Unneeded global panic. Amazing the New York Times is reporting this.

Let’s make sure we get as many positive tests as we can so we can fear Monger the public into submission. Even when the positive test is bullshit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    It's kinda a big deal. A large number of people may have had their civil rights violated in the name of (flawed) science. Science has been treated more like shariah law during the pandemtifada, a divine proclamation to which no higher authority can be appealed.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    One of those is not like the other
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    It's kinda a big deal. A large number of people may have had their civil rights violated in the name of (flawed) science. Science has been treated more like shariah law during the pandemtifada, a divine proclamation to which no higher authority can be appealed.

    This is an excellent and profound poont. This "science" based approach to governance reminds me of something else as well.


    Science, which is a process or method not a singular thing, has no morality or values. That is a good thing, so long as it is acknowledged. Science is an input, a crucial one, to governance and policy but ought not be the totality of it. One can rationalize some pretty godawful things in the name of science alone.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,111 Founders Club
    If we simply took Darwin to its conclusion a couple hundred thousand old and sick dead is really no big deal. Quite common really
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    If we simply took Darwin to its conclusion a couple hundred thousand old and sick dead is really no big deal. Quite common really

    Exactly.

    In more concrete terms that #mylefties might sympathize with more, look at the interface of science and law in criminal defense.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,124 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    It's kinda a big deal. A large number of people may have had their civil rights violated in the name of (flawed) science. Science has been treated more like shariah law during the pandemtifada, a divine proclamation to which no higher authority can be appealed.

    This is an excellent and profound poont. This "science" based approach to governance reminds me of something else as well.


    Fuck your new sign pic. Every one of your posts I have to stop and watch her go through the cycle a couple times.

    Kudos.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Hospitalizations? falling off a cliff

    ICU admissions? same

    Death? Same

    False positives? everywhere
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    doogie said:

    Hospitalizations? falling off a cliff

    ICU admissions? same

    Death? Same

    False positives? everywhere

    It's not false positives, per se. It's more false current infection & contagious. Because of the sensitivity, some of the PCR tests are more like antibody tests, detecting a Vid that's already come and gone.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    If we ever get the straight story it will likely turn out that millions upon millions got the WuhanSARS.

    Early on the media jumped on all the deaths, quietly omitting all kinds of data in regards to the age of those dying, areas that were hit the hardest AKA nursing homes. Highlighting and pushing outlier cases and emphasizing long haulers. Mass shutdowns and we never saw over full hospitals.

    People will say, look deaths are up in 2020 versus prior years. Saying strictly due to COVID deaths. What about people that were denied surgery and ended up dying? What about increased suicide? I believe car fatalities are up this year.
    Also, look at the counting of deaths. A motorcycle death was counted as COVID meaning there are hosts of other recorded deaths not linked to COVID whatsoever but still getting a COVID designation.

    Walking out the door of the home carries inherent risk. Getting COVID on a plane supposedly carries the same risk of getting in a car accident.

    IF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING WuhanSARS?????? DO THE FOLLOWING

    Wear an N95 or KN95 mask
    Sanitize if you are worried about touching WuhanSARS
    Limit contact with people that aren't taking precautions
    Avoid crowded indoor spaces with poor ventilation that will require you to be there for hours at a time
    If you carry multiple underlying conditions, have the store or Amazon deliver your shit. Or ask a family member to bring it to your door.
    Start a daily regimen of Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc.

    To shut down the entire country for this needs to end now. Look at Alabama? All those college kids got it, where are the bodies?
    Let people make a choice and protect themselves as they see fit!

    WE DO NOTHING ABOUT cigarettes, processed meat filled with nitrates, sugar just destroys the body, factory farming full of chemicals that people ingest and the list could go on for days. It has turned into total madness. Family members ruing lifelong friendships over COVID, divorce, child abuse, people going hungry. Total disaster.



    Go, Jimmy, go.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2020
    Related


    The Andrews Labor government is facing a multibillion-dollar COVID-19 bill from businesses shut down during the stage four lockdown for failures in hotel quarantine, in a landmark class action that names Health Minister Jenny Mikakos, Jobs Minister Martin Pakula and their department secretaries.

    The man who successfully sued the Queensland government for as much as $1 billion following the 2011 floods is launching one of the country's largest claims, expected to be worth billions of dollars and potentially crippling to Victoria, after Premier Daniel Andrews went it alone this year to pass laws that support the class action industry.

    Mr Andrews' latest woes comes as federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg labelled the Premier's handling of the pandemic as a "slow car crash" and a "massive drag on the national economy", as the state recorded 114 new cases and 11 deaths.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,111 Founders Club

    jecornel said:

    If we ever get the straight story it will likely turn out that millions upon millions got the WuhanSARS.

    Early on the media jumped on all the deaths, quietly omitting all kinds of data in regards to the age of those dying, areas that were hit the hardest AKA nursing homes. Highlighting and pushing outlier cases and emphasizing long haulers. Mass shutdowns and we never saw over full hospitals.

    People will say, look deaths are up in 2020 versus prior years. Saying strictly due to COVID deaths. What about people that were denied surgery and ended up dying? What about increased suicide? I believe car fatalities are up this year.
    Also, look at the counting of deaths. A motorcycle death was counted as COVID meaning there are hosts of other recorded deaths not linked to COVID whatsoever but still getting a COVID designation.

    Walking out the door of the home carries inherent risk. Getting COVID on a plane supposedly carries the same risk of getting in a car accident.

    IF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING WuhanSARS?????? DO THE FOLLOWING

    Wear an N95 or KN95 mask
    Sanitize if you are worried about touching WuhanSARS
    Limit contact with people that aren't taking precautions
    Avoid crowded indoor spaces with poor ventilation that will require you to be there for hours at a time
    If you carry multiple underlying conditions, have the store or Amazon deliver your shit. Or ask a family member to bring it to your door.
    Start a daily regimen of Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc.

    To shut down the entire country for this needs to end now. Look at Alabama? All those college kids got it, where are the bodies?
    Let people make a choice and protect themselves as they see fit!

    WE DO NOTHING ABOUT cigarettes, processed meat filled with nitrates, sugar just destroys the body, factory farming full of chemicals that people ingest and the list could go on for days. It has turned into total madness. Family members ruing lifelong friendships over COVID, divorce, child abuse, people going hungry. Total disaster.



    Go, Jimmy, go.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,973
    jecornel said:

    Unneeded global panic. Amazing the New York Times is reporting this.

    Let’s make sure we get as many positive tests as we can so we can fear Monger the public into submission. Even when the positive test is bullshit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,111 Founders Club
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    jecornel said:

    If we ever get the straight story it will likely turn out that millions upon millions got the WuhanSARS.

    Early on the media jumped on all the deaths, quietly omitting all kinds of data in regards to the age of those dying, areas that were hit the hardest AKA nursing homes. Highlighting and pushing outlier cases and emphasizing long haulers. Mass shutdowns and we never saw over full hospitals.

    People will say, look deaths are up in 2020 versus prior years. Saying strictly due to COVID deaths. What about people that were denied surgery and ended up dying? What about increased suicide? I believe car fatalities are up this year.
    Also, look at the counting of deaths. A motorcycle death was counted as COVID meaning there are hosts of other recorded deaths not linked to COVID whatsoever but still getting a COVID designation.

    Walking out the door of the home carries inherent risk. Getting COVID on a plane supposedly carries the same risk of getting in a car accident.

    IF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING WuhanSARS?????? DO THE FOLLOWING

    Wear an N95 or KN95 mask
    Sanitize if you are worried about touching WuhanSARS
    Limit contact with people that aren't taking precautions
    Avoid crowded indoor spaces with poor ventilation that will require you to be there for hours at a time
    If you carry multiple underlying conditions, have the store or Amazon deliver your shit. Or ask a family member to bring it to your door.
    Start a daily regimen of Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc.

    To shut down the entire country for this needs to end now. Look at Alabama? All those college kids got it, where are the bodies?
    Let people make a choice and protect themselves as they see fit!

    WE DO NOTHING ABOUT cigarettes, processed meat filled with nitrates, sugar just destroys the body, factory farming full of chemicals that people ingest and the list could go on for days. It has turned into total madness. Family members ruing lifelong friendships over COVID, divorce, child abuse, people going hungry. Total disaster.



    Go, Jimmy, go.

    Is this really our* little Jimmy?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,111 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    jecornel said:

    If we ever get the straight story it will likely turn out that millions upon millions got the WuhanSARS.

    Early on the media jumped on all the deaths, quietly omitting all kinds of data in regards to the age of those dying, areas that were hit the hardest AKA nursing homes. Highlighting and pushing outlier cases and emphasizing long haulers. Mass shutdowns and we never saw over full hospitals.

    People will say, look deaths are up in 2020 versus prior years. Saying strictly due to COVID deaths. What about people that were denied surgery and ended up dying? What about increased suicide? I believe car fatalities are up this year.
    Also, look at the counting of deaths. A motorcycle death was counted as COVID meaning there are hosts of other recorded deaths not linked to COVID whatsoever but still getting a COVID designation.

    Walking out the door of the home carries inherent risk. Getting COVID on a plane supposedly carries the same risk of getting in a car accident.

    IF ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING WuhanSARS?????? DO THE FOLLOWING

    Wear an N95 or KN95 mask
    Sanitize if you are worried about touching WuhanSARS
    Limit contact with people that aren't taking precautions
    Avoid crowded indoor spaces with poor ventilation that will require you to be there for hours at a time
    If you carry multiple underlying conditions, have the store or Amazon deliver your shit. Or ask a family member to bring it to your door.
    Start a daily regimen of Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc.

    To shut down the entire country for this needs to end now. Look at Alabama? All those college kids got it, where are the bodies?
    Let people make a choice and protect themselves as they see fit!

    WE DO NOTHING ABOUT cigarettes, processed meat filled with nitrates, sugar just destroys the body, factory farming full of chemicals that people ingest and the list could go on for days. It has turned into total madness. Family members ruing lifelong friendships over COVID, divorce, child abuse, people going hungry. Total disaster.



    Go, Jimmy, go.

    Is this really our* little Jimmy?
    No it is not. I don't want to dox Jimmy but that is a 60's Husky
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    You are a good man Race.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,111 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    You are a good man Race.

    Let's not let that get around
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    HHusky said:

    jecornel said:

    Unneeded global panic. Amazing the New York Times is reporting this.

    Let’s make sure we get as many positive tests as we can so we can fear Monger the public into submission. Even when the positive test is bullshit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html


    @HHusky if you are concerned about WuhanSARS, take safety measures in public, and boost your immune system. Encourage others to do the same. Lockdown is not the answer. You must not care about the societal damage that is taking place. Let people earn a living. If you have multiple underlying conditions and have the luxury of working from home then do so.

    Are you a shut-in during flu season?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:

    HHusky said:

    jecornel said:

    Unneeded global panic. Amazing the New York Times is reporting this.

    Let’s make sure we get as many positive tests as we can so we can fear Monger the public into submission. Even when the positive test is bullshit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html


    @HHusky if you are concerned about WuhanSARS, take safety measures in public, and boost your immune system. Encourage others to do the same. Lockdown is not the answer. You must not care about the societal damage that is taking place. Let people earn a living. If you have multiple underlying conditions and have the luxury of working from home then do so.

    Are you a shut-in during flu season?
    He's not cowed by the scare tactics. He's been flying all over the country. After all, #StayHomeStaySafe is merely a guideline. Only the subservient need obey it.

    We're pretty sure he's got a toetag startup company, so things are good for him.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    jecornel said:

    HHusky said:

    jecornel said:

    Unneeded global panic. Amazing the New York Times is reporting this.

    Let’s make sure we get as many positive tests as we can so we can fear Monger the public into submission. Even when the positive test is bullshit.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html


    @HHusky if you are concerned about WuhanSARS, take safety measures in public, and boost your immune system. Encourage others to do the same. Lockdown is not the answer. You must not care about the societal damage that is taking place. Let people earn a living. If you have multiple underlying conditions and have the luxury of working from home then do so.

    Are you a shut-in during flu season?
    and remember to take Zinc and D3! HQC too, if you got em