Great ANALyses of the Kenosha Fiasco
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The video is clear. You are ignorant if you think there isn't a significant portion of people arguing in bad faith so they can use it as a political weapon. The DA and the charges are clearly political. The blog you posted started with a massive factually inaccurate statement.LebamDawg said:
it is just wait and see what happens, if he gets charged with something and the law doesn't support that charge I trust it will be resolved. If its a jury anything can happen to hell with the law and it gets appealed.Houhusky said:
The video(s) pretty clearly speak for themselves on self defense.LebamDawg said:well the other issues that come into play are the fact that he shot two people.
That is what needs to be addressed. Was is justifiable? nothing more or less.
We are trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.
Not a big deal if he had legal possession or not.
Im just pointing out that the widely repeated "state lines" and "minor in possession" stuff is factually wrong.
People are retarded, and, If you can convince someone that a suspect violated a lessor charge its a lot easier to get them on the greater charge.
Catch a husband lying on a tax form and its suddenly a lot easier to convict him of murdering his wife.
If the video speaks clearly no one would ever argue. People see different things in video, just like people hear different things.
The second guy to me was obvious, but the first guy who got shot is not as clear.
The guy who wrote the article sees things some viewers will agree with and some won't -
Nothing is clear.
Its not an attack on you unless you are the idiot that wrote the blog...
The rest of your post reads like some "my truth" facebook enlightened-centrism BS. -
The first guy who gets shot is chasing the kid. He then tosses something at the kid. The kid is retreating the entire time prior to him shooting the 1st guy. That is all entirely clear by anyone who honestly looks at the video. The kid isn't chasing anyone.LebamDawg said:
it is just wait and see what happens, if he gets charged with something and the law doesn't support that charge I trust it will be resolved. If its a jury anything can happen to hell with the law and it gets appealed.Houhusky said:
The video(s) pretty clearly speak for themselves on self defense.LebamDawg said:well the other issues that come into play are the fact that he shot two people.
That is what needs to be addressed. Was is justifiable? nothing more or less.
We are trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.
Not a big deal if he had legal possession or not.
Im just pointing out that the widely repeated "state lines" and "minor in possession" stuff is factually wrong.
People are retarded, and, If you can convince someone that a suspect violated a lessor charge its a lot easier to get them on the greater charge.
Catch a husband lying on a tax form and its suddenly a lot easier to convict him of murdering his wife.
If the video speaks clearly no one would ever argue. People see different things in video, just like people hear different things.
The second guy to me was obvious, but the first guy who got shot is not as clear.
The guy who wrote the article sees things some viewers will agree with and some won't -
Nothing is clear. -
I don't have a truth in any of this. The situations that are occurring across our cities is out of control.
Yes there are people on both sides that will see all these crappy videos differently.
For political, ideological, ass holeyness reasons from both sides.
Everyone on both sides made stupid fucking decision where 2 people ended up dead. Is the kid innocent? I say no, is he guilty? I don't know. Is his life ruined for the next 15 years? sounds like he was on the way to ruin before taking this big step.
Are the victims innocent? I say no, are they guilty? of being stupid, yes. They also appeared to be well on the way to ruining their lives - the kid just eased them into it a little earlier than they planned.
Edit: I also haven't looked to see if better video has appeared since the first night. I did not enjoy watching the first ones. -
People he killed had already established themselves as dirt bags and criminals. The kid may too be a dirt bag and a criminal but up until now there was nothing in his history to support that.LebamDawg said:I don't have a truth in any of this. The situations that are occurring across our cities is out of control.
Yes there are people on both sides that will see all these crappy videos differently.
For political, ideological, ass holeyness reasons from both sides.
Everyone on both sides made stupid fucking decision where 2 people ended up dead. Is the kid innocent? I say no, is he guilty? I don't know. Is his life ruined for the next 15 years? sounds like he was on the way to ruin before taking this big step.
Are the victims innocent? I say no, are they guilty? of being stupid, yes. They also appeared to be well on the way to ruining their lives - the kid just eased them into it a little earlier than they planned. -
He also tried to take the kids rifle. That will get you shot!SFGbob said:
The first guy who gets shot is chasing the kid. He then tosses something at the kid. The kid is retreating the entire time prior to him shooting the 1st guy. That is all entirely clear by anyone who honestly looks at the video. The kid isn't chasing anyone.LebamDawg said:
it is just wait and see what happens, if he gets charged with something and the law doesn't support that charge I trust it will be resolved. If its a jury anything can happen to hell with the law and it gets appealed.Houhusky said:
The video(s) pretty clearly speak for themselves on self defense.LebamDawg said:well the other issues that come into play are the fact that he shot two people.
That is what needs to be addressed. Was is justifiable? nothing more or less.
We are trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.
Not a big deal if he had legal possession or not.
Im just pointing out that the widely repeated "state lines" and "minor in possession" stuff is factually wrong.
People are retarded, and, If you can convince someone that a suspect violated a lessor charge its a lot easier to get them on the greater charge.
Catch a husband lying on a tax form and its suddenly a lot easier to convict him of murdering his wife.
If the video speaks clearly no one would ever argue. People see different things in video, just like people hear different things.
The second guy to me was obvious, but the first guy who got shot is not as clear.
The guy who wrote the article sees things some viewers will agree with and some won't -
Nothing is clear. -
LebamDawg said:
I don't have a truth in any of this. The situations that are occurring across our cities is out of control.
Yes there are people on both sides that will see all these crappy videos differently.
For political, ideological, ass holeyness reasons from both sides.
Everyone on both sides made stupid fucking decision where 2 people ended up dead. Is the kid innocent? I say no, is he guilty? I don't know. Is his life ruined for the next 15 years? sounds like he was on the way to ruin before taking this big step.
Are the victims innocent? I say no, are they guilty? of being stupid, yes. They also appeared to be well on the way to ruining their lives - the kid just eased them into it a little earlier than they planned.
Edit: I also haven't looked to see if better video has appeared since the first night. I did not enjoy watching the first ones.
How so? a speeding Violation .. the other Kyle Rittenhouse that had the drug rap sheet was 10+ years older than the one in Kenosha... -
That's what the eyewitness says, you can't see that on the video tape but the guy who eventually gives first aid to the 1st guy who gets shot says that he was trying to grab Rittenhouse's gun.Sledog said:
He also tried to take the kids rifle. That will get you shot!SFGbob said:
The first guy who gets shot is chasing the kid. He then tosses something at the kid. The kid is retreating the entire time prior to him shooting the 1st guy. That is all entirely clear by anyone who honestly looks at the video. The kid isn't chasing anyone.LebamDawg said:
it is just wait and see what happens, if he gets charged with something and the law doesn't support that charge I trust it will be resolved. If its a jury anything can happen to hell with the law and it gets appealed.Houhusky said:
The video(s) pretty clearly speak for themselves on self defense.LebamDawg said:well the other issues that come into play are the fact that he shot two people.
That is what needs to be addressed. Was is justifiable? nothing more or less.
We are trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.
Not a big deal if he had legal possession or not.
Im just pointing out that the widely repeated "state lines" and "minor in possession" stuff is factually wrong.
People are retarded, and, If you can convince someone that a suspect violated a lessor charge its a lot easier to get them on the greater charge.
Catch a husband lying on a tax form and its suddenly a lot easier to convict him of murdering his wife.
If the video speaks clearly no one would ever argue. People see different things in video, just like people hear different things.
The second guy to me was obvious, but the first guy who got shot is not as clear.
The guy who wrote the article sees things some viewers will agree with and some won't -
Nothing is clear. -
What are you even talking about?LebamDawg said:I don't have a truth in any of this. The situations that are occurring across our cities is out of control.
Yes there are people on both sides that will see all these crappy videos differently.
For political, ideological, ass holeyness reasons from both sides.
Everyone on both sides made stupid fucking decision where 2 people ended up dead. Is the kid innocent? I say no, is he guilty? I don't know. Is his life ruined for the next 15 years? sounds like he was on the way to ruin before taking this big step.
Are the victims innocent? I say no, are they guilty? of being stupid, yes. They also appeared to be well on the way to ruining their lives - the kid just eased them into it a little earlier than they planned.
Edit: I also haven't looked to see if better video has appeared since the first night. I did not enjoy watching the first ones. -
Dropped out of high school and was dumb enough to go to Kenosha.YouKnowIt said:LebamDawg said:I don't have a truth in any of this. The situations that are occurring across our cities is out of control.
Yes there are people on both sides that will see all these crappy videos differently.
For political, ideological, ass holeyness reasons from both sides.
Everyone on both sides made stupid fucking decision where 2 people ended up dead. Is the kid innocent? I say no, is he guilty? I don't know. Is his life ruined for the next 15 years? sounds like he was on the way to ruin before taking this big step.
Are the victims innocent? I say no, are they guilty? of being stupid, yes. They also appeared to be well on the way to ruining their lives - the kid just eased them into it a little earlier than they planned.
Edit: I also haven't looked to see if better video has appeared since the first night. I did not enjoy watching the first ones.
How so? a speeding Violation .. the other Kyle Rittenhouse that had the drug rap sheet was 10+ years older than the one in Kenosha...
But with the CoVid is any one still in school? But still dumb enough to get involved in the street crap -
I must score things differently. From my vantage point it was Good Guy 3, Bad Guys 0.LebamDawg said:
Dropped out of high school and was dumb enough to go to Kenosha.YouKnowIt said:LebamDawg said:I don't have a truth in any of this. The situations that are occurring across our cities is out of control.
Yes there are people on both sides that will see all these crappy videos differently.
For political, ideological, ass holeyness reasons from both sides.
Everyone on both sides made stupid fucking decision where 2 people ended up dead. Is the kid innocent? I say no, is he guilty? I don't know. Is his life ruined for the next 15 years? sounds like he was on the way to ruin before taking this big step.
Are the victims innocent? I say no, are they guilty? of being stupid, yes. They also appeared to be well on the way to ruining their lives - the kid just eased them into it a little earlier than they planned.
Edit: I also haven't looked to see if better video has appeared since the first night. I did not enjoy watching the first ones.
How so? a speeding Violation .. the other Kyle Rittenhouse that had the drug rap sheet was 10+ years older than the one in Kenosha...
But with the CoVid is any one still in school? But still dumb enough to get involved in the street crap
I'm a simple man.
