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Final Senate IC report

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,518 Founders Club
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Love how guys like the Dazzler criticized "right-wing wackos" pushing tinfoil hat conspiracy theories while they continue to promote the completely baseless Trump/Russia collusion story and completely ignore the fact that the Dossier has been totally debunked and was most likely Russian disinformation paid for by Hillary and the DNC.

    Collusion with the Russians that they can't prove and have no evidence of is bad, bad, bad. But collusion with the Russians that's an established fact and staring them right in the face is completely ignored.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,518 Founders Club
    We are busy now with an obscure GOP congress candidate in Florida. She is a conspiracy nut!!!
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    We are busy now with an obscure GOP congress candidate in Florida. She is a conspiracy nut!!!

    It’s a good thing she didn’t fight against de-segregating schools because she didn’t want her kids growing in a “racial jungle” with the black kids. That would be terrible!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,335
    The Committee anticipated that it could face executive privilege claims from Obama
    Administration officials who testified about actions they took as part of the National Security
    Council or conversations they had with President Obama about Russian interference. In practice,
    though, Obama Administration officials freely shared their conversations with then-President
    Obama· and each other related to the Russia threat. The. Committee heard testimony about
    Principal's Committees (PCs) and Deputy's Committees (DCs) from Susan Rice, Denis
    McDonough, Michael Daniel, Celeste Wallander, Jeh Johnson, Ben Rhodes, Samantha Power,
    Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, and Lisa Monaco, among others. This testimony provided useful
    insights into the history of interactions between the Obama Administration and the Russian
    government, which informed the Committee's report.






    The Committee did not anticipate, however, the multitude of novel and
    unprecedented potential executive privilege claims from the WHCO on behalf of members of
    President-elect Trump's Transition Team and the Transition itself, for communications before
    Trump took office. The Committee was surprised by these assertions because they were made
    inconsistently and because they have no basis in law. The Committee's experience demonstrated
    the potential for abuse of executive privilege, particularly as it relates, to impeding a
    Congressional inquiry. . . . The argument was
    particularly suspect as applied to an apparent foreign policy operation run by Transition officials
    who can claim no Constitutional authority to be conducting American diplomacy. To date, the
    only court to address the existence of a Transition privilege has rejected it.






    White House intervention significantly hampered and
    prolonged the Committee's investigative effort. Most importantly, some witnesses were directed
    by the White House not to tum over potentially privileged information-so they refused to
    produce materials without first handing them over to the White House for a privilege review, or
    refused to answer questions concerning the Transition without first consulting with the White
    House. As a result, the White House had a chance to review and control the information
    responsive to· Committee requests before the Committee did, even though the Committee was
    seeking information from private citizens who could not themselves assert the privilege, and who
    were free to disregard the White House's directive.






    Although there is no formal requirement for Congress to honor the attorney-client
    privilege, the Committee respected all legitimate and properly-supported invocations ofthe
    privilege during its investigation as a matter of congressional discretion. Proper assertions of the
    privilege did not prove to be obstacles to the Committee's work. However, the Committee
    encountered dubious objections to its requests and questioning based on an undocumented and
    unproven 'joint defense agreement."








    From the documents produced by Cohen, the Committee became concerned that
    multiple witnesses and/or their counsel could have been involved in or aware of Cohen's attempt
    to mislead the Committee. Indeed, at least two witnesses (Donald Trump Jr. and Felix Sater)
    could have known that Cohen's statement falsely represented material facts about negotiations
    over a. deal for a Trump Tower Moscow. Further, Cohen told the Committee that following his
    initial testimony, he received a phone call from Sekulow, who told him that Trump "heard that
    you did great, and don't worry, everything's going to be fine. He loves ya." Cohen also
    testified that after his initial interview, Sekulow mentioned "pardons" or "pre-pardons" for
    Cohen.






    The Committee questioned several witnesses and counsel to identify the nature of
    the JDA. No showing to substantiate its existence was made by any proponent of the privilege.
    All agreed that there was nothing written to document the JDA or any of its key features, such as
    when it began, who was included, and the JDA'.s purpose. Even if the JDA were a verbal
    agreement (valid under some case law), that would not excuse the participants from satisfying
    their obligation to prove its existence.




    And to think how much some of the gals here complain about corruption.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,518 Founders Club
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    Dazzler goes with "the city's insurance company settled with Mike Brown's family" angle in order to make his case. And to think some fool actually pays you money for your legal assistance.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,905 Standard Supporter
    I like, "I pity his clients" although they do have to be fools to actually pay the dazzler for anything.
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    Trump “could have known.” Oh no!! Lock him up. I “could know” Lionel defrauds people in nursing homes. That means he’s guilty.

    @HHusky loves his “may haves” and “could haves” as he treats them as facts.

    Embarrassing all around that any time was spent on that toilet paper report.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    From the documents produced by Cohen, the Committee became concerned that
    multiple witnesses and/or their counsel could have been involved in or aware of Cohen's attempt
    to mislead the Committee. Indeed, at least two witnesses (Donald Trump Jr. and Felix Sater)
    could have known that Cohen's statement falsely represented material facts about negotiations
    over a. deal for a Trump Tower Moscow.


    The crack legal mind of the Dazzler has him this time.