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  • SpoonieLuvSpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,450
    What’s a Grundle?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    What’s a Grundle?

    You know
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,376
    None of Sweden’s near neighbors—Norway, Finland and Denmark—are seeing spikes either. All three locked down and avoided the huge losses of life Sweden suffered.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,512 Founders Club
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,357 Founders Club
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    None of Sweden’s near neighbors—Norway, Finland and Denmark—are seeing spikes either. All three locked down and avoided the huge losses of life Sweden suffered.
    It's almost like you can't read or something. And the source is Newsweek. Not exactly Red State or OAN.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,163
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    None of Sweden’s near neighbors—Norway, Finland and Denmark—are seeing spikes either. All three locked down and avoided the huge losses of life Sweden suffered.
    Sweden - 80,100 cases, 5,739 deaths
    Denmark - 13,789 cases, 615 deaths
    Norway - 9,217 cases, 255 deaths
    Finland - 7,432 cases, 329 deaths

    It's one data point out of many, but it's a useful comp. Nothing can ever be held constant, but these four countries are at least homogenous enough between each other to attempt to draw some conclusions. Sweden had 10-20x the deaths, but frankly the raw numbers seem to be a hell of a trade off for not shutting down your country. How these numbers would scale up to a country like the US, where there are a lot more variables at play, is the million dollar question.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,376
    Scandinavians spend the precious Summer outside and on vacation. LIPO.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member Posts: 13,302
    We talk about this shit over and over. Winter 2021 will be interesting. If Sweden stays in decline and other countries flare up then Sweden won’t seem so stupid. This seems to be the conscious or subconscious playbook until a monumental therapeutic or vaccine shows up.
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,343 Swaye's Wigwam
    I thought we hated countries with free health care?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,512 Founders Club
    HuskyJW said:

    I thought we hated countries with free health care?

    What country has free health care?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
    HuskyJW said:

    I thought we hated countries with free health care?

    We?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,032 Standard Supporter

    Sweden has a population of around 10mil and a death total of 5739. The US is 328mil. if you take Swedens deaths and multiply by 32.8 you get a total of 188K deaths. Even with New York and New Jerseys incompetence (48K combined deaths) the US sits at 154K deaths. Extrapolating Swedens total cases would give us 26mil people infected. If the US doesn't shut down but puts a governor on the disease other countries would have followed suit and the world economy would be in a much better place today than it is. Swedens economy has still shrunk because Europeans are too afraid to visit and everyone is not buying those cool, hand made Swedish leather shoes because they have no income. If not for being an election year I feel the US plan would have been more homogenous. Keep the economy open, keep the children in some form of in person school, protect the elderly and wash your hands instead of Mask up!, Stay Home, Stay Safe and Alone Together. @GreenRiverGatorz you are correct, the variables are far too many to take into account. This is grocery math. Don't twist.

    The state of New York has a population 19.5 million and 32,362 chicom crud deaths. So, twice the population and almost 6 times the death total and it looks like Sweden has herd immunity. But leftards hate the Swedes for staying open and love Cuomo because of his brilliant handling of the chicom pandemic.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,376

    Sweden has a population of around 10mil and a death total of 5739. The US is 328mil. if you take Swedens deaths and multiply by 32.8 you get a total of 188K deaths. Even with New York and New Jerseys incompetence (48K combined deaths) the US sits at 154K deaths. Extrapolating Swedens total cases would give us 26mil people infected. If the US doesn't shut down but puts a governor on the disease other countries would have followed suit and the world economy would be in a much better place today than it is. Swedens economy has still shrunk because Europeans are too afraid to visit and everyone is not buying those cool, hand made Swedish leather shoes because they have no income. If not for being an election year I feel the US plan would have been more homogenous. Keep the economy open, keep the children in some form of in person school, protect the elderly and wash your hands instead of Mask up!, Stay Home, Stay Safe and Alone Together. @GreenRiverGatorz you are correct, the variables are far too many to take into account. This is grocery math. Don't twist.

    The state of New York has a population 19.5 million and 32,362 chicom crud deaths. So, twice the population and almost 6 times the death total and it looks like Sweden has herd immunity. But leftards hate the Swedes for staying open and love Cuomo because of his brilliant handling of the chicom pandemic.
    Sweden is nowhere close to herd immunity.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,485 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    Sweden has a population of around 10mil and a death total of 5739. The US is 328mil. if you take Swedens deaths and multiply by 32.8 you get a total of 188K deaths. Even with New York and New Jerseys incompetence (48K combined deaths) the US sits at 154K deaths. Extrapolating Swedens total cases would give us 26mil people infected. If the US doesn't shut down but puts a governor on the disease other countries would have followed suit and the world economy would be in a much better place today than it is. Swedens economy has still shrunk because Europeans are too afraid to visit and everyone is not buying those cool, hand made Swedish leather shoes because they have no income. If not for being an election year I feel the US plan would have been more homogenous. Keep the economy open, keep the children in some form of in person school, protect the elderly and wash your hands instead of Mask up!, Stay Home, Stay Safe and Alone Together. @GreenRiverGatorz you are correct, the variables are far too many to take into account. This is grocery math. Don't twist.

    The state of New York has a population 19.5 million and 32,362 chicom crud deaths. So, twice the population and almost 6 times the death total and it looks like Sweden has herd immunity. But leftards hate the Swedes for staying open and love Cuomo because of his brilliant handling of the chicom pandemic.
    Sweden is nowhere close to herd immunity.
    You gotta read up on them t-cells son!
    Did you know eugenics was contemporaneously considered science too?
  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972

    HuskyJW said:

    I thought we hated countries with free health care?

    What country has free health care?
    Pretty much every country if you don’t pay into the system. The USA has free healthcare in Medicaid.
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