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2nd Annual Brandon Kaho Commemorative Collegiate Career Impact Forecast - Results

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  • TTJTTJ Posts: 4,508
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    Woof said:

    Recruiter rankings in GPA format
    Note: I screwed up the wording, so I take responsibility for a few of the screwy scores.

    Bhonapha - 1.37 I can see him being pretty happy with this score given the effort. I'd argue maybe he deserves more like a C- given his two recruits, but I understand the hate.
    Adams - 3.65 Had 2 of the top 4 recruits and the guy who finished 2nd in underrated. Great score, dragged down by 2 Ds.
    Huff - 3.80 Magna cum laude for Huff with this class.
    Malloe - 1.33 Almost beat Bonerpopper and didn't recruit anyone. I guess he had an assist on Smalls...
    Kwiatkowski - 2.71 Solid score for Coach K, but I would argue it should be higher because he got Smalls. Could be low because of my wording.
    Gregory - 0.43 End his tenure already
    Harris - 1.12 On academic probation, and it doesn't look good...
    Lake - 2.45 Much like the rest of the Lake tenure so far

    The doogliest grader was @CallMeBigErn with an average score of 3.96 and the biggest negadawg was @ttj with an average of 2.39. Highest correlation with overall results was @Sarkingham and the lowest correlation was @79smoothdawg

    Lastly, 53% believe JTT will sign with UW and 65% believe that Egbuka will sign with UW.

    I hope you enjoyed this year's edition. Happy to provide additional information if you want it.

    Free pub!
    dnc
  • DoogWhispererDoogWhisperer Posts: 799
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    Lots of dooging in this joint
    CallMeBigErnchuck
  • Woof said:

    Let the critiquing begin!

    First!
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Posts: 11,070
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    Tequilla said:

    I think people are really sleeping on Sunday ... I think Adams is going to be a massive bust

    I have a hard time with Adams because he didn’t get many carries at EC. Production isn’t everything and sometimes you have to dig deeper, but an athlete that is supposedly as good as he is should be putting up major production at EC.

    The positives with Adams are that he has good size, can catch the call, and his bloodlines. The lack of production makes me hesitant. About the only good explanation would be if Adams Sr insisted that his son was not a featured back because he didn’t want him taking a ton of hits before reaching college. That’s probably doogish tho.

    If he ran for 1,500 yards and 20 TD’s, I could see preferring him over Sunday. Sunday dominated tho and while it doesn’t always translate, dominating in high school is normally the precursor for dominating in college. Same for college to the pros. I say it all the time and have always fought back against the opinion that high school doesn’t matter.

    I would say it’s especially true at QB and RB. The legit college prospects at those positions are getting the ball and they should be doing good things. A legitimate college ILB should have a lot of tackles in high school ball. WR is somewhat similar, but a run based offense or a bad QB can hamper those numbers. On the other side, a WR that plays for a team that throws it 50 times per game is going to put up huge numbers and that is where production can be questioned.
    Yeah, a common mantra from a few years ago was "stats in high school don't mean shit." That certainly is true from one angle as there are many kids who tear it up in high school that just don't have the body or speed to ever be a D1 athlete. There's also varying levels of competition.

    With last years class and particularly the 2021 class, however, we have to look at it from the other angle of kids who weren't impressive in high school but are seen as college prospects based on their size, speed, etc. From the 2020 class, you have James Smith and Sam Adams who were essentially high-school bench-warmers at the positions they are slotted to play in college. In both cases, my guess is they were early bloomers who were expected to continue to develop but hit a wall and other guys on their high school teams passed them up.

    For next year, its slightly different as you have guys who have barely played any high school football in Heims, Wyrsch, and Finau but are projected to contribute in college based on size and speed.

    I don't have a ton of hope for Smith and Adams (at RB) just because I don't think a kid who struggles to see the field in high school is going to suddenly take the next step in college. With the 2021 guys, I think a few could emerge but it won't be for a few years.
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Posts: 1,899
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    Woof said:

    Baseman said:

    Woof said:

    Recruiter rankings in GPA format
    Note: I screwed up the wording, so I take responsibility for a few of the screwy scores.

    Bhonapha - 1.37 I can see him being pretty happy with this score given the effort. I'd argue maybe he deserves more like a C- given his two recruits, but I understand the hate.
    Adams - 3.65 Had 2 of the top 4 recruits and the guy who finished 2nd in underrated. Great score, dragged down by 2 Ds.
    Huff - 3.80 Magna cum laude for Huff with this class.
    Malloe - 1.33 Almost beat Bonerpopper and didn't recruit anyone. I guess he had an assist on Smalls...
    Kwiatkowski - 2.71 Solid score for Coach K, but I would argue it should be higher because he got Smalls. Could be low because of my wording.
    Gregory - 0.43 End his tenure already
    Harris - 1.12 On academic probation, and it doesn't look good...
    Lake - 2.45 Much like the rest of the Lake tenure so far

    The doogliest grader was @CallMeBigErn with an average score of 3.96 and the biggest negadawg was @ttj with an average of 2.39. Highest correlation with overall results was @Sarkingham and the lowest correlation was @79smoothdawg

    Lastly, 53% believe JTT will sign with UW and 65% believe that Egbuka will sign with UW.

    I hope you enjoyed this year's edition. Happy to provide additional information if you want it.

    How about the individual poster rating for each player?
    Let the critiquing begin!




    I think I over valued Hatchett (5) and Peacock (4) by 1 point each. Regardless, I'm tied for 3rd highest grade average. I think that makes me a Doog.
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  • HouhuskyHouhusky Posts: 4,075
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    Does someone have a link to the last two survey results so we can reflect on how dumb other posters were in their predictions for the last two years?
    dirtysouwfdawgdnc
  • chuckchuck Posts: 4,383
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    Houhusky said:

    Does someone have a link to the last two survey results so we can reflect on how dumb other posters were in their predictions for the last two years?

    I only want to know how dumb I am and whether it is increasing or flat lined.
    Houhuskydnc
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Posts: 4,171
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    If Adams moves to safety I change my vote to a 4.
  • Hmm, lower scores, but then this survey is much later in the year than '19.

    If the kids have shown up then this checks out - that's when it's ok for us to start hating them.
    As is tradition.
    dirtysouwfdawg
  • chuckchuck Posts: 4,383
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    Lots of dooging in this joint

    Care to specify? Who was overrated and why?

    I won't hold my breath.
    RaceBannonCallMeBigErndnc
  • If Adams moves to safety I change my vote to a 4.

    i gave my 4* vote for Adams based on the athletic ability that I think shows up somewhere on the field.. I'm guessing safety as well.
    HoustonHuskydnc
  • TequillaTequilla Posts: 16,254
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    Tequilla said:

    I think people are really sleeping on Sunday ... I think Adams is going to be a massive bust

    I have a hard time with Adams because he didn’t get many carries at EC. Production isn’t everything and sometimes you have to dig deeper, but an athlete that is supposedly as good as he is should be putting up major production at EC.

    The positives with Adams are that he has good size, can catch the call, and his bloodlines. The lack of production makes me hesitant. About the only good explanation would be if Adams Sr insisted that his son was not a featured back because he didn’t want him taking a ton of hits before reaching college. That’s probably doogish tho.

    If he ran for 1,500 yards and 20 TD’s, I could see preferring him over Sunday. Sunday dominated tho and while it doesn’t always translate, dominating in high school is normally the precursor for dominating in college. Same for college to the pros. I say it all the time and have always fought back against the opinion that high school doesn’t matter.

    I would say it’s especially true at QB and RB. The legit college prospects at those positions are getting the ball and they should be doing good things. A legitimate college ILB should have a lot of tackles in high school ball. WR is somewhat similar, but a run based offense or a bad QB can hamper those numbers. On the other side, a WR that plays for a team that throws it 50 times per game is going to put up huge numbers and that is where production can be questioned.
    I'm not as big on you about high school production but there is a part of it where it does matter. You can be as toolsy as you want to be but it has to translate to production at some point. It's something you see in the NFL Draft all the time about guys that are great underwear Olympic performers but don't have a ton of production. That's where watching games has value as it gives the context.

    My thing with Adams is that he strikes me as someone that can be elite defensively. He wants to be a RB because that's where the name glory is. But he doesn't strike me as someone that is going to hold up well to the constant physical pounding (that's why I'm assuming he didn't run a ton in HS as he always seemed to have nagging injuries).

    With QBs, something I want to see how a young QB is is does he have some moxie to him ... what kind of leadership instincts are in place? Do his teammates seem to rally around him?
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 3,065
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    Kids wanting to play RB makes no sense to me. Shorter career than playing DB and you get paid less.
    dnc
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