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Sledog
Sledog Member Posts: 37,908 Standard Supporter
Destroying our nation! Deport them all! 12-14 million my ass! 22 mill minimum and as many as 40.

Trump is correct in excluding them from the census.

https://bongino.com/report-california-has-six-extra-representatives-because-illegals-are-counted-in-census/

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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    So how does the administration actually filter out census responses from illegal aliens? I read the White House press release, and surprise, there doesn't seem to be any detail on how to achieve this.

    Sounds like Trump is wheeling the ol virtue signal back onto the front lawn to secure the sought-after @Sledog vote.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,908 Standard Supporter
    I'd vote for a rock instead of Biden. It has more cognitive ability than Joe.

    I see you like skewing representation. But you would. The ends justify the means, right comrade?
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Sledog said:

    I'd vote for a rock instead of Biden. It has more cognitive ability than Joe.

    I see you like skewing representation. But you would. The ends justify the means, right comrade?

    Huh? I'm just here asking for details on how Trump plans to achieve this awesome new initiative of his. That you're unable to answer doesn't come as a complete surprise to me.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,853
    edited July 2020
    Sledog said:

    Destroying our nation! Deport them all! 12-14 million my ass! 22 mill minimum and as many as 40.

    Trump is correct in excluding them from the census.

    https://bongino.com/report-california-has-six-extra-representatives-because-illegals-are-counted-in-census/

    You know how this will go though, right? There will be the EO, it will get challenged, a judge will deem it unconstitutional since I'm fairly certain the CFR just says "people" and not "citizens," the judge will be a secret never-Trumper political activist, it'll be appealed, etc etc.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,669 Standard Supporter
    The language is ambiguous.

    "The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting
    of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in
    such Manner as they shall by Law direct."


    The "Law" could certainly entail counting citizens. It makes no sense under the due process clause to allow illegals to determine the makeup of the US Congress. But, then the Supreme Court often does not make sense. Like refusing Trump's reversal of barry's executive order because John Roberts can't read.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    I mean the 3/5 compromise made it clear from the beginning you don't have to be a citizen to be counted. The question would be what, if anything, was done to specifically address that in the 13th, 14th or 15th amendments. I'm guessing it's unadressed.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,669 Standard Supporter
    It did make it clear as to who got counted and for how much. In 1789, not a lot of illegals in the US. To me, it's ambiguous. You had to be a citizen to serve in Congress or be President. I would default to citizenship if that was the "Law".
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,908 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    I'd vote for a rock instead of Biden. It has more cognitive ability than Joe.

    I see you like skewing representation. But you would. The ends justify the means, right comrade?

    Huh? I'm just here asking for details on how Trump plans to achieve this awesome new initiative of his. That you're unable to answer doesn't come as a complete surprise to me.
    Gosh since their aren't any that I know of might be why. Trump hasn't called this week.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    I'd vote for a rock instead of Biden. It has more cognitive ability than Joe.

    I see you like skewing representation. But you would. The ends justify the means, right comrade?

    Huh? I'm just here asking for details on how Trump plans to achieve this awesome new initiative of his. That you're unable to answer doesn't come as a complete surprise to me.
    Gosh since their aren't any that I know of might be why. Trump hasn't called this week.
    Bingo
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,218 Founders Club
    It seems logical that a census that is used for representation would be of citizens which is why I agree that numerous Federal Courts would find that it isn't

    Let's just count it at 7 billion and open the gates
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    No human is illegal