What Americans are finally learning about freedom

DerekJohnson

https://theweek.com/articles/925896/what-americans-are-finally-learning-about-freedom

RoadTrip

I don't want to live anywhere near this ideologue's utopia.

Swaye

The government is the only way anyone can be free. Proved he was a moron in the first paragraph. Good job. Good effort.

HHusky

the Republican Party has been drinking the "government equals tyranny" turpentine for so long it is now completely unable to think or act, and the Democrats still reflexively hesitate to deploy state power. As a result, most of that sacrifice was squandered, over 140,000 people and counting are dead, and America is now a plague land, its disease-ridden citizens shunned around the world.

So the fraudulent American sense of freedom in practice shows a twofold character: On the one hand, there is a staggering sense of entitlement on the far right, which screams itself hoarse over whatever government regulation it happens to disagree with — rarely howling about actual violations of civil liberties, like police lawlessness or the NSA dragnet surveillance program, but instead typically things that would help the poor or the sick. On the other hand, there is an incredible docility among most of the rest of the population, which expects almost nothing from government, and generally gets exactly that. As Alex Pareene writes at The New Republic, liberal New Yorkers are largely happy and contented with the performance of Governor Andrew Cuomo, who so horrendously botched the response to the coronavirus outbreak that 32,000 of his constituents are dead. He faces no groundswell of infuriated demands for accountability, and thus expresses no shame about his monumental failure.

There's actually something for everyone here. But just to remind you:

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men . . ."

RaceBannon

What a bunch of garbage

whatshouldicareabout

We covered this 51 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyaUtnWr8Gw

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

What a bunch of garbage

Swaye said:

The government is the only way anyone can be free. Proved he was a moron in the first paragraph. Good job. Good effort.

Hobbes looks more prescient than Locke these days.

Hamilton>Jefferson too

GrundleStiltzkin

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

What a bunch of garbage

Swaye said:

The government is the only way anyone can be free. Proved he was a moron in the first paragraph. Good job. Good effort.

Hobbes looks more prescient than Locke these days.

Hamilton>Jefferson too

The Leviathan doesn’t scare you or me, only excess baggage charges.

Houhusky

Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Baseman

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss

Sledog

HHusky said:

the Republican Party has been drinking the "government equals tyranny" turpentine for so long it is now completely unable to think or act, and the Democrats still reflexively hesitate to deploy state power. As a result, most of that sacrifice was squandered, over 140,000 people and counting are dead, and America is now a plague land, its disease-ridden citizens shunned around the world.

So the fraudulent American sense of freedom in practice shows a twofold character: On the one hand, there is a staggering sense of entitlement on the far right, which screams itself hoarse over whatever government regulation it happens to disagree with — rarely howling about actual violations of civil liberties, like police lawlessness or the NSA dragnet surveillance program, but instead typically things that would help the poor or the sick. On the other hand, there is an incredible docility among most of the rest of the population, which expects almost nothing from government, and generally gets exactly that. As Alex Pareene writes at The New Republic, liberal New Yorkers are largely happy and contented with the performance of Governor Andrew Cuomo, who so horrendously botched the response to the coronavirus outbreak that 32,000 of his constituents are dead. He faces no groundswell of infuriated demands for accountability, and thus expresses no shame about his monumental failure.

There's actually something for everyone here. But just to remind you:

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men . . ."

Democrat governors make Hitler look better. What a crock of shit. But then HH posted it.

UW_Doog_Bot

Yeah, Nevermind that the most ruthless authoritarian regime since the Nazis or the Soviets is probably counting its dead in the millions, freedom is the problem. Jfc.